SkyRC Toro TS 120A

[V6Jim]

Just bought one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330976143517?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

SkyRC Toro TS 120A. From what I can gather it's a re-badged Hobbywing V3.1. Should do the job!

Jimmy

[tdi250]

I've been looking at one of these too. how have you found it?

[Sturdy]

I'm sure these are the same, but just rebranded from speed passion/hobbywing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyrannosaurus-120A-Sensored-Brushless-BEC-ESC-for-1-10-1-8-Car-Competition-/390637919799?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item5af3d59e37

[V6Jim]

I've been looking at one of these too. how have you found it?

It's a smashing looking wee thing. Haven't actually run it yet, but quality looks excellent.

The Tyranosaurus one looks similar. Nearly all the speedos in the world seem to be made by Hobbywing.

Which is good.

Jimmy

[leelar]

have you tested this speedo yet
i have just ordered one as a spear :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

I've got the Leopard 9t combo from SkyRC in my truck and can't fault it. Identical to the etronix photon, but a fraction of the price.

[tdi250]

So I've bought a Toro TS120 now also and have put it in my DEX410v3 with a 6.5 motor.

Only done some test runs on the road outside my house so far but it's bloomin fast and didn't get warm.

Not got a programming box yet but its on its way, so I'll have a play with the settings and I'm running it at Kiddy this Sunday so I'll know more after the weekend.

Its a nice looking and well made piece of kit though. The built in power button gives it a high end quality feel too.

[tdi250]

Here she is!

[Lonestar]

Wes, have you tried connecting it to a genuine hobbywing box?

Thanks
Paul

[tdi250]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=330975489391

Paul,

I haven't tried a hobbywing box.

I've got one of these on the way, does it look similar to ahobbywing box?

[tdi250]

I have to say it looks identical to a hobbywing v3.1. All the connections, the power button and everything is in the same place as the hobbywing.

I'll try and find out about the firmware and post back on here.

[tdi250]

So I ran this ESCin anger today for the first time.

I was at Kidderminster running my dex410v3 ( also for the first time), it was a very warm day in the end, I ran a 6.5 turn motor all day which was getting pretty damn warm by the end if a race but the SKYRC toro ts 120 did not miss a beat. Perfect all day! I must say I'm thinking about buying another one for my 2wd.

Considering i won mine in an ebay auction, brand new for 32 quid its the bargain of the year.

[dadtc3]

Does anyone know whether the genuine hobbywing box works on this ??

[OneKiwi]

How are people getting on with them?
easy to program?

Why not just get the original program box and save the hassles

[Swell]

My mate runs one had it 6 month no bother never change any setting as he has no programing box....

By the time you buy a prog box and esc in the uk you might aswell buy a vampire (with real customer support and warranty)

[leelar]

I got one from eBay for £45 for the speedo and £6 for the
Box off the same UK seller

[madmax]

I've been using one for the past 2 months and think it is an excellent esc

[V6Jim]

Does anyone know whether the genuine hobbywing box works on this ??

These are made by Sky RC and NOT Hobbywing. The Hobbywing Programming box is reported not to work. Having said that it's own Programming Box works fine and I have to say it knocks spots off my old Hobbywing ESC.

The most noticeable difference is the power of the brakes. I have them set at 100% and when you slap the stick back (or the equivalent bit on a steering wheel transmitter) the Toro nearly locks all its wheels solid. Bang! You've stopped!

Acceleration is impressive too. I'm running a 6.5t HPI Pro Flux and am able to run it with a 3 tooth smaller pinion - and still get the same top speed!

Clever little blue box...

Jimmy

[Candyman]

By the time you buy a prog box and esc in the uk you might aswell buy a vampire (with real customer support and warranty)

??? Vampire ESC is around £120, the toro is £45.

[Swell]

£65 uk plus prog box £15ish total £80

leaves £40 for qulity plus backup warranty easy as hell to program smooth and fast

I have heard reports of tax on imports....

If you cant afford a the price of one with warranty you cant afford
to be without a warranty (imho)

[mihael]

hi there
is it a cheap making speedy or high quality speedo?
i am thinking about getting a lrp flow works team or this toro

mike

[Darrin70]

I run 4 of these, the new v1.05 software really improves the throttle and breaking... For the new price of $79.90 with a smart program box and free shipping from RCmart you can't go wrong!!

[mihael]

Is this esc for competition or just for fun?

[Darrin70]

Is this esc for competition or just for fun?I race with these at a pro level.. Very competitive!!

[vgeorge]

Is this a copy of Hobbywing V3?You know if the program card from Hobbywing works also with this esc?

[croller]

Hi,
I run 1 of these competitevely in the UK have to say it seems extremely good value my car is lightning quick, TM2 6.5 geared high indoors and had no trouble got mine from eBay brand new £75 with programme card, bit dubious at first but now I've learnt the speedo they seem awesome.

Gavin

[Darrin70]

Hi,
I run 1 of these competitevely in the UK have to say it seems extremely good value my car is lightning quick, TM2 6.5 geared high indoors and had no trouble got mine from eBay brand new £75 with programme card, bit dubious at first but now I've learnt the speedo they seem awesome.

GavinGavin, did you upgrade the software v1.05?

[leelar]

Hi,
I run 1 of these competitevely in the UK have to say it seems extremely good value my car is lightning quick, TM2 6.5 geared high indoors and had no trouble got mine from eBay brand new £75 with programme card, bit dubious at first but now I've learnt the speedo they seem awesome.

Gavin

How have you set it up as I have just got one for my tm2 with a hpi 6.5 and it seems a bit slower than when I had my hobbywing in

[croller]

Gavin, did you upgrade the software v1.05?

Hi Darrin,
No I haven't wouldn't no how to, if I'm honest I feel the brakes are a little weak I am going to play about with the brakes they are on 100% but I need to find out what 1st and 2nd stage brakes are, it's my first speedo using a programme board I'm a LRP man as a rule

[croller]

How have you set it up as I have just got one for my tm2 with a hpi 6.5 and it seems a bit slower than when I had my hobbywing in

Hi Lee,
I am geared 24/85 on a cheap turnigy 6.5 and turnigy 4300 shorty cells, it's standard settings as per modified paperwork in the box, boost at 10 and turbo at 15 it's whatever it said plus a bit on turbo for good measure, but I set the turbo on rpm only and brought the rpm down to turn it into a animal , it was the fastest car there by a mile, I was struggling to hold onto it a bit and I'm no slouch!

[leelar]

Thanks I have not had a chance to play with the settings yet but that sounds a good place to start :thumbsup:

[leelar]

has any one updated the software to v1.07rar yet or no whats the difference is :confused:

[minty]

Hows everyone getting on with these speedos? Good performance and reliable? None blown up or randomly failed on anyone?

[DynaMight]

I havent got much to compare mine with except the 210 RTR speedo but its been perfect so far, been to 2 meetings and not had any issues. Software works well, although not perfectly catered for us English chaps but good enough. Program box does a good job too, plus can test servos/motors/battery voltages etc. Thinking of getting the bluetooth adaptor too, since its only £13 delivered.

