oOple's Vintage Motor Library; The Brushed Era

[optiman]

Well we can all agree that today all brushed motors are now a thing of the past so I guess it seemed logical to create this thread in the vintage forum.
The idea is to create a library of ALL brushed motors with specs, pictures, tales, fails & small scale fires, racing history, etc... I bet there are some people here who would like to share a thing or two. So let us know which was you personal favorite, with what motor you beat who, infamous motors, special windings, secret brush cuts, tips, etc...

Right of the bat I'll start by telling a short tale about Venom's Fireball motors... you can guess right away what happened... the name saids it all. Right in the middle of a heat a brand new Fireball 15t motor literally catched fire!!! What a piece of krap! :thumbdown: At least it gave the track a bit of drama LOL

One of my personal favorites, and not really that old, is Reedy's Challenger 19Turn motor... excellent duration and plenty of power :thumbsup:

PS: Those Reedy's 19T Challenger motors are capable of 47,000 rpms @ 7.2V with some brush tunning, timming and 12.8 amp draw, bit high but with an estimated 76% efficiency. Not bad for a 19T, those are really good motors.

[j0pp3]

You mean stuff like this right? :wub

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/kyosho_lemans_01.jpg

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/kyosho_lemans_02.jpg

[j0pp3]

And some more thanks to OptimaHouse who scanned this I believe :)

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/kyosho_lemans_03.jpg


http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/kyosho_lemans_04.jpg



http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/kyosho_lemans_05.jpg

[NeilD]

HPI Uno.

[NeilD]

Team Tanaplan.

[j0pp3]

Trinity Monster Horsepower 85 Worlds
1x14 44.000rpm I believe

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/trinity_monster_horsepower_85.jpg

[j0pp3]

Trinity Monster Horsepower 85-87 Worlds

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/trinity_monster_horsepower_8587.jpg

[optiman]

You mean stuff like this right? :wub



Exactly that! :thumbsup:

It's the first time I ever saw those Kyosho's REV 360 motors, what was their application?

NeilD, I am intrigued, what is the history & specs about the HPI UNO motors? I know that they where on Massami's Schuey's but that's about it. Where they were that good?

Not long ago I built this guy as an experiment, just for laughs. Not exactly a bomb shell but it performed really good. I called it; "The 15x8 Gardy's Special". 32,552 rpms @ 7.2V with 5.07 amp / 35 watts draw, ball bearings, with an estimated efficiency of 76%. Dont remember the wire gage though.

The other guy was a Thunder Tiger 550 based motor (still labeled as a 19T) which I made it a 12x1 and got from it 33,089rpms @ 7.4V(simulated Lipo) with 5.3 amp draw, no bb's. Pretty good rmps for a no bb and 550 rotor motor.

[optiman]

Here is a picture of my old motor lab...:wub

[j0pp3]

Exactly that! :thumbsup:

It's the first time I ever saw those Kyosho's REV 360 motors, what was their application?


Do you mean the REV 300T and REV 300S?

[optiman]

Do you mean the REV 300T and REV 300S?

Exactly those.
I always wondered, why Kyosho never went serious with the Le Mans motors, I mean 12turns and things like that. Such a pretty motor that only seemed to perform in the shelf...

[j0pp3]

Exactly those.
I always wondered, why Kyosho never went serious with the Le Mans motors, I mean 12turns and things like that. Such a pretty motor that only seemed to perform in the shelf...

This is what I can read from the small text:

REV 300T
Ideal for: High torque direct loads, such as boats and gliders.

REV 300S
Ideal for: High torque loads through reduction gear box, such as EP Concept (helicopter)

[CAT3K]

Remember using these?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_3216_zps80fb9f6c.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_3216_zps80fb9f6c.jpg.html)

I actually had a play with these the other day :lol:

Paul.

[j0pp3]

Remember using these?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_3216_zps80fb9f6c.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_3216_zps80fb9f6c.jpg.html)

I actually had a play with these the other day :lol:

Paul.

We actually used one of those for fun at VONats 2013 in september. Ran a Tamiya Sport Tuned on it :lol:

Do you have the part that should be muonted in the motor? That part is often gone when people sell those...

[CAT3K]

We actually used one of those for fun at VONats 2013 in september. Ran a Tamiya Sport Tuned on it :lol:

Do you have the part that should be muonted in the motor? That part is often gone when people sell those...

Yeah, I have a couple of them. If you look on the left hand dresser there one of them clamped onto one of the croc clips so I don't lose it.

[NeilD]

Exactly that! :thumbsup:

It's the first time I ever saw those Kyosho's REV 360 motors, what was their application?

NeilD, I am intrigued, what is the history & specs about the HPI UNO motors? I know that they where on Massami's Schuey's but that's about it. Where they were that good?

Not long ago I built this guy as an experiment, just for laughs. Not exactly a bomb shell but it performed really good. I called it; "The 15x8 Gardy's Special". 32,552 rpms @ 7.2V with 5.07 amp / 35 watts draw, ball bearings, with an estimated efficiency of 76%. Dont remember the wire gage though.

