Lazer zxr

[Ema]

Thank you for your helpful answers.
Is the layshaft of the ZX-R the same as the layshaft of the ZX-RR?


No, they are different.


The manual about the ZX-RR contains the ZX-R manual and two aditional sides (supplemantary instuction manual). Insinde there is no different part numer for the hyperclutch-layshaft. On the pictures it looks ab bit different.


I think there is some misunderstanding here.
The Zx-r manual with the two addendum is the Zx-r MKII, basically a Zx-r version with a longer top dec but the standard Zx-r slipper.
The hyper clutch is a different one.

Check carefully all the Zx series manuals and I'm sure you will figure out what I am saying.

Lazer Zx:
- http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_4/lazer_zx.pdf

Lazer Zx-r (with MKII addendum):
http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_23/lazer_zx-r.pdf

Lazer Zx-rr supplement (hyper clutch and equalizer shocks):
http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_105/lazer_zx-rr_supplement.pdf

Lazer Alpha 2000 (cheapest Lazer version):
- http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_27/alpha_lazer.pdf

Lazer Zx-sport (cheap Lazer version):
http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_117/lazer_zx_sport_english_manual.pdf

Bye
Ema

[RalfM]

Hi Ema,

thank you for quick answering. I took the papers in the attachmend.
http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/manuel/kyosho_23/lazer_zx-r.pdf
There was shown the hyperclutch. So I thought it is the bridge from the
basic ZR-R to the ZX-RR with hyperclutch.:cry:

The second link in your list ist the " normal Lazer ZX-R", I have assableled severl times some years ago.
I can not find an MKII addenum, it looks like des basic ZX-R in this maual, the manual has no aditional pages.
This is the reason, why the two pages in the attchment seemed to be the direct upgrade - with hyperclutch.

I will follow your adwise an take a look at the different manuals.

Thank you very much for your patience, I m sorry for my stupid questions.

Regards
Ralf

[rob m]

Ralf M, If you have a lazer zx layshaft and the la59 lazer zxr slipper/drive plates, all you need to do is file a flat in the zx layshaft for the grubscrew in the zxr slipper/drive plates to tighten against.
Then like james said get some associated high torque pads (part number 91170) and trim about 2mm of each flat to fit the kyosho spur gear.

This is what i have used for months with 6.5t brushless and lipo with no issues.

[RalfM]

Hi rob m,

thank you, that sounds good:woot:. I think you meen the LA-56 (Drive Hub Set),the LA-59 I have not found on the explodet view in the ZX-R manual.
I will look for a new LA-56 (or LA-59, if I`m not right). (edit)

Regards
Ralf M

PS: Thanks ofcourse to all other helping guys. Nice forum!

[rob m]

Hi rob m,

thank you, that sounds good:woot:. I think you meen the LA-56 (Drive Hub Set),the LA-59 I have not found on the explodet view in the ZX-R manual.
May be the slipperparts from the kyosho triumph I got can be used with this aditional flatet point on the layshaft from my ZX. Otherwise I will look for a new LA-56 (or LA-59, if I`m not right).

Regards
Ralf M

PS: Thanks ofcourse to all other helping guys. Nice forum! yes your right la56. Can still buy them from ebay uk.

[RalfM]

Hi guys,

I am still thinking about getting a slipper in my Lazer ZX, I will try the advise from rob m.
Putting a flat spot on the ZX-layshaft to fix LA-56 with the screw an using the slipperpads.

But there is still an interesting question. How will the Lazer ZX works with a combination
of LA-6 (Type1) or LAW-4 (called Type 3 in the Lazer ZX manual) instead the LA-56?

If I understand it correctly, the Type 1 with LA-6 oneway gives more power to the front-wheels, when the front-wheels start spinning. Type 3 oneway rear (LAW-4) works in the other direction and gives more power to the rear- wheels. LA-6 and LAW-4 are not fixed on the layshaft by using a screw.

Now the question; how will it work in comination with the slipperpads instead of the diff-balls?
Different power to the rear or front during the slipping-time? So it´s no more a 3.diff ?!.

Does it makes any sence?

In a very old thread in onother forum (2004), I read a posting from welshy about the relation front to rear 50:50, or 60:40 however the 3.diff is loose or tightend via using LA-6 or LAW-4.

I have modified an paricular explodet view to show you, what I mean.

Be sure, that I will be very happy about your helpful answers or advises.

Regards
Ralf

[rob m]

I think i know what you mean. Are you wanting to know how the drive to the wheels would be if the grub scew was removed from the la56 ( not fixed to layshaft ) compared to the la56 being fixed to layshaft?