I'm very happy, hopefully it stays that way :woot:

[leelar]

I am very happy with mine and have just got the Bluetooth module which works perfectly with my nexux7 for setting the speedo up but will not update the software as the app will shut down

[minty]

I havent got much to compare mine with except the 210 RTR speedo but its been perfect so far, been to 2 meetings and not had any issues. Software works well, although not perfectly catered for us English chaps but good enough. Program box does a good job too, plus can test servos/motors/battery voltages etc. Thinking of getting the bluetooth adaptor too, since its only £13 delivered.

I'm very happy, hopefully it stays that way :woot:

I am very happy with mine and have just got the Bluetooth module which works perfectly with my nexux7 for setting the speedo up but will not update the software as the app will shut down

This sounds positive as i have got one arriving soon with a programming card. I think you may be able to update the software/firmware using the program box as well. (instead of using the skylink thing or the bluetooth module)

[DynaMight]

This sounds positive as i have got one arriving soon with a programming card. I think you may be able to update the software/firmware using the program box as well. (instead of using the skylink thing or the bluetooth module)

Yeah you can use the program box to connect the ESC by USB to a PC, but I have found it a little temperamental, sometimes the software doesnt pick it up. Once it does, it works fine but just takes some playing. The Skylink works great so I tend to use that if I'm plugging the ESC into the PC.

Also the Skylink uses a Mini USB and comes with a cable, but the Program Box uses MicroUSB (same cable as most Android/Windows Smart phones) but I dont think you get a cable in the box.

One annoying thing about the Program Box is the battery voltage part, you have the pins on the side for your balance port, I just assumed you could plug the balance plug straight into it but it doesnt fit, so I had to make a cable using a 3 pin Fatuba plug and a female part of a balance port extension cable.

[Dazzle]

Is there any reason why the 150a version for 1/8 scale couldnt be used in a 1/10 buggy? Only reason I ask, is ive been looking at these for a while now for my tm2 and the 150a version is slightly cheaper on ebay than the 120a version. It will be for running a lrp x12 oct wind 6.5t motor if that makes any difference.
Thanks Darren

[Danosborne6661]

Has anyone bought the bluetooth module and got the iPhone app so you can use the iPhone as your program card? Would be interested if you can leave the bluetooth module in the car permanently so you can change settings wirelessly on the go!

[minty]

How does the built in Bluetooth work on these ESC's? Do you have to turn it on or is it always on? Has anyone tried changing all the settings on their ESC wirelessly using the iPhone ap which is availble? No need for a program card then!

Its not got built in bluetooth, you need a bluetooth module that plugs in where the program card will plug in

[Danosborne6661]

Sorry just ammended my post after seeing that's the case! Do you know if you can leave it connected in your car?

[minty]

Sorry just ammended my post after seeing that's the case! Do you know if you can leave it connected in your car?

I would have thought you could leave it connected as long as its secured in the car properly, a little unsure though

[Danosborne6661]

Interesting! with the bluetooth module you could change things on your iPhone pretty easily while still stood on the rostrum! Would be interesting to know if that's possible.

[minty]

Although not in english this video shows someone using the bluetooth adapter. The adapter looks bigger than i thought it would be. Also i dont think its as simple as having the bluetooth on all the time and making changes on the fly, you may have to press something on the Bluetooth module first

[leelar]

I have the Bluetooth module in my tm2 it make's setting the speedo up a lot easier than the program box and it connects quickly but when you are finished you have to tudrn the speedo off as mine stays in set up mode but still find it a great bit of kit

[vrooom]

Does this ESC get hot without fan on 6.5t or 7.5t in 2wd buggy? Im running very limited space in my buggy.

this esc seem decent for money.

[neallewis]

ran mine today for first time in my 2wd, 7.5 tekin gen2. used fan first time out, ESC came off cool, so I removed it for later heats. heatsink was coming off warm to touch, but able to hold finger on it with ease. not hot at all. stock settings nothing fancy. I must say it felt very smooth and good to drive. very happy with it. I may get another for my new 4wd.

[Darrin70]

Just a note guys.... If you happen to crash during a race and break you car and the marshall doesn't shut it off, or if you don't want to remove the body for the switch you can from your radio... Hold the brakes for more then 3 seconds.. :) Give it a try

[Swell]

Thats cool (if your aware of the feature)

[Danosborne6661]

Just a note guys.... If you happen to crash during a race and break you car and the marshall doesn't shut it off, or if you don't want to remove the body for the switch you can from your radio... Hold the brakes for more then 3 seconds.. :) Give it a try

Do you know if you can turn it back on the same way?

[minty]

Do you know if you can turn it back on the same way?

Nope you cant, it can only be switched on using the power button on the speedo.

[Darrin70]

This is a great esc, and it is only getting better with software updates etc.. Other then a plastic case, in my books this speedo is as good as any over priced top brand out there... I even bought HobbyKing's Turnigy TrackStar GenII 120ampesc which is the same esc minus color and heatsink.. Program box and software is the same, also has that cool shut off feature..

[Hairy Spider]

Does anyone know if these will take hobbywing firmware?

[safk]

[QUOTE=DynaMight;818196]Yeah you can use the program box to connect the ESC by USB to a PC, but I have found it a little temperamental, sometimes the software doesnt pick it up. Once it does, it works fine but just takes some playing. The Skylink works great so I tend to use that if I'm plugging the ESC into the PC.

Do you need to have it connected to a LiPo too? The diagram in the program box doesn't show it connected to a battery but the diagram in the esc instructions does. :bored:
I have tried plugging into my PC without a battery connected and the switch on the esc flashes green but nothing appears on the display of the programme box.

[Northy]

Can you use a HW program box?

G

[DynaMight]

[I]
Do you need to have it connected to a LiPo too? The diagram in the program box doesn't show it connected to a battery but the diagram in the esc instructions does. :bored:
I have tried plugging into my PC without a battery connected and the switch on the esc flashes green but nothing appears on the display of the programme box.

I couldnt get mine to work properly without a LiPo plugged in, like you said it does light up but thats as far as I got.

[safk]

Think it will have to go back as sadly not enough room in my DEX210 for the ESC and the array of caps

[neallewis]

Think it will have to go back as sadly not enough room in my DEX210 for the ESC and the array of caps

Use longer wires to locate the caps where to can fit them. Or use the hobbywing two cap array.

[neallewis]

double post

[safk]

Use longer wires to locate the caps where to can fit them. Or use the hobbywing two cap array.
The wires would end up being about 200mm long would that be OK?
Would you have the link to the correct hobbywing item or is there only one type ? If that's the case can I just re-use the two cap array from my speed passion citrix stock ESC?
I apologise if these are dumb questions but you may have guessed that electronics are not my specialist subject.

[V6Jim]

Does anyone know if these will take hobbywing firmware?

Nope. This speedo is not compatible with HW firmware of program boxes. It is made by SkyRC in their own factory.