The other guy was a Thunder Tiger 550 based motor (still labeled as a 19T) which I made it a 12x1 and got from it 33,089rpms @ 7.4V(simulated Lipo) with 5.3 amp draw, no bb's. Pretty good rmps for a no bb and 550 rotor motor.

I don't know too much about their motors but I did find some information on their early history:

Hobby Products International

The company, originally an export firm, was founded in 1986 by Tatsuro Watanabe and a partner, each with a total investment of US$100 each. Their original office in Costa Mesa, California measured only 300 square feet (28 m2). A line of electric R/C motors called the Uno series were among the first products offered by HPI. Buoyed by the success of the Uno, HPI opened a small office in Japan that same year.
1987 would see world champion driver Masami Hirosaka use an Uno in his first IFMAR World Championship win in England.
By 1988, the burgeoning RC aftermarket proved to be a boon to HPI USA as they started exporting popular American-made R/C products to Japan, including such familiar brands as MIP, Peak Performance and Paragon.

I'll try and find specs for the motor.

[NeilD]

Information on the HPI Uno is proving difficult to find but I stumbled across the first motor and ESC from LRP.

[NeilD]

Information on the HPI Uno is proving difficult to find but I stumbled across the first motor and ESC from LRP.

The first motor.

[optiman]

The first motor.

Wow thank's for the info.
Nice motor. Nothing beats the looks of a CNC'd enbell and front plate of earlier motors!

[DanB4]

This thread makes me feel like a kid again! :thumbsup:

[NeilD]

This thread makes me feel like a kid again! :thumbsup:


It makes me want an LRP Blue SE!

[j0pp3]

Reedy Mr. L's 14 Turn Double 4WD Offroad :)

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/reedy_ultra_mr_l.jpg

[j0pp3]

Reedy Modified 1/12 1978/1979/1980 R.O.A.R Winner

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/reedy_modified_12e.jpg

[CAT3K]

It makes me want an LRP Blue SE!

I think a couple of these are SE's

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_3189_zps2f519a09.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_3189_zps2f519a09.jpg.html)

The Trinity here is my favourite motor, alloy endbell the lot. The AYK is cool too.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/bf39dafa.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/bf39dafa.jpg.html)

The Trinity now lives in the back of my Topcat.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_2378_zpsfc584ffc.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_2378_zpsfc584ffc.jpg.html)

Paul.

[j0pp3]

This is cool! Like a toothbrush commercial :)

http://joppis.dyndns.org/vintage_ads/029.jpg

[j0pp3]

Trinity SpeedWorks 27T Joel "Magic" Johnson

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/trinity_speed_works_27t.jpg

[isobarik]

This is cool! Like a toothbrush commercial :)

http://joppis.dyndns.org/vintage_ads/029.jpg

I have one of those got it with an complete rc10 team car ,don
Know the winds though

Mvh isobarik

[DCM]

I still got my lathe, my Shinwa Motor Dresser went up in smoke a while ago :( ......

Still got a box full of motors and brushes (the brushes come in handy rebuilding electric window motors to...)

[bert digler]

Remember space age technology god they where crap:thumbsup: trinity they where shocking lrp where ok reedy spot on mind you most fell out of European champions box:drool::lol:

[NeilD]

I think a couple of these are SE's

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_3189_zps2f519a09.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_3189_zps2f519a09.jpg.html)

The Trinity here is my favourite motor, alloy endbell the lot. The AYK is cool too.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/bf39dafa.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/bf39dafa.jpg.html)

The Trinity now lives in the back of my Topcat.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/pikergonecarpin/IMG_2378_zpsfc584ffc.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/pikergonecarpin/media/IMG_2378_zpsfc584ffc.jpg.html)

Paul.

Yup, the two at the top right of the photo, I think. Nice to see you have the boxes for them. Brings back some great memories. Was the Pink the faster motor? I'm sure I had one but the Blue was soon back in my ProCat.

[Welshy40]

Corally my favourite, Reedy Mr M which i used to beat the Master at the worlds warm ups, Fabiix 10 single and Shark Attack were motors I had to use fro my sponsers. Shark Attack was a very torquey motor. Corally 10d was my best motor, car was ballistic with it in. Still cant find one to save my life but Reedy Mr A, Mr X and Mr T brand new in packet were simple to find.

[sheriff]

Ok, who remembers these bad boys?

[GRIFF55]

Hahaha, I think I still have some brown dots new in bags somewhere!
If I get 5, I'll trawl through my brushed collection up the the parents cellar.

[KRob]

What are the chances that either of those MG stock motors are ACTUALLY 27 turns :woot:

[bert digler]

What are the chances that either of those MG stock motors are ACTUALLY 27 turns :woot:

Non went to a stock rc meeting got battered in a straight line by one of these so called mg stocks what I didn't tell em I had a 14double in my car work it out:thumbsup: :lol:

[sheriff]

Hahaha, I think I still have some brown dots new in bags somewhere!
If I get 5, I'll trawl through my brushed collection up the the parents cellar.