My guess would be that the drive would go to the lightest wheel.

How about this idea, remove grub screw from the la56 and use 1 associated high torque slipper pad ( part number 91170 ) on one side of spur and use 1 associated white slipper pad ( part number 9603 ) on the other side of the spur gear, this way the end with the high torque pad will get more drive. Doing this will not just send the drive to the lightest wheel as easy, it will give the drive something like a 60/40 split and should be less likely to go to the lightest wheels.

[Welshy40]

First of all i have LA8 and LA55 layshafts so will be up for a trade for one pair of OT16 alloy version for the Lazer ZX or two of the OT16 plastic versions for the ZXR so let me know what layshaft you want.

Secondly the zx slipper system was at its time superb but as Terry has also said its now out of date and too complex. Yes i got on with it but rebuilds were a pain as it was a pain to get the setting right. Better to get the newer version where its 50/50 drive train and some like me prefer the one way which is a benefit if you dont use the brakes or if using brakes tighten the one way for total four wheel drive.

[rob m]

ive just got the 3 racing zx5 knuckles from ebay. They are identical and will work but i did have to machine .85mm off the lower king pin boss. Just waiting in them to be anodized black.

[RalfM]

Hi,

thanky you rob m and welshy for the fast reply and explanation and especally for your offer abouth the layshaft, welshy.

if I have all missed orders together and the postman has delivered the ZX-RR, I will proof an give a feedback.

PS: Normaly the technik at my other hobby is a bit bigger, also the screws and bolts:
http://www.ralfmeierwolfhagen.de/15202/26753.html
http://www.ralfmeierwolfhagen.de/15202/30253.html

best regards

RalfM

[Welshy40]

Ralf, its been twenty years since my last ride on a bike, but i like, side car is great for the dog.

[RalfM]

Welshy: Yes my dogs love motorbikes and sidecar, especally the travels in their trailer. To legalize such a single-wheeltrailer behind a sindecar or a motorbike is in germany very difficult.

Back to the lazer-theme:

My ZX-RR arrived in very poor condition. But the hyerclutch, the spurgear, front and gearbox, the diffs are ok and I transplantated them ton my ZX.
The motorplate is a little smaller. I had not time enough to test it together with a 10T brushless Tacon-Motor.

How ist the quality of the equalizer-shocks from the ZX-RR?
Better, equal or lower quality as the golden shocks?

Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

The equalizer shocks are just as good. I think you will prefer them. They are basically identical in design to the kyosho shocks that are being sold now.

Welshy: Yes my dogs love motorbikes and sidecar, especally the travels in their trailer. To legalize such a single-wheeltrailer behind a sindecar or a motorbike is in germany very difficult.

Back to the lazer-theme:

My ZX-RR arrived in very poor condition. But the hyerclutch, the spurgear, front and gearbox, the diffs are ok and I transplantated them ton my ZX.
The motorplate is a little smaller. I had not time enough to test it together with a 10T brushless Tacon-Motor.

How ist the quality of the equalizer-shocks from the ZX-RR?
Better, equal or lower quality as the golden shocks?

Regards
Ralf

[RalfM]

I have now three different low budget brushless motors
1. ezrun 13T with finned cam (380 inner size)
2. ezrun 10T with finned cam (380 inner size)
3. Tacon 10T (540er size)

The 1oT ezrun has more KV (3900 watt unknown??) labelt as the 10T Tacon (3500 and 900 watt).
Which one would be better (faster?)
I think, the Tacon has more torque, cause he is bigger and has more weight.
But whats about topspeed?
My ESC has only 60a.
I put a similar question any days ago in the electric-forum but did not get an answer.

Have a good start in the next week!

Regard
Ralf

[Welshy40]

Ralf, im not certain your esc is good enough for the job, mine has several hundred amps and would advise buying a better esc with motor.

Ive an LRP SXXTC and is superb and cannot fault it or any LRP products as they work really well, but am now upgrading to an HPI Flux Pro esc with a motor and would suggest a 10t motor.

Maybe someone else may have an opinion as well as dont just take my word for it.

[adam lancia]

Hey iso, a little payback for all my Canadian brothers from the last time that you guys beat us in hockey ;)

Don't be mad :D

[Welshy40]

The match was rather good.

[Crashtest33]

:lol::lol::lol:

[adam lancia]

Speaking strictly as a fan, it was kind of boring to be honest. I would have much rather it been a back and forth game with each team trading goals along the way. That being said, if I was on the Canadian team, that's exactly how I would have wanted it to go. Just flat out dominate and come away with a win. It would have been a different game if Sedin, Backstrom and Zetterberg had played but the Swedes still would have had their hands very very full.