It's a lovely wee unit and well made. I ran mine in very heavy going outdoors a couple of months ago. The car was covered in mud and the driveshafts tangled in cut grass. What a mess! Nearly everybody else's cars were overheating and cutting out. The wee Toro just kept going. Tough wee blighter!

Jimmy

[DynaMight]

Think it will have to go back as sadly not enough room in my DEX210 for the ESC and the array of caps

It fits fine in my DEX210:

http://i.imgur.com/IXsBsTa.jpg?1

[OneKiwi]

You can have the esc on one side the caps on the other and run the wires where you run the RX wires under the lipos.
That does mean you will have to solder them on the esc again

In that pic I would have probably had the esc on the other side with the wire lip pointing in towards the lipo. Or solder the motor wires at 90°

[adon30]

You can run without a power cap. [just opened a can of worms!].
I run my HW type speedos without on a 7.5T. However I run really low punch and boost and have the fan fitted. If its 4wd I definitely run with as the motor is usually a 6.5t as well.

Interested in these Toro esc's though. Someone mentioned they may also be the same as the turnigy trackstar gen II. Is that the case?
Can someone let me know if you can reverse the motor direction on one of these? (Important for one of my project cars)
Also do they come with the Bluetooth link or is it an optional extra. I saw the units for around £60-70 in the uk.

[brooksy]

I've just ordered the skyrc cheetah 4000kv 8.5t 60a combo and it comes with program box for £61. A friend of mine ran his k1 at Worksop with this gear in and it went perfect all day. Not getting hot at all.

[safk]

It fits fine in my DEX210:

http://i.imgur.com/IXsBsTa.jpg?1

My unit came with a 4 cap array making it twice as long as yours & hence wont fit where you have fitted yours.
I think I'll remove all the electrics & look at putting it on the other side so that the switch is easily accesible although the motor wires may then interfere with the rear body mounting.

[neallewis]

My unit came with a 4 cap array making it twice as long as yours & hence wont fit where you have fitted yours.
I think I'll remove all the electrics & look at putting it on the other side so that the switch is easily accesible although the motor wires may then interfere with the rear body mounting.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=827730&postcount=58

Also, the 4 cap array will go in the triangle shaped bit in front of where you have the esc. you just may need longer wires.

[neallewis]

[QUOTE=adon30;827771
Can someone let me know if you can reverse the motor direction on one of these? (Important for one of my project cars)
Also do they come with the Bluetooth link or is it an optional extra. I saw the units for around £60-70 in the uk.[/QUOTE]

yes i think you can reverse the direction with the program box or in pc software. no the £65-£75 ones from ebay do not come with the bluetooth module, only the pc usb interface or usb program card.

[DynaMight]

My unit came with a 4 cap array making it twice as long as yours & hence wont fit where you have fitted yours.
I think I'll remove all the electrics & look at putting it on the other side so that the switch is easily accesible although the motor wires may then interfere with the rear body mounting.

Oh right, didnt realise there were different ones. You can also put the caps across the mid motor brace, assuming theres clearance with the shell, or even on top of the battery holder.

[OneKiwi]

Have a look here at some of these installs to get a good idea.
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/durango/setupdex210/DEX210_ElectronicsSetup/

The PT can always be placed on the servo

[safk]

Thanks OneKiwi,
I did consider a couple of these solutions but at the time was unsure about putting longer wires on the array which I now gather is fine to do.
I don't really want to return it as I think the seller has messed up his listing & I managed to buy the ESC & program box for the princely sum of £55 delivered which I hope will prove to be a bit of a bargain once I manage to cram the puppy in the car.

[Northy]

So what is this a copy of/inspired by? :confused:

G

[minty]

[QUOTE=DynaMight;818196]Yeah you can use the program box to connect the ESC by USB to a PC, but I have found it a little temperamental, sometimes the software doesnt pick it up. Once it does, it works fine but just takes some playing. The Skylink works great so I tend to use that if I'm plugging the ESC into the PC.

Do you need to have it connected to a LiPo too? The diagram in the program box doesn't show it connected to a battery but the diagram in the esc instructions does. :bored:
I have tried plugging into my PC without a battery connected and the switch on the esc flashes green but nothing appears on the display of the programme box.

i connected my speedo to my pc using the program box . The speedo plugs into the box using the little servo extension wire and then a micro usb from the program box to the pc. I Didnt have to have a lipo connected. The firmware is updated using the skyrc software found on this page on the software tab.

http://www.skyrc.com/index.php?route...product_id=171

when i loaded it up it was in chinese but it auto detected the speedo being connected to the computer and a pop up box came up (also in chinese). I clicked the box on the left and it started auto updating (blue bar across the bottom moves from the left to the right)

The on off button will flash v fast when its updating and then it also automatically updated the program card too to v1.07, the speedo is updated to v1.05 which apparently has better throttle response and brakes. On the software when it has finished there are some tabs along the top and if you click on the one on the furthest right it should go to a screen that tells you what firmware is on your speedo and program box. (you can also update the speedo and box from this page.)

[neallewis]

So what is this a copy of/inspired by? :confused:

G

hobbywing xerun 120A v3.1. same but without the full alloy case. looks to be similar to equivalent speed passion reventon pro also.

[Danosborne6661]

But it isn't a Hobbywing at the same time... the program card won't work and neither will the v3.1 software. The ESC is it's own.... and very good might I add :thumbsup:

[safk]

I connect the program box to the pc via a USB cable (admittedly a Nokia phone one not that I think that should make ant difference?) & the display very faintly displays "USB connected to PC!" when I then connect the box to the ESC with the extra cable having ensured that the -,+ & S are connected like to like the power buttn flashes red a couple of times then green rapidly for maybe 1 second before reverting to green flashing every couple of seconds. However as soon as I connect the ESC the display on the box goes blank.

[minty]

I connect the program box to the pc via a USB cable (admittedly a Nokia phone one not that I think that should make ant difference?) & the display very faintly displays "USB connected to PC!" when I then connect the box to the ESC with the extra cable having ensured that the -,+ & S are connected like to like the power buttn flashes red a couple of times then green rapidly for maybe 1 second before reverting to green flashing every couple of seconds. However as soon as I connect the ESC the display on the box goes blank.

Maybe try a different usb cable just to rule that out. Also connect everything up but then connect the usb to the PC last and then switch the esc on i think. Have you got the software loaded up as well?

[cigbunt]

Good place to put a cap is to cable tie it to the motor wires so it sits in the air underneath

[safk]

Have you got the software loaded up as well?

That is a blooming good question, I have downloaded it but I can't open it as my PC keeps asking which programme to use to open it. However the first time I connected I did get a pop up telling me that the software for my new USB device was successfully installed.
It does not appear as a device in the my computer screen.

[safk]

I think that maybe the software link is missing as now I look further in to it the only software item shown is:
SkyRC UsbV.1.07.rar
which I think may be for the programme box, it mentions on their site in the news section:
"Dear Customers,
TS 120A ESC latest software [ V1.05] is updated on our web page"
But when you follow the link it just takes you to the page that contains the .rar file.