Blimey, well if you do find one and fancy selling it, give me a shout, I'll definitely buy it off you Griff.

[sheriff]

Non went to a stock rc meeting got battered in a straight line by one of these so called mg stocks what I didn't tell em I had a 14double in my car work it out:thumbsup: :lol:

Really Bert? (& K Rob) you really think they weren't 27t? I remember there were a lot of pretty quick 27t motors back then. The Revolution stock, Scorcher, and someone lent me a Parma Cyclone stock once for my Maxima, god it was quick.

[GRIFF55]

It depends if you knew people who wound motors there, lots did!!
You would never get faster than an mg 27 single. Lol

[Naushad]

Hmmm...here are some of the nicest brushed pieces I have

This one is in a lazer zx-rr

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/204EE9C2-E2D2-41F5-B052-4475EE55D626-629-0000007B33126649_zpsa4004236.jpg

A few from my collection

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/E126D54F-DF9A-4600-8203-67116377172A-288-0000001F21072EF9_zps1ed86b32.jpg

The checkpoint platinum is one of my favorite motors ever..

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/17DE6F07-3BE8-4984-92ED-3A18ADA3A501-288-0000001F176FC8C0_zps4db63974.jpg

This is a HPI UNO gt-s 23 t. A jap stock

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/A548ADB6-7F45-4570-89FA-2097504771F7-449-00000046AFD2D32C_zps072dafd5.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/64ED8537-1E1C-4013-A8FB-6492E84BEA52-449-00000046BB4F3B8C_zpsf1c14505.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/00C6D3BF-93B4-4BBB-AAB5-ED53FD8B8F31-449-00000046D4ED1B39_zps3ade8546.jpg

Reedy ti

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff378/naushadaj/photo-2-3_zps89c542d8.jpg

I'll try to dig out a few more...

[wildwillydriver]

One of my first modified motor and most loved is the one below, Parma Yokomo (black can and green sticker), it should be a 19T single.
Very smooth power delivery.
Bye
WWD
:)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/31/parmaj.jpg

[tomolupus]

Here's some I bought at a fleemarket years ago.
Sorry for the crappy picture.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/tomolupus/motors.jpg

[spru]

This is a really nice thread! I also love old style motors and here are some impressions from my little "garage" some time ago. Now it`s more :lol:

BTW: Reedy are the best for me

Enjoy
Raimund

[NeilD]

This is a really nice thread! I also love old style motors and here are some impressions from my little "garage" some time ago. Now it`s more :lol:

BTW: Reedy are the best for me

Enjoy
Raimund

Awesome collection Raimund.

[sheriff]

This is a really nice thread! I also love old style motors and here are some impressions from my little "garage" some time ago. Now it`s more :lol:

BTW: Reedy are the best for me

Enjoy
Raimund


Wow Raimund!!

You may be able to help me. I have an old LRP motor, with a pink dot on it with 'E' on it. Does that mean anything to you?

Cheers

Nick

[spru]

Thank you very much for your nice words!

Sure can I help with LRP-motors. I collect them and have a good number of them. I took me a while to get details for the old series but now I have vintage LRP catalogues with all informations :thumbsup:

I`ve included a PDF-file with all motors from the Grand Prix II and X-Generation series. If you need technical details I can make a scan from the catalogue page.

Greetings
Raimund

[DerbyDan]

What an amazing collection Raimund.... its all those Trinity motors that gets me excited, as although I started racing in the late 80s those represent the 90s era in which I enjoyed greater success, racing with my 2wd Losi XX - Trinity was always my prefered choice for motors & batteries :cool:

I've got a little selection of vintage motors including a couple of Kinwald Dirtinators - a D3.5 NIP, a NIP Trinity Slot Machine, a new Revolution stock (that resides in my JRX2 shelfer), A Demon Power King Stock, A Reedy Mr series in my YZ-10 Masami, a Reedy Qs stocker & last but not least an MG Orange Dot, which the first non silvercan Mabuchi type motor Bitd :)

[spru]

Hi DerbyDan,

nice to hear that you also enjoy vintage motors. They are absolutely fascinating and I love to work on them, skim them, tune them, everything! Brushless is nice but brushed is much more, you get a real relation to each motor you tweak :blush:
I also raced back in the 90`s. My first car was a RC10 worlds car with a Reedy Sonic M, Aitronics 94151 servo, MIP CVD, RCPS turnbuckles, ...... Later I exchanged the original chassis for a Fibre lyte carbon chassis. Man this was light and stiff. Sadly I sold everything to get money for a Losi XX-CR. Finaly I must say the RC10 was harder to drive but had more sole. Now I have again 2 RC10 worlds, one RC10 similar to the worlds but without the origingal chassis - my race baby - and since shortly my first truck a RC10T. I`m going to post more pics from my motors and my cars.

For now here is a photo from a `94 LRP-catalogue about the Grand Prix MKII motor serie

Kind regards
Raimund

[optiman]

Hi DerbyDan,

nice to hear that you also enjoy vintage motors. They are absolutely fascinating and I love to work on them, skim them, tune them, everything! Brushless is nice but brushed is much more, you get a real relation to each motor you tweak :blush:........