[RalfM]

I have assambled the hyperclutch from the damaged ZX-RR into my ZX.

Unfortunately the part no. 190 (supplement) is damaged. It seemed to be a very small trust-bearing. Can I replace this part with washers or a normal bearing?

As I have tested the hyperclutch yesterday, than was it nearly impossible, to produce enough pressure with the spring. The slipper dont stopped spinning. So I took the other springs (TM-19, they have a form like waves ans the limmiter-washer) for more pressure. Only by going this way I get the brushless 10T running. So I think it ist important, to get anough pessure on the spurgear and the combined plate (Part 192 from the supplement-view). May be the slipperpad ist to old or is wared out, I have ordered a pad for the aasociated stealth (Isobarik gave me a link)

BTW: While using the ZX-Diff and no slipper, I had a very good brake, ecpecially on the front. Now, with the 3.diff out an using the hypercluth, the brakeperformance is not as goog as before. I have nothing changed on the features brake adjustments of the esc.

Regards
Ralf

[oli4ke]

I have aassambled the hyperclutch from the damaged ZX-RR into my ZX.

Unfortunately the part no. 190 (supplement) is damaged. It seemed to be a very small trust-bearing. Can I replace this part with washers or a normal bearing?

Ralf

Hi Ralf,
Replacement for item 190 is "LA-9 Thrust bearing set". See picture mate!
PM me if you need a set...

[RalfM]

To Oli:

LA-9 is bigger as the lost trust-bearing. The lost one had the same diameter as the scatched washer. Look at the foto please!

The shown LA-9 ist out of my Lazer ZX

The layshaft of my ZX-RR has narrow the spurgear under the spring-coil a thinner size

[isobarik]

Speaking strictly as a fan, it was kind of boring to be honest. I would have much rather it been a back and forth game with each team trading goals along the way. That being said, if I was on the Canadian team, that's exactly how I would have wanted it to go. Just flat out dominate and come away with a win. It would have been a different game if Sedin, Backstrom and Zetterberg had played but the Swedes still would have had their hands very very full.


yeah when backstrom didnt got to start we really lost our last true center and "spjut spets" and with all the other set backs it didnt look that well.

i think that if hagelin had scored there in the first period not just hitting the post it would have been an different game, the more the game went on the sweedes looked more and more taken by the moment and the fact that they missed backstrom was kind of obvius.

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

To Oli:

LA-9 is bigger as the lost trust-bearing. The lost one had the same diameter as the scatched washer. Look at the foto please!

The shown LA-9 ist out of my Lazer ZX

The layshaft of my ZX-RR has narrow the spurgear under the spring-coil a thinner size

there should been an bearing, 3*6 i think and then the trust bearing

mvh Isobarik

[RalfM]

The trust-bearing sits above the other bearing. The size of the other bearing that fits in the hole of the spurgear should have 4x8, 3x6 for the trust-bearing seemed to be ok. But where can I get tis very smal trust-bearing, what is the part-number?

I dont wont to buy a complete set LAW with the hyperclutch. I think the hyperclutch should also work with washers instead the trust-bearing.:bored:

Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

Ralf,

I had to buy a thrust bearing as i lost mine, and believe the part number is posted on here. I will look later on. The spur gear bushing i have a few spare but know a shop in Germany has a few if your after them.

[oli4ke]

Ralf, I checked the instruction sheet from LAW12 for you and the partnumber from the thrust bearing shows H3051! See attachment mate.;)

"Cheapest" H3051 on ebay ==> http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/NEW-Kyosho-Concept-30-Helicopter-Tail-Rotor-Hub-Bearings-H3051-/271129688091?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2096b81b#ht_1230wt_1399

Brgds

[RalfM]

Thank you for your help, Oli and James!

Regards
Ralf

[Crashtest33]

Hi Ralf.
I've got a trust bearing left in my LAW-12 packet as it's unused in the ZX-S Evo and replaced with a brass bush.
£5 + postage to you good sir.

[Crashtest33]

Hi chaps.

Well unsurprisingly I've hit a wall with some parts for my latest ZX-S Evo build.
Some I thought were not hard to get. I need:
The LA-108 motor plate
LA-103 plastic parts &
LA-128 front hubs

So what I want to do is machine them myself but I need some measurements.
Can you guys help?
I wont worry about the hubs for now as I'm sure some'll turn up.
But these LA-103 parts are all very simple and would be a doddle to make.