[minty]

That is a blooming good question, I have downloaded it but I can't open it as my PC keeps asking which programme to use to open it. However the first time I connected I did get a pop up telling me that the software for my new USB device was successfully installed.
It does not appear as a device in the my computer screen.

Mine didnt show up as a device either i think. The software is downloaded as a .rar file so you will need to use winzip or something similar to unzip it and run the software :thumbsup:

[Danosborne6661]

Yea by the sounds of it you haven't got the software installed, the software is in that zipped up .rar file :p

Download WinRAR for free, open .zip and then you'll be able to install the contents

[DynaMight]

it also automatically updated the program card too to v1.07, the speedo is updated to v1.05 which apparently has better throttle response and brakes.

Interesting. My program card has a latest software version of 1.02 apparently. Whats your hardware version? Mines 1.00.



Also as for running the SkyRC Skylink software, also make sure you run as Administrator (right click) if you're running Windows Vista/Win7/Win8 and above, else it wont work.

[minty]

Interesting. My program card has a latest software version of 1.02 apparently. Whats your hardware version? Mines 1.00.



Also as for running the SkyRC Skylink software, also make sure you run as Administrator (right click) if you're running Windows Vista/Win7/Win8 and above, else it wont work.


Using the software from the skyrc site my program card updated to 1.07 and the speedo 1.05

[neallewis]

Can someone let me know if you can reverse the motor direction on one of these? (Important for one of my project cars)


yes you can set motor direction.

[safk]

Yea by the sounds of it you haven't got the software installed, the software is in that zipped up .rar file :p

Download WinRAR for free, open .zip and then you'll be able to install the contents

Blooming computers! If they are so smart why cant they tell what I am trying to do?

[neallewis]

Blooming computers! If they are so smart why cant they tell what I am trying to do?

Computers aren't smart. They do what you tell them.

[Danosborne6661]

Computers aren't smart. They do what you tell them.

Well said :lol: Computers are smart untill they have human input :p

[grimidol]

+1 just ordered a skyrc toro 120a after following this thread :thumbsup:
Can anyone give me advice on set up on a 8.5 brushless 2wd setting on speedo as a starting point.
cheers

[neallewis]

+1 just ordered a skyrc toro 120a after following this thread :thumbsup:
Can anyone give me advice on set up on a 8.5 brushless 2wd setting on speedo as a starting point.
cheers

run with the defaults.

[Danosborne6661]

I've just wired the 120a into my Yokomo B-max 2 with the Bluetooth module.

I was amazed that you can just leave the bluetooth module stuck-in to your car and leave it plugged in. To change settings you don't need to press anything on the ESC, just launch the app on your phone and change away :D You don't even need to take the shell off, you can just pull over while running!

I've set-up a few profiles on my phone - 1 with all parametres on 0 (Blinky), One with 20 degrees of boost timing so I can compare and go from there :)

I used to run a 7.5 in my 2WD, but I've stepped down to a 10.5 so I can take full advantage of changing the settings like boost timing. Should make the car very fair to drive round the infield yet still rapid down the straights :thumbsup:

How fast does that kit fan spin as well?! Sounds like my cars going to take off!

[safk]

Computers aren't smart. They do what you tell them.

That's not true.

Mine has never F'ed off and died a horrible death like I've told it to several hundred times!

[safk]

Think I'm making progress now, even managed to make the page read in English (click the tab in the top right of the Skylink logo on the first page in case anyone else was struggling)

[grimidol]

With a 8.5 they say set the boost at 10 and timing at 55 ? Anyone tried this?
Just using program 1 what is same as mod but almost like a safe mode no boost and 10 timing

[V6Jim]

I've just wired the 120a into my Yokomo B-max 2 with the Bluetooth module.

I was amazed that you can just leave the bluetooth module stuck-in to your car and leave it plugged in. To change settings you don't need to press anything on the ESC, just launch the app on your phone and change away :D You don't even need to take the shell off, you can just pull over while running!

I've set-up a few profiles on my phone - 1 with all parametres on 0 (Blinky), One with 20 degrees of boost timing so I can compare and go from there :)

I used to run a 7.5 in my 2WD, but I've stepped down to a 10.5 so I can take full advantage of changing the settings like boost timing. Should make the car very fair to drive round the infield yet still rapid down the straights :thumbsup:

How fast does that kit fan spin as well?! Sounds like my cars going to take off!

Cool.;):thumbsup:

[Bluestreak]

Are these allowed for BRCA organised events Regionals, Nats et??

[V6Jim]

Are these allowed for BRCA organised events Regionals, Nats et??

As far as I'm aware, there are no restrictions for esc's in 1/10th Off Road. There are 'blinky' rules for 1/12th I believe.

So, yes, it's OK to use.

Jimmy

[OneKiwi]

http://www.rcdriver.com/rcd/index.php/review-skyrc-toro-ts120-competition-brushless-speed-control-and-ares-13-5-turn-motor/

Promising.. will probably see this esc in more hands

[safk]

Can you only set different profiles on a PC as I can't see a way on changing it on the programming card

[neallewis]

Can you only set different profiles on a PC as I can't see a way on changing it on the programming card

scroll though the options on the card and look for "Pre setting". press enter and it will allow you to select the profiles, 0-9.

Select the profile you want, then make changes to save to that profile.

Select another profile, make changes to that and save.

Selecting the first profile should take you back to the settings you set on that first profile edit.

[safk]

Thanks Neal, I don't recall seeing that option but I'll have another look tonight .

[tonydevon]

just read and searched ebay for this ESC and bluetooth thing.

Im amazed at just what you can adjust and the price of it, the bluetooth thing with ability to adjust it via android phone etc is so impressive

the adjustable boost and ability to make custom throttle curves is mental

the last ESC I owned all you could do was twist a screw to move the neutral point LOL

Im currently putting together my first 1/10th off road buggy setup and this speedo just made it to the top of the shopping list.

do I assume that I can run any brand sensored BL motor, Im looking for a 8.5.

never owned anything brushless before

[Danosborne6661]

Yeap any brand motor Tony! I'd recommend a slower motor though, you can make the most of the boost features that way.

Am I right that you popped down to Mendip on Sunday? My car was the lead car in the yellow scheme in my signature. I was only running a 10.5 motor with boosted options on this SkyESC and it was more than fast enough, I actually turned down some of the boost!

[tonydevon]

yes that was me, I had planned to buy a 13.5 and use that but people told me to just go with an 8.5 and then turn it down so that it was capable of going faster once I was able?

my last buggy ran 10x1 brushed LOL.

Im gradually compiling the list of parts, but cant decide on the buggy, rather an important thing.

thanks for the feedback, but will certainly look at this speedo, I just love the idea of being able to tweak things, will no doubt end in tear many times with lots of "return to default setting"

[Danosborne6661]

My 10.5 with boosted was as quick as any of the 7.5's down the straight. Just had the driveability round the very technical infield which was great. I've ran 7.5's for years and that was the first time I've ran a 10.5 boosted and it was great with this ESC!