Kind regards
Raimund

Ladys and Gents, and that's how you drive down a 4" nail with just one blow!
Well said!!!

Brushless are great, but that is somtehing that maybe it should have never existed. It's like RTR's, I mean is great that you can buy, open the box and race it within minutes, but where the hell is the fun in that?!
Racing R/C's are a hobby period. You need to build, tune and mantain them. By doing so you get involved in it, you cherish it, you literally fall in love with your machine... That's what happened to us... Do you really think that the new generation will get as consumed and passionate of the RTR's they buy as we did?(general question) No, I dont think so. Part or main reason of the passion I have for vintages are the good memories they bring back to me... Building my first Optima with my father, racing and repairing them with other kids, tunning(basically messing with the spring brushess lol) the motor, etc...
You just dont see that with RTR's and brushless. If the RTR gets broken they usually leave it at the hobby shop for repairs and brushless motors usually never go down.
Oh, I love comms, magnets, winds, brushess and timming. I love to build my own motor and get every inch of power out of it in the dyno.
What I do NOT love is winding perfectly a custom 15t triple and get distracted for a second and loss count of the winds!!!!!! Lol Hate that!! Arrrgg

[NeilD]

Ladys and Gents, and that's how you drive down a 4" nail with just one blow!
Well said!!!

Brushless are great, but that is somtehing that maybe it should have never existed. It's like RTR's, I mean is great that you can buy, open the box and race it within minutes, but where the hell is the fun in that?!
Racing R/C's are a hobby period. You need to build, tune and mantain them. By doing so you get involved in it, you cherish it, you literally fall in love with your machine... That's what happened to us... Do you really think that the new generation will get as consumed and passionate of the RTR's they buy as we did?(general question) No, I dont think so. Part or main reason of the passion I have for vintages are the good memories they bring back to me... Building my first Optima with my father, racing and repairing them with other kids, tunning(basically messing with the spring brushess lol) the motor, etc...
You just dont see that with RTR's and brushless. If the RTR gets broken they usually leave it at the hobby shop for repairs and brushless motors usually never go down.
Oh, I love comms, magnets, winds, brushess and timming. I love to build my own motor and get every inch of power out of it in the dyno.
What I do NOT love is winding perfectly a custom 15t triple and get distracted for a second and loss count of the winds!!!!!! Lol Hate that!! Arrrgg

I'm with both of you on this. I really miss the good old days.

[bretts]

I'm with both of you on this. I really miss the good old days.

Hey Neil, I'm still running Checkpoint motors. Peter even had some Infinity brushes.:lol::lol::lol:

[Sparky]

Old SRM Motor with a fragile ceramic shaft:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rccar/oople/DSC_1772.JPG

And an old ESC that was sat in the box next to it:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rccar/oople/DSC_1773.JPG

Motor probably from early 90's and the ESC mid 80's?

Sparky

[racingdwarf]

I'm going to have to have a dig about in the loft after looking at this:lol:

Sure I have some old nosram esc's I should have some LRP orange AE's I may still have an original LRP esc, the one in heat shrink before the plastic box and I know there are some old SRM scorchers and demon motors.

And some tanaplan stuff

[NeilD]

Hey Neil, I'm still running Checkpoint motors. Peter even had some Infinity brushes.:lol::lol::lol:


Hi Brett, the last brushed motors I had were Checkpoint, 12x2 and a 10x2. Both were super fast.

[Crashtest33]

Love my midnight. In my ZX-RR now.

[optiman]

Old SRM Motor with a fragile ceramic shaft:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rccar/oople/DSC_1772.JPG



Sparky

Wow ceramic shaft... that is a first one for me!!!!!!:o
Do you have the specs on that motor?

[Naushad]

Race prep is the only other motor I know with a ceramic shaft

[Durango]

Does anyone know this one?

Got it with an acquired RC10T...I haven't found any informations about this.

http://666kb.com/i/ciqkegrckjwh2pdct.jpg

[oli4ke]

Trinity Monster Horsepower 85-87 Worlds

http://joppis.dyndns.org/misc/trinity_monster_horsepower_8587.jpg

Lovely engine, brings back some nice memory's....
I raced this engine many years on ice surface and must say, this engine was very fast and also very expensive! I think it was 6000bfr = 150euro back in the days!

[DerbyDan]

I completely agree that the tuning and maintenace of brushed motors was a skill that was once a large part of racing which with the inception of brushless motors has now been lost...

But I've got to admit that I don't particularly miss it, I'm now older & have more responsibilities & I'm glad that I can just pick up my car on a Tuesday night & race it without worrying about motor prep, skimming, changing brushes etc just to be able to keep up. I like the fact that you can now buy more power/speed than you can handle straight over the counter... there was nothing more frustrating than timing the top sponsored drivers down the straight & realising that they were gaining nearly a second just by driving in a straight line!