Offtopic to this thread but the top 2 cars at the club was my Yokomo B-max and Kevs B-max. The Durango DEX210 is equally as good though and of course the upcoming Associated B5M will be a big seller :)

[mattr]

I've been using a reventon pro with bluetooth for a few months. Well impressed.
It's actually become almost a must have for my next speedo.

I use it for a few days after moving outdoors/indoors/changing motors as I can quickly reprogram the esc for the new track/motor. Then once it's working well, the bluetooth comes out. (As there really not the room in a 410 to leave it in!)

Just got the skyrc 150A speedo, and will be getting the bluetooth module for that as well. Ready for the outdoor season, don't fancy running an 8th scale indoors at our track!

[leelar]

@ Danosborne6661 how have you set up your speedo for your 10.5 as i dont real understand how to set the boost and turbo

[grimidol]

I use a x-factory cubed 23 / 78 toro 120amp program 1 with 5 boost 20 turbo 15% drag brake 8.5 turnigy motor seemed was fast and easy to drive motor stayed cold. Carpet track with jumps about 25-30m straight.

[neallewis]

Thanks Neal, I don't recall seeing that option but I'll have another look tonight .

I think you are best setting each profile on the PC, then fine tuning and selecting between them with the program card.

[Danosborne6661]

@ Danosborne6661 how have you set up your speedo for your 10.5 as i dont real understand how to set the boost and turbo

Basically you can set when the timing comes in and ends by RPM. You work out the highest RPM by getting the kv of your motor and times that by the voltage. So my Speed Passion 10.5 is 2800kv off the top of my head, times by 7.4 is 20,720rpm.

With that in mind I set it so 20 degrees of timing comes in at 5000rpm and ends at the highest (20,720rpm) as an ending point. This way it only comes on down the straights. I ended up lowering the amount of timing that came in from 20 degrees to 17 and that was as quick as any 7.5 on the straight but twice as driveable.

That was my starting point anyway! Hope that helps

[safk]

I think you are best setting each profile on the PC, then fine tuning and selecting between them with the program card.
Having a 1/10 buggy on my desk makes it a little obvious that I'm not concentrating on the day job (Home PC v.old & v.pooh & the USB ports stopped working years ago!)

[tonydevon]

the bluetooth function with a smartphone looks pretty useable, thats what interested me as I only have my phone or the work PC, and like you I think they might look at me odd with a "toy car" on the desk LOL

[safk]

Basically you can set when the timing comes in and ends by RPM. You work out the highest RPM by getting the kv of your motor and times that by the voltage. So my Speed Passion 10.5 is 2800kv off the top of my head, times by 7.4 is 20,720rpm.

With that in mind I set it so 20 degrees of timing comes in at 5000rpm and ends at the highest (20,720rpm) as an ending point. This way it only comes on down the straights.



Would that be the "Boost" setting or "Turbo"?

[Danosborne6661]

Boost mate, no one really touches the turbo setting inless you have the ESC in a touring car. The 'Boost' is great though.

[safk]

Thanks, as you may have guessed I don't realy have a Sccoby Doo about any of this as things have moved on quite a lot in the 20 odd years since I last raced!

[Northy]

On my HPI - that has the same features - I've been told to not use boost at all and just add turbo to seamlessly add advance at max throttle :bored:

G

[Danosborne6661]

Sounds like a weird set-up that Northy! You wouldn't have the turbo come in right at the end of a real cars throttle? With that it means you won't get turbo until your car is fully maxxing out?

I would recommend the boost though, my car was brilliant with the above configuration! Might be worth setting 2 different profiles up and seeing what you think of them back to back?

[Northy]

It's suppose to just add top end by increasing the timing the instant you hit full throttle.

Might have a play, never felt the need to tbh, cars always been quick enough :D

G

[RogerM]

Not odd at all, it's what most Orion / HobbyWing guys do.

Adding boost gives you more at the low-mid range, exactly where you want it to feel softer and more progressive.

Adding turbo just affects the top end after a small delay, means that you can have mega speed on the straights and a silky smooth throttle response everywhere else.

Also helps over gap jumps with short run ups as you can have the snap throttle to clear them by gearing down a bit and still have plenty of speeeeeeeeeed.

Running boost just heats up the motor and makes the car feel less fluid in my experience, I'd go down a wind before adding any boost to an off-road car.

[Danosborne6661]

Not odd at all, it's what most Orion / HobbyWing guys do.

Adding boost gives you more at the low-mid range, exactly where you want it to feel softer and more progressive.

Adding turbo just affects the top end after a small delay, means that you can have mega speed on the straights and a silky smooth throttle response everywhere else.

Also helps over gap jumps with short run ups as you can have the snap throttle to clear them by gearing down a bit and still have plenty of speeeeeeeeeed.

Running boost just heats up the motor and makes the car feel less fluid in my experience, I'd go down a wind before adding any boost to an off-road car.

Boost also gives you a silky smooth bottom end though and just a higher top end. As mines set to come in at 5000rpm, so it's not actually active the whole way round the track until you hit the straight.

With boost I have a 10.5 with 0 timing the whole way round the track, as soon as I get to the straight at 5000rpm I have 17 degrees of timing come in!

I might have to try boost/turbo back to back too :)

[Ralls Racing]

dan your boost idea does work well with stock motors as they dont have the punch of a 7.5 but we have found that once you move to a 8.5 and above that northy and rogers ideas are what most people run with to keep the motor as smooth as possible and stop the possibility of coming on boost when feathering through a turn or sweeper in off road (onroad has a whole new set of rules ;)
for this reason we only run turbo on full throttle activation normally without delay and have it kick in as early as possible so it ramps through the whole range, this helps keep all that extra power as managable as possible

Nathan Ralls

[leelar]

Thanks for all the information as I had a go with both today and I thought the turbo only felt the best at Southports indoor astro track :thumbsup:

[Big paul]

Just received my toro 120. Just need to ask is brown on the receiver wire's ect the negative. Don't use Hitec or Futaba so not sure, and don't want to guess

[fidspeed]

usual scenario

signal = white / orange
positive = red
negative = black /brown

red positive is almost always centre pin (that way if you plug it in wrong way round by mistake it wont blow anything up) exceptions early KO rx's (i mean late 80's early 90's stuff

dave

[Big paul]

I was not sure.did not won't to risk blowing my 471 sanwa receiver, so thanks for the info.

[safk]

Sorry if this as a dumb question but I am trying to get my head round what does / doesn't do what when it comes to the settings.
Am I correct in thinking that neither boost nor turbo will change the ultimate top speed (I presume only a change in gear ratio or the KV/RPM rating of the motor) they just change the way it gets to that maximum RPM?

[rcpower]

They sure influence your "top" RPM... and therefor your top speed as well.

Sorry if this as a dumb question but I am trying to get my head round what does / doesn't do what when it comes to the settings.
Am I correct in thinking that neither boost nor turbo will change the ultimate top speed (I presume only a change in gear ratio or the KV/RPM rating of the motor) they just change the way it gets to that maximum RPM?

[Danosborne6661]

Sorry if this as a dumb question but I am trying to get my head round what does / doesn't do what when it comes to the settings.
Am I correct in thinking that neither boost nor turbo will change the ultimate top speed (I presume only a change in gear ratio or the KV/RPM rating of the motor) they just change the way it gets to that maximum RPM?

Both change the top speed, massively!

[safk]

So for instance, if it the car reaches top speed half way down the straight but it's quite nice to drive on the slower parts of the track should I add a little turbo or should I add boost that starts at about 50% of max RPM?

[neallewis]

So for instance, if it the car reaches top speed half way down the straight but it's quite nice to drive on the slower parts of the track should I add a little turbo or should I add boost that starts at about 50% of max RPM?

Turbo can be set to kick in and give additive timing advance at full throttle. If you are not at full throttle, then its not added, so the car remains tame at lower speeds.

Boost is added at set RPM points, so timing ramps up from start RPM and is fully applied at end RPM setting. This is applied at all throttle points (so long as the motor is in the RPM range), so it can quickly become a handful if you over do the setting.

[rickard64]

Just burnt my Speed passion reventon pro 1.1 and saw this thread, 80$ for a new esc isn't bad =)

anyone had any experience coming from speed passion to this?
better? worse?


thinking if getting a new motor paired with this one to... any suggestions?
thinking about 7.5T motor with this Toro 120 in a tlr 22 midmotor config.

[rcpower]

in that case you would have to add turbo.

So for instance, if it the car reaches top speed half way down the straight but it's quite nice to drive on the slower parts of the track should I add a little turbo or should I add boost that starts at about 50% of max RPM?

[safk]

in that case you would have to add turbo.

Thank you

[percymon]

Is there any reason why the 150a version for 1/8 scale couldnt be used in a 1/10 buggy? Only reason I ask, is ive been looking at these for a while now for my tm2 and the 150a version is slightly cheaper on ebay than the 120a version. It will be for running a lrp x12 oct wind 6.5t motor if that makes any difference.
Thanks Darren

Sorry to be replying to an old post but after reading the goodness of the 120a I was hopeful for their 150A ( to be used in 1/8th truggy). Well after reading this thread ...

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/175034-skyrc-toro-150a-esc/

I won't be bothering.

I'd give some leeway for perhaps poor programming, poor mismatch of equipment but no good news in that thread.

Shame as the 120A appears an excellent piece of kit ;)

[safk]

Shame as the 120A appears an excellent piece of kit ;)

I am really pleased with it for the money although the range of adjustments is a bit bewildering for a newbie/numpty. In fairness I am only running a 10.5T motor with it with a little turbo so can't comment on how it performs with more extreme settings.

[mattr]

Sorry to be replying to an old post but after reading the goodness of the 120a I was hopeful for their 150A ( to be used in 1/8th truggy). Well after reading this thread ...

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/175034-skyrc-toro-150a-esc/

I won't be bothering.strange, I read that and thought, "sounds like it'll just need careful looking after and programming when I first set it up"

We will see!

(Thought the guy with the 3.5t and 150a ESC in a B44 was a wtf moment)

[StwBald]

is this from hobbyking the same esc

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__33973__Turnigy_Trackstar_GenII_120A_1_10th_Scale _Sensored_Brushless_Car_ESC_PC_Programmable_AU_.ht ml

[neallewis]

is this from hobbyking the same esc

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__33973__Turnigy_Trackstar_GenII_120A_1_10th_Scale _Sensored_Brushless_Car_ESC_PC_Programmable_AU_.ht ml

It looks to be similar. you'll need the USB interface or USB program box as well.

[neallewis]

strange, I read that and thought, "sounds like it'll just need careful looking after and programming when I first set it up"

We will see!

(Thought the guy with the 3.5t and 150a ESC in a B44 was a wtf moment)

bashers on a bashers forum...
He admitted himself he didn't understand the software. he had it set to 1S voltage cut off when he was using 4S. I wouldn't take that as how everyones experience will be. He seemed cheesed off that he had to solder, ffs. If you want it all done for you, pay the price to get it done. not look for something "cheap" then moan because it doesn't meet your expectations.

[Danosborne6661]

The Turnigy ESC is not the same. I looked into it and is completely different

[markw]

any one got a good smooth setup running a thunderpower 7.5 for 4wd please ..

[safk]

Raced with mine last night.

Heat 1 fine

Heat 2 put car down & went to rostrum & the sttering would work but not the throttle, fixed itself after a few soconds & ran fine for the heat.

Heat 3 I turn on TX & ESC & again got steering but no throttle, tried for 10 seconds or so to no avail. Turned ESC off then on again still no throttle. Re-set throttle netral, full throttle & full brake & it worked fine again for that heat & the final.

Anyone had a similar problem or suggest what me be the issue?

[V6Jim]

Sensor cable?

[Big paul]

Sensor cable?

The toro runs censored or censor-less it would work the motor, but with no boost or turbo, if it was the censor wire.

[Big paul]

I also have had the same with losing throttle end points. So I too would be interested to get to the bottom of this issue. It do's not happen regular but it is the last thing you need when you turn your car on for the start of a heat.

[neallewis]

I also have had the same with losing throttle end points. So I too would be interested to get to the bottom of this issue. It do's not happen regular but it is the last thing you need when you turn your car on for the start of a heat.

whar radio are you using? whats the neutral range set to? have you recalibrated?

[neallewis]

I've just picked up the new black alloy case version. Same as the blue plastic cased but in a black full alloy case for better heat dissipation.

Pictures here:
http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php/electrics/sk-300062-02-sky-rc-toro-ts-120a-alloy-esc-black.html

[Big paul]

whar radio are you using? whats the neutral range set to? have you recalibrated?

sanwa m12:thumbsup: Yes I have to recalibrate,as it looses end points. Not trying to be a smart ass just answering your questen
the neutral range is set to 6% on the ecs.

[Big paul]

I have just seen on another forum, that if you move your throttle settings on your hand set it can throw your esc end points out. Now I don't do this intentionally, I may be doing this by accident, as the M12 has loads of buttons all over the place and is dead easy to catch one.

[BazzerH]

Even though I've just been singing the praises of this speedo on another thread I do have one little problem with it. I can't get mine to ccalibrate! Get to the throttle calibration and get beep beep but come to do the brake and nothing. Just unresponsive. Have to switch off and switch back on. Not as major problem as it could be as I've set my throttle and brake end points to 140% and 115% and am getting full throttle and brake ie LED goes solid green. Neutral point is correct as well as if I tinker with the throttle trim it's slap bang in middle of dead zone at 0 trim.

So not major issue but does irk me slightly. Anyone have similar issues or a solution? Have re flashed latest firmware etc

[OneKiwi]

How is everyone getting on with these?
Any of the problems been sorted with FW upgrading?

[/tobys]

Seems a really good speedo. I've not had any problems updating firmware on mine. Only funny is that you have to run as admin under windows and switch to English once it's connected to the PC as it defaults to Chinese!

[rharris72]

Struggling to find a decent setup for ts120 in touring car with 13.5 . Boost works and turbo but when running boost and turbo together it appears turbo doesn't kick in . Or is it the smooth I'm not noticing it .