[bretts]

Found these on ebay....

Item no: 281200035123 & 281200025016 & 181252948299 & 151154464661

[SHY]

Subscribed! :thumbsup:

[Mike Haswell]

Durango - Dingo motors from what I remember were made by Ralf Krause, a German racer.

The Race Prep was an AYK based motor and SRM did a relabeling job on them. I think I have one in the loft somewhere - got the shaft broken on one of them too!

And I also have one of those Trinitys too - 1 12double that I ran at '92 Pro-10 Worlds at the Ranch Pit Shop.

[optiman]

Hi,
I need some help; I am restoring an old RC10 of a friend of mine, well not quite a restore since I am giving it the HD-Pro roll cage treatment, but rather installing new plastic parts, dyeing black everything and a failed attempt to find a cheap Reedy Mr. R motor on ebay. The Mr. R motor was the motor he had installed on the RC10 during his childhood, so I want to give him the surprise. I instead of finding the Mr. R I found this (pic below). So I am going to build the Mr. R motor using spare parts and wind the correct armture, and here is where I need help. I need to know the motor specs; what kind of brushes(lay down or standing), cross cut, serrated, etc.. and the winds # and turns, machined wind or hand wind, soft/hard springs. It does not has to be spot on, but the closer to the real thing the better. After I finish the motor I am going to slap the Mr. R sticker and tell him a white lie ;) He dosent has to know and he will be a happy man :p.

I just found out is a 16 turn, but still need to know how many winds and the other details.
Thanks in advance!

[spru]

Hi,

the Reedy Mr. R`s is a 16x3 wind with stand up brushes. I`ve also included a Reedy sheet from Mr. motors and the total list of available winds back at that glory days :)
Mr ?'s520 10x2 Mr Y's519 10x3 Mr I's 10X4 Mr X's515 10x4 Mr O's517 11x2 Mr T's510 11x3Mr W's 11X3 Mr G's518 11x4 Mr !'s522 12x1 Mr BK's 12x2Mr S's516 12x2 Mr H's507 12x3 Mr J's505 12x4 Mr M's512 13x2 Mr E's506 13x3 Mr C's504 13x4 Mr L's509 14x2 Mr A's508 14x3Mr D's503 14x4 Mr Q's523 15x2 Mr B's514 15x3 Mr F's513 15x4 Mr Z's521 16x2 Mr R's502 16x3 Mr V's 16X4 Mr K's501 17x4 Mr N's511 19x3


Greetings
Raimund

P.S.: You still wind armatures? Do you offer this service to others also?

[optiman]

Thank's Spru!!!
I do wind them from time to time for myself, but nothing that I would feel comfortable doing for others since I am no Jim Dieter, even less charging $$!!! LOL

[Moozo]

I have two mr 'r's one of them has a Ali endbell
Have to get a pic up

Mick

[Moozo]

Pic of the motors

[Moozo]

Another

[Dale Goodchild]

No ones mentioned the Extreme range that was available through HML yet? I used a fair few of those in my oval time.

Or the other good one was the Longman Torque Stock.

Had this post come up about a year back i still had loads of motors but threw them all out :cry: damn brushless

[isobarik]

I dont have any brushless stuff nimh and brushed still works for me and they look better to.

Mvh isobarik

[Cobra]

Came across this whilst clearing some drawers out

I use to have some Reedy in a can Power Spray, unable to find that

[optiman]

For those of you that might be looking for and elusive HPI UNO motor, here is one in ebay;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-uno-modified-rc-car-motor-brushed-/171184759644?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item27db68235c

[NeilD]

For those of you that might be looking for and elusive HPI UNO motor, here is one in ebay;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-uno-modified-rc-car-motor-brushed-/171184759644?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item27db68235c

Nice find.

[Ndarby]

Does anyone have a brushed motor for sale circa 1996/97. Its for a cougar 2000. Reedy sonic, lrp, corally ....anything considered.

Neil

[arpari]

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/1802/i5q3.JPG

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/7677/e99a.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/5733/owfq.jpg

[Chillout47]

I am looking for a new or nearly new Kinwald motor for a XXX restore, anyone got anything? If I can't get a Kinwald a nice Trinity off road motor would suffice. Ta.

[optiman]

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/7677/e99a.jpg



Wow, how in earth you did'nt had a short with those wires running so close to each other??!!

[arpari]

I suppose:good luck!!!

[Twister]

Ah them le mans motors are like pieces of art:wub

[Miggers]

I dont have any brushless stuff nimh and brushed still works for me and they look better to.

Mvh isobarik


Me too,my "Boss" (AKA the Mrs) wouldn't sanction the funds for brushless/LiPo
anyway.

I have a blue and silver Parma Cyclone Stock 27t,a 19x1 Komodo Dragon and
a 17x2 TMS Challenger.

Great fun to strip and clean then "tweak".
They make the old 'Rat 'boxed Mardave-ish CobRat go well enough.

[ralphee]

Wow, how in earth you did'nt had a short with those wires running so close to each other??!!