[ste_lazzaro]

Hi everybody!
I just had one of these TS120A (I know, I'm late..).
I installed/connected/calibrated/programmed it and everything was ok.
Then I upgraded the firmware to the most recent 2.02 version.
After doing this the remote off switch was disabled.
Is it correct or I'm missing something?
I went back to 1.05 and the remote off switch was enabled again.

Anyone knowing what is the difference between firmware 1.05, 2.01 and 2.02?:confused:

Thanks!

[ste_lazzaro]

Here is the reply from SKY RC:

V1.05 and V2.01: in V2.01, we add roar mode.
V2.01 and V2.02: in V2.02, we disable the function switch off from radio (by holding full brake)

Cheers

[neallewis]

Settings wise, I have found the default punch setting far too steppy between switch points, which kicked the back end out on the slippy stuff.

I now have both punch stages set to "moderate" or 15 (version dependant), and the switch point set to 1%, or basically no switch point. This gives a far smoother throttle feel than defaults.
This setting is essentially a current limiter. The lower value limits more current, the step feel is at the switch point when less current is limited, which is felt as a surge of power. Setting the value higher than defaults (low or 5) means less difference is noticed. Even when the punch values for both stages are set the same, you can feel the switch point on the car. Setting the switch point so low (1%) means its not felt. Maxing out the punch rate setting give a nice aggressive throttle feel, perfect for stock motor racing, but too much for a lowish wind modified class motor.

These settings are identical to the hobbywing xerun v3.1 esc.


With my sanwa radio I've also reduced the esc throttle dead band to 50us from 80us. This gives a more responsive feeling throttle stick.

I'm now on 2.04 software version.

I noticed the remote cut off had gone, but I never have full break enabled on the radio, so could never turn it off anyway. not missed by me.

I don't run boost, but use some turbo with full throttle activation on bigger tracks. Typically 10-15 deg. Smaller tracks I set to 0deg turbo (disabled)

My 5th one is on order now, I like them, certainly now I have sorted the throttle step I felt with default settings. No issues except I killed one reverse connecting battery in a rush.

I've not tried the new 160A version. looks decent though. Software is the same.

[ste_lazzaro]

Where did you get the 2.04?? :confused:

[neallewis]

Where did you get the 2.04?? :confused:

skyrc site. thats the version the program box comes up with on power up, so may be it's version, rather than actual ESC version. I'll check tomorrow.

[bomber]

Neal, I have just put this in my 2wd as my faithful R10 has just died, I'm having trouble getting it to be smooth, it is lighting up the rear wheels up even with not a lot of throttle making the car a absolute handful compared to the Orion, my settings are

Punch rate switch 50%
1st stage punch very weak
2nd stage punch weak
Throttle dead band 80us (Sanwa Radio)
Boost OFF
Turbo 10 degree
all other turbo settings standard

Running a Orion VST2 6.5

[rutt]

Does anyone know how to spot a fake version of this.
I bought one was happy with it but it stopped working last night in only its second meeting , barely 30 mins in total.
It was an eBay purchase which I now think was a mistake

[neallewis]

Does anyone know how to spot a fake version of this.
I bought one was happy with it but it stopped working last night in only its second meeting , barely 30 mins in total.
It was an eBay purchase which I now think was a mistake

I'm not sure that they are fakes, just a major quality control problem..
I've known of three recently purchased toros that have gone up in smoke on first use, purchased from different sources. One from Schumacher via a major UK model shop, and others from banggood.
All of mine (5) have been great.

[neallewis]

Neal, I have just put this in my 2wd as my faithful R10 has just died, I'm having trouble getting it to be smooth, it is lighting up the rear wheels up even with not a lot of throttle making the car a absolute handful compared to the Orion, my settings are

Punch rate switch 50%
1st stage punch very weak
2nd stage punch weak
Throttle dead band 80us (Sanwa Radio)
Boost OFF
Turbo 10 degree
all other turbo settings standard

Running a Orion VST2 6.5

Sorry Bomber just seen this...

Move your punch rate switch to 1%, which helps move the step point I was feeling away from throttle mid point.
Punch stages are effectively a current limiter. I run both set to medium (or 15) depending on software version.
I found having too much current limit (punch very weak) produced a harder to drive and steppy feel to the throttle combined with the 50% switch point.

Throttle deadband, I reduced this to 50us with my sanwa after experimenting. This means there is less stick movement before the wheels start to turn. Recalibrate after altering this. It's a big help with the feel.

I have a throttle expo curve on a switch on my sanwa so can switch in if I feel I want to smooth out the bottom end for slipper tracks

Turbo on a 6.5 is a bit much for me, but check your delay time at full throttle that it kicks in. Too soon and it can kick in at the wrong point and upset the car.

I don't run boost, seems a bit manic when I've tried it.

Hope that helps you or someone else.

[Scott_83]

Has anyone used this one blinky touring car

[ayske1]

Sorry Bomber just seen this...

Move your punch rate switch to 1%, which helps move the step point I was feeling away from throttle mid point.
Punch stages are effectively a current limiter. I run both set to medium (or 15) depending on software version.
I found having too much current limit (punch very weak) produced a harder to drive and steppy feel to the throttle combined with the 50% switch point.

Throttle deadband, I reduced this to 50us with my sanwa after experimenting. This means there is less stick movement before the wheels start to turn. Recalibrate after altering this. It's a big help with the feel.

I have a throttle expo curve on a switch on my sanwa so can switch in if I feel I want to smooth out the bottom end for slipper tracks

Turbo on a 6.5 is a bit much for me, but check your delay time at full throttle that it kicks in. Too soon and it can kick in at the wrong point and upset the car.

I don't run boost, seems a bit manic when I've tried it.

Hope that helps you or someone else. I'm running the hobby king gen2 esc (which uses the same software layout) and did notice the dead band change after the firmware update.. Good to know about the change. Running high traction, on a tight track I'm sure could help a bit squeezing in that extra speed through constant throttling...

[Scott_83]

Has anyone got this in a tc running blinky?

[Joe_K]

I used my TS 120A in my Mi5evo last year in blinky, was very good, very punchy. This was with a SkyRC Ares Pro 17.5T motor on about 3.2 FDR with 30 degrees motor timing. Not quite as fast top end as another guy at the club who was running Muchmore ESC & motor, but better through the corners.

[Scott_83]

Ever had many problems with it getting too hot. Will be on both 17.5 and 13.5 blinky then modified when I have improved
And do you have the sky link.

[Joe_K]

Ever had many problems with it getting too hot. Will be on both 17.5 and 13.5 blinky then modified when I have improved
And do you have the sky link.

No issues at all. Never even gets warm. Never ran modified, 13.5 boosted is plenty fast enough for me.

Yes, I have both the program box and the Bluetooth module, both work fine, but prog box is necessary if you want to update firmware.