Thats how the Cyclone and Atom are configured buddy, not a worry as a good install means they can't short without intervention, the Cyclone, best ESC ever made IMO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/ralphee/SAM_1309_zpsa4a2498b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ralphee/media/SAM_1309_zpsa4a2498b.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/ralphee/SAM_1302_zps76bc20ec.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ralphee/media/SAM_1302_zps76bc20ec.jpg.html)

lee

[optiman]

Thats how the Cyclone and Atom are configured buddy, not a worry as a good install means they can't short without intervention, the Cyclone, best ESC ever made IMO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/ralphee/SAM_1309_zpsa4a2498b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ralphee/media/SAM_1309_zpsa4a2498b.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/ralphee/SAM_1302_zps76bc20ec.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ralphee/media/SAM_1302_zps76bc20ec.jpg.html)

lee

Thanks for the enlightment Lee, by the way those buggys of yours are jaw dropping :drool:

[optiman]

Here is my slowly growing Kyosho Le Mans motor collection. Also working in a wall display complete with ilumination.:thumbsup:

[optiman]

And some of the motor boxes...

[micholix]

Hi vintage and brushed motor fans, i've got a fiew motors in a bundle of an yokomo yz-10 and a bundle some other vintage electric stuff and can not find some info about the production years and windings of som of the motors.

Got three of the LRP motors with my car, two of them have the electronic letters in silver and one in blue.

May someone can clarify?

Thx in advance
Mike

[micholix]

... And here ar the others!

I could indentify the reedy motors, but not the team kinwald trinity once.
One is new and unused and does have an paper sticker on it, that sayes 10 turns, but not how many wires were used.

[dinglem]

Old SRM Motor with a fragile ceramic shaft:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rccar/oople/DSC_1772.JPG

Motor probably from early 90's and the ESC mid 80's?

Sparky

I had one of those SRM Scorcher motors also.... was SILENT when running in the car. I think i might have tracked it down in a motor collection my good racing friend from bitd sent me a few days ago.... i'll have to check it out. Don't recall it ever having a ceramic shaft though.... I must have given it to him. I'd love to find another.

Here's my motor collection. There's a bit of a mix in here, including many (MANY!) MG standard motors as I was sponsored by them through the late 80's and early 90's. First one was the Brown Dot from '88 looking at the labels. There are also a couple of the lovely looking Demon units (one standard and one a 16T) - always loved their labels, Red Dots, Pinks, and even an MG Exterminator. Lots of Reedy Modifieds, and two almost unused LRP's withe matching tubs; a White E and a Blue SE. My Yoke also has a newish looking Reedy Ultra Sonic in it from the last time I raced it also.

[Welshy40]

Nice, ive got a couple of still in packet Mr series motors plus a couple Mike worked on which are still in great nick. Ones wired to my Worlds 91 RC10 & other to my Lazer ZXS Worlds Proto With Tekin 410k and have a Corally wired into my YZ10 with Tekin 410k. Two more Tekin 410ks to decide on which cars they go into, these were far superior and gave more top end compared to the Novak Cyclone, but like the cyclone due to the solder posts which Tekin copied on their next escs so may fit into my Bosscat with another Reedy Mr motor.

[dinglem]

Sounds like you have a few nice set-ups there.

I am thinking i will most likely mount up the MG motors in any shelf builds i complete, seeing as they hold the most nostalgia for me. The pink dots kind of jump out as well! All in sound condition too, looking at them. I definitely need to source a Scorcher after reading this thread as well - i know my mate has one (still think it is my old one) so that is on my hit list for sure.

[dinglem]

B&R Bullet Pro, looks to be in immaculate condition. Very lightly used anyway. I barely remember having this bitd, but reading up on them now they had a highly-strung 44deg advance. Quick for a standard 27T....! Did anybody else run one of these?

[dinglem]

Selection of MG's.

[dinglem]

This one just surfaced, and I have been looking for it for a while. I remember buying this to go into my Meteor for carpet/tarmac racing. It's a Reedy Silver Dot (21 Double). I still have the armature for it, thankfully. Went like an absolute rocket and could really be geared high. Took a while to wind up but boy did it have some top end!!!

Strange label - must have been re-branded and sold on by Schumacher?

[johnny_0]

Some of mine:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tjhxIpLLzy8/VM8wddRET8I/AAAAAAAALPU/rzuogTW9w48/s1600/IMGP4286.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y6GKazCvuz8/U1DOL3B5j5I/AAAAAAAAIsU/edQKP76t024/s1600/IMGP1369.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5-iZlzmDWOI/UB9xBVCIRSI/AAAAAAAADSs/_o4nTruPv7g/s1600/IMGP6400.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4hP3bvWGZg8/Um4c--GKNpI/AAAAAAAAHEE/eEaBKRlXuN0/s1600/IMGP9257.JPG

[dinglem]

Few more motors and details.

First up a pair of LRP offerings. I barely ran these, and they still have their original storage tubs. The top one is a White E (15 Double) and the bottom one is a Blue SE (13 Triple).

Next up a pair of Cobra standard 27T motors, again only lightly used for i think part of the 1990 race season.

Schumacher Gold Nova, which I believe is a 14 Double. Very nice looking label.

Very minty looking gold label Demon Power King - 12 Double.

More details of some of my MG's, including my treasured '88 Brown Dot.

[dinglem]

Race Prep ceramic shaft armature, which also came with the can and endbell.

I have a selection of Reedy motors too, including a Mr.D (14 Quad), and three of the older 'Dot' varieties, i think they were called the Colour Series(?).... can't recall which ones and don't have them in front of me, but i also have the Silver Dot mentioned earlier in this thread. I seem to recall one of them being a 'Yellow Dot' and another a 'Red Dot'? I will have to check. I also have apair of Revolution motors, a 15 Double (Insane) and a 17 Double (Jr's Choice).

The last ever motor I purchased was a Reedy Ultra Sonic 'S' which was a 12 Double. I brought it for my last ever race meeting, and it still sits in the car meaning it has only every run 4 heats and a final. I also have the original packaging for that motor, and it is in perfect condition.

Purple MG Exterminator (no idea on spec of that off the top of my head), a TMS Tornado 13 Double, and a very clean and lightly used Trinity 'Monster Horsepower' standard.

[OptimaFan]

A while ago I got some used brushed motors from someone, in order to use in some vintage runners, which I wanted to keep brushed. I did some initial testing and installed a few in cars, the rest was stored for parts. I'll see if I can shoot some pics one of these days.

[Welshy40]

What about Shark Attack motors, it didnt last long but I made fifth in the indoor British national finals in 93 or 94 with that as they gave me a motor and a drive and was crazy accelaration with a mediocre top end so tried a 14s against my normal wind a 10d and beat a few of the worlds qualifiers with it in the A so were quite good.

[Welshy40]

B&R Bullet Pro, looks to be in immaculate condition. Very lightly used anyway. I barely remember having this bitd, but reading up on them now they had a highly-strung 44deg advance. Quick for a standard 27T....! Did anybody else run one of these?

Possibly Jon Leonard and Matthew Witney did as that looks very familiar, and as I pitted around those two almost every week is highly possible.

[Welshy40]

Now I did have one of these as well, also cant recall what wind either or what it went into.

[dinglem]

Possibly Jon Leonard and Matthew Witney did as that looks very familiar, and as I pitted around those two almost every week is highly possible.

Got an RRC mag here (Dec '91) with a results table showing Jon Leonard, Jon Latus, Ant Hill and Roy Rogers all using B&R Magnum standards. Matthew Hodgeson also won that race using a B&R Bullet Pro. So half of the A Finalists!

[Welshy40]

Blimey, have a browse through those mags as im in quite a few fabiix ads.

[dinglem]

December '91.

[Welshy40]

Mate, so many names Jerry Jones, Partridge, Gardiner, Leonard and who can forget possibly at that time the most successful carpet racer Craig Harris. He beat all of the A team of Kyosho in Blackwood if I recall with a Bosscat and Fabiix cells. He could drive a brick quicker than most so had a lot to do to get to his level. I raced against regularly all the names on that list, but I think I got the drive a little later on as he made a banner for one of my first few events using his cells and won the A and they added F and L to make F.L.Instone, very funny and it stuck.

[Rs fruitbat]

Mate, so many names Jerry Jones, Partridge, Gardiner, Leonard and who can forget possibly at that time the most successful carpet racer Craig Harris. He beat all of the A team of Kyosho in Blackwood if I recall with a Bosscat and Fabiix cells. He could drive a brick quicker than most so had a lot to do to get to his level. I raced against regularly all the names on that list, but I think I got the drive a little later on as he made a banner for one of my first few events using his cells and won the A and they added F and L to make F.L.Instone, very funny and it stuck.


Craig is still producing the goods after all these years .

This is the latest result from the WRCA 2017 off road series .


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/kevfenrich/D3F7223C-AC65-415B-B618-028CB96C9027_zpsqy20zbxb.png (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/kevfenrich/media/D3F7223C-AC65-415B-B618-028CB96C9027_zpsqy20zbxb.png.html)

[Welshy40]

Craig is still producing the goods after all these years .

This is the latest result from the WRCA 2017 off road series .


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/kevfenrich/D3F7223C-AC65-415B-B618-028CB96C9027_zpsqy20zbxb.png (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/kevfenrich/media/D3F7223C-AC65-415B-B618-028CB96C9027_zpsqy20zbxb.png.html)

Afro is on the list!!! Superb, give Glynn my regards when you see him. Still loads of names still doing the league that I know and yes Craigs still got it.

[Rs fruitbat]

Afro is on the list!!! Superb, give Glynn my regards when you see him. Still loads of names still doing the league that I know and yes Craigs still got it.

Will do mate :thumbsup:

[TurboLag]

Just got my hands on a Demon Power modified motor. Is says: 'Quad Wind on the label'. Anyone know how many turns this is?

[Welshy40]

Unsure it should have a number next to it, like this example 12 quad or 12 double or 12 triple.