[adon30]

Anyone had an issue with the Toro where it will not switch off when you hold the transmitter in the reverse position for several seconds??
I have one that does, one that doesn't and one that didn't and then exploded in smoke!
I'm a bit concerned about the one that isn't functioning correctly as it is a replacement for the one that blew up.:o

The other one I've had for over a year and has been absolutely fine.

[neallewis]

Anyone had an issue with the Toro where it will not switch off when you hold the transmitter in the reverse position for several seconds??
I have one that does, one that doesn't and one that didn't and then exploded in smoke!
I'm a bit concerned about the one that isn't functioning correctly as it is a replacement for the one that blew up.:o

The other one I've had for over a year and has been absolutely fine.


Yeah. it's got newer software on it, and they removed this feature a few updates ago.

There was a bad batch run, but they seem to have gone now from UK distribution (Schumacher) and banggood, so replament should be OK ifnit hasn't gone pop first meeting.

[adon30]

Yeah. it's got newer software on it, and they removed this feature a few updates ago.

There was a bad batch run, but they seem to have gone now from UK distribution (Schumacher) and banggood, so replament should be OK ifnit hasn't gone pop first meeting.

Maybe if I try an older version of software then it will prove the function. The off switch is in an awkward place so it's useful for switching off. I haven't updated my original one so didn't know the option had gone. Only problem there then is I'm missing out on any other operational upgrades.
I thought it may have been a sensor fault in that the esc didn't know the motor wasn't operating. So therefore didn't think it was ok to switch off.
Maybe they'll bring the function back in future upgrades.

The replacement is within a hundred serial numbers of the one that went pop so fingers crossed on that one. It's a banggood one. Any idea on the serial numbers of ones that went pop?

[neallewis]

Maybe if I try an older version of software then it will prove the function. The off switch is in an awkward place so it's useful for switching off. I haven't updated my original one so didn't know the option had gone. Only problem there then is I'm missing out on any other operational upgrades.
I thought it may have been a sensor fault in that the esc didn't know the motor wasn't operating. So therefore didn't think it was ok to switch off.
Maybe they'll bring the function back in future upgrades.

The replacement is within a hundred serial numbers of the one that went pop so fingers crossed on that one. It's a banggood one. Any idea on the serial numbers of ones that went pop?

I doubt it will come back to be honest, I don't miss it, as almost i never have full break set on my transmitter, adjusting to the required amount n practice, so it never worked anyway as full break needed to be held for 3 seconds.

no idea on serials sorry.

skyrc don't list older versions to download, only the latest. They don't do a change log/release notes either, I read changes in the versions from the Gforce change log, which is the same speedo.

[bretts]

Neal (Yoda)

I love this Esc. Thanks for the tips.

However my fan sounds like a jet. Is there an alternative or do i really need it with 8.5 in 2wd?

Ta
Brett

[neallewis]

Neal (Yoda)

I love this Esc. Thanks for the tips.

However my fan sounds like a jet. Is there an alternative or do i really need it with 8.5 in 2wd?

Ta
Brett

Cheers Brett. I run a fan on mine with a 7.0 on high traction, but didn't with an 8.5 over the winter on our lower traction tracks.

Run yours without fan and check temps, both via touch and using the program box to read esc temp after the run.

The fans have bronze bushings, not bearings, hence the noise. Easy to replace with a higher quality fan. some of the branded fans are the same though, with a different sticker. I've found the orca, WTF and yokomo racing performer fans are best quality, which is reflected in the price.

[mpg200]

Anyone else had a random failure of these?

I Have 3 of these, 2 have been faultless for a year or so. But I had one fail at York on Saturday. It had been fine the previous meeting when it was new, but let the smoke out this week and killed a phase. I am currently trying to repair it, but i'm gonna change all the FETs not just the failed phase. I have several other speedos to scavenge bits from.

Matt

[neallewis]

Anyone else had a random failure of these?

I Have 3 of these, 2 have been faultless for a year or so. But I had one fail at York on Saturday. It had been fine the previous meeting when it was new, but let the smoke out this week and killed a phase. I am currently trying to repair it, but i'm gonna change all the FETs not just the failed phase. I have several other speedos to scavenge bits from.

Matt

There was a QC issue with some recent batches. Where did you by it from? send it back.

[mpg200]

Well now. I would be able to send it back if I hadn't taken it apart to paint it when I got it. Also I've then it apart again to fault find. So it looks like I'll take one for the team and do a full autopsy.
Micro board is still fine, still connects to pc via program card. This board houses the FET drive ICs and the BEC regulators, all still working fine.

Top board is the FET board which has 24 mosfets these are alpha omega AON6512 in a DQFN 5x6 package. This where I suspect the quality problem may be. I'm not a fan of alpha omega semiconductors. In a high current application such as this personally I would have specced an international rectifier part instead. But hey ho... The issue is as there are 4 fets in parallel for switching phase you only need one to fail for the whole stack to go.
So lesson.
Don't paint your speed controller :blush:

Matt

[neallewis]

Well now. I would be able to send it back if I hadn't taken it apart to paint it when I got it. Also I've then it apart again to fault find. So it looks like I'll take one for the team and do a full autopsy.
Micro board is still fine, still connects to pc via program card. This board houses the FET drive ICs and the BEC regulators, all still working fine.

Top board is the FET board which has 24 mosfets these are alpha omega AON6512 in a DQFN 5x6 package. This where I suspect the quality problem may be. I'm not a fan of alpha omega semiconductors. In a high current application such as this personally I would have specced an international rectifier part instead. But hey ho... The issue is as there are 4 fets in parallel for switching phase you only need one to fail for the whole stack to go.
So lesson.
Don't paint your speed controller :blush:

Matt

There may be a few blown ones about, perhaps you can collect a few and pull some fets to replace.

do International make a pin compatible part?

Yeah painting it may not have been the best move. what colour?

[mpg200]

There may be a few blown ones about, perhaps you can collect a few and pull some fets to replace.

do International make a pin compatible part?

Yeah painting it may not have been the best move. what colour?

Unfortunately the copper lead frame of the failed FETS have fused with the PCB tracks also the PCB has started to de-laminate. So its in the bin for this one. (i'll keep the micro board it still works)
I do have a working FET board of an LRP SXX this has IRF5300 FETS with the same package, my plan was to transplant all 24 of them, but that's a no go having seen the destruction. I may be look at transplanting the whole board to make a hybrid just as a project, close to the same size just need to sort out the pinout of each to see if i can 'make it fit'.

I painted it metallic black, looked good till it died.

Matt

[Danosborne6661]

If anyone has a knackered Toro 120a please PM me!

I completely busted the casing on mine after a heavy crash, so if you've blown yours and want to sell it on so I can reshell mine let me know please!

Thanks all!

[Northy]

I've seen the fets fused to teh PCB once they've blown too - scrap :cry:

[DriftCrusade]

Hey guys I'm trying to change motor direction on my toro ts120amp esc and the little star doesn't seem to move, it says it sent to esc but the star stays in same place??? I did burn out the original inside of aluminium version but replaced with the Plastic ver insides! That shouldn't matter yeah? Because it's the same esc just different apperence? cheers