[dinglem]

Just got my hands on a Demon Power modified motor. Is says: 'Quad Wind on the label'. Anyone know how many turns this is?

Have you got any pictures please? I have 3 of these (2 Demon Power - Red, and 1 Power King - Gold) and none have any wind info on the label i don't think. I have seen some very different label versions with a check background though, which might be something different to what i recall.

[TurboLag]

Have you got any pictures please? I have 3 of these (2 Demon Power - Red, and 1 Power King - Gold) and none have any wind info on the label i don't think. I have seen some very different label versions with a check background though, which might be something different to what i recall.


Don't know if this can shed any light on the subject?

[dinglem]

I will have to try to dig out my 16 Triple Demon and check the label again. I can't really recall any winding info on it, but then it is all a little hazy. Anybody else got an example? I know my gold Power King (12 Double) has nothing.

[TurboLag]

Anyone know the specs of a 'Schumacher Pink Power' ?

[Pete k]

I have a power king modified for sale on ebay pics included, label is a 4x12 if you take them apart you can count the winds to the com which is the 4 part I could almost count all 12 coils around the stator, make note of the timing, pull back the brushes and just 2 screws need to be removed to reveal the armature, i called the number on the motor and spoke to a very knowledgeable guy if you need more info give them a call.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332452342732?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

[CHEVY]

I think pink power 16x2 gold nova14x2 red heat 19x2

[dinglem]

Demon 27T Single standard, 16 Triple and a gold label 12 Double Power King. The very last well worn one is my original 'first motor purchase' 27T standard from bitd. Note the 16 Triple has the winding info on the label.

[TurboLag]

I think pink power 16x2 gold nova14x2 red heat 19x2

Just had a look at a parts list:

Gold Nova 14x2
Pink Power 15x2
Red Heat 17x1

[TurboLag]

Think I have a few nice vintage motors now :D

Have a couple of other Demon motors and a Schumacher Pink Power installed somewhere...

[dinglem]

I have posted this up in a few other places, but just adding it here for completeness for the motor library.

Having pretty much finished my SG Coyote build I have been on the look out for an Italian 'Mustang' motor for it. I am sure not too many folks in the UK will have heard of these (I hadn't until I stared looking at the Coyote), but it seems they developed a fearsome reputation over in Italy in the mid to late 80's, being were customized/tuned by a chap by the name of Umberto Milanesi - dubbed as the Italian equivalent to Mike Reedy. I have been sent a race report from the '86 European Championships (A Final tech sheet below) which gives both Milanesi and Mustang a mention, and Coyote team driver Umberto Pernice qualified 2nd behind Phil Davies and ahead of Jamie Booth at the same event the following year, again using Mustang power in his Coyote. I finally got my hands on one, this being a 15 Triple. I would be very interested if anybody happens to have any more information on these motors. I have recently sourced a mobile phone number for Umberto Milanesi so I also hope to gather a little more information from him if I can. I haven't seen another example pop up so far...

[dinglem]

Next up, a bit of a rarity. This is a Reedy BK Select 12 Double, a motor which has quite a story behind it.

I have hunted down quite a bit of information, which points to this having been almost released then prevented from being so due to Brian Kinwald defecting over to Losi/Trinity some 4 months after the '93 Basildon Worlds win. Basically Trinity threatened to sue Reedy, preventing any sales. The idea for this motor was conceived after his win and each unit was supposedly a direct replica of the spec he used to win the WC. Just as it was about to be released to the public Trinity stepped in and prevented them from going on sale, so they were rumoured to have been sent out to the team drivers and production ceased. I sourced this directly from our very own ex-team Reedy driver Jimmy Davis who backed up this story. He tells me he only ever raced it twice after the great man himself posted it over to him. I have since tracked down two others, both of which were also sourced from ex-Team Reedy drivers.

I have been informed that there were a couple of mag articles on this motor at the time over in the US detailing the internal brush and winding tweaks made to match the Kinwald spec, so if anybody has anything on this I would really appreciate seeing a copy. I would guess RCCA editions from late '93 into early '94 perhaps? If anybody knows more accurate info then I would love to have your input.

Either way it is a very rare and cool piece of RC history.

[Welshy40]

Wow, more rare than my motor. Nice find.

[dinglem]

Yeah both pretty rare i think. The Mustang took a bit of hunting down as i was specifically looking for one, but the BK dropped into my lap when i was given first refusal on it out of the blue before it was posted elsewhere. I didn't even know what it was initially, until i read up on it.

[tyreman]

Does anyone remember the Shark Attack motors, or actually have one?

[Tenz78]

Does anyone remember the Shark Attack motors, or actually have one?

Yep. A few of us used their motors back in the mid 90's.

[Welshy40]

Yup, I was a team driver and made fifth in the British indoor championships with a 14 single and 2nd in the Welsh Championships. They were rather good.

[tyreman]

I used to use a 14x2 in my cat 2000 and tq’ed the mcca finals at Mallory park, I’d love to actually find one for my shelf car.