Let me know if you can help.
Cheers
Nick

[RalfM]

Hi Nick,
Tank you for your offer.I would like to get your
trust-bearing. Please give mehr a PM with
your PayPal-adresse and the complete price incl shipping
to germany.
Regards
Ralf :)

[Crashtest33]

Hi peeps

These are three of the easier parts to make from LA-103 and hopefully can be measure without completely stripping a car.

No.65 from this picture in the manual.

[Crashtest33]

No.66 from this one

[Crashtest33]

And No.60 from this one.

[Crashtest33]

Hi guys

I found dimensions for Part #65 in the manual and did a quick AutoCAD render
pop the dimensions into the 'ol lathe and presto!

[alcyon]

Ran my laserlised Mid yesterday and yet again broke another front MPP lazer arm, this time I noticed the crack before catastrophic failure occurred.
I also bent one LA245 CVD at the bone area. Good news is the standard Lazer ZX aluminium rear shock tower held up fine without bending. I have opened up my last bag of LA-26 and hopefully this time these wont break. I broke my last LA-26 last early year at the inner hingepin area. I wonder if these arms go brittle over time cause I never broke them back in the day, but then again, I never drove the car this hard BITD either. I also use an oil spray to clean up the arms then rinse with water, I wonder if this WD-40 type spray is penetrating the pores in the arm's plastic and weakening it.
These original Kyosho arms are also much much stiffer than the Nylon after market ones made by MPP, trinity and RPM. Perhaps I should make my own lazer arms ..The ones I made for the Mid looks really beefy but haven't tried them out yet.
Another round of testing today !

[HKS_TRD]

Which shock tower are you running these days and how many more of those MPP arms do you have left?

I could use a set for my shelfer tub if you want to sell some new ones rather than have them break in action

[alcyon]

Which shock tower are you running these days and how many more of those MPP arms do you have left?

I could use a set for my shelfer tub if you want to sell some new ones rather than have them break in action

I have 4 bags of MPP arms left. You are welcome to have them all. One bag contains 4 arms, 2 fronts and 2 rears. If I do need to copy Lazer arms I will copy the Kyosho originals, question is , black or white ?:cry:
I believe my old LA-26 may have broke because I used RCPS titanium hingepins which were 3.175mm diameter, resulting in me having to drill out the arms to fit these hingepins. Maybe this may have weakened the arm.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140220_174315_zps8cbbffc2.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140220_174315_zps8cbbffc2.jpg.html)this is a pic of my machined optima mid front arm. From touch, I feel this arm is very beefy and strong. Dare I say stronger than the Kyoshos.

[Welshy40]

Ran my laserlised Mid yesterday and yet again broke another front MPP lazer arm, this time I noticed the crack before catastrophic failure occurred.
I also bent one LA245 CVD at the bone area. Good news is the standard Lazer ZX aluminium rear shock tower held up fine without bending. I have opened up my last bag of LA-26 and hopefully this time these wont break. I broke my last LA-26 last early year at the inner hingepin area. I wonder if these arms go brittle over time cause I never broke them back in the day, but then again, I never drove the car this hard BITD either. I also use an oil spray to clean up the arms then rinse with water, I wonder if this WD-40 type spray is penetrating the pores in the arm's plastic and weakening it.
These original Kyosho arms are also much much stiffer than the Nylon after market ones made by MPP, trinity and RPM. Perhaps I should make my own lazer arms ..The ones I made for the Mid looks really beefy but haven't tried them out yet.
Another round of testing today !

Wd40 is a bad move as it attracts dirt and learnt this lesson at the Basildon worlds warm ups. GT85 is what is needed but doubt the wd40 has caused this. Age does help as ive managed to break a kevlar reinforced wishbone as well. If your going to make one make sure they dont have holes through the wishbone as that way it will give it a lot more strength

[alcyon]

Wd40 is a bad move as it attracts dirt and learnt this lesson at the Basildon worlds warm ups. GT85 is what is needed but doubt the wd40 has caused this. Age does help as ive managed to break a kevlar reinforced wishbone as well. If your going to make one make sure they dont have holes through the wishbone as that way it will give it a lot more strength

When you meant dont have holes..which area do you mean ? I find that the capped arm design like how the shock ends are captured in the arms are strong and trouble free. The last la26 front arm that i broke was at the inner hingepin area and now where else. For the optima mid front arms i always broke them where the shocks mount.
I have never broke any rear arms on either on my mid or lazer though.

[Welshy40]

On the white wishbone picture the triangular area is what i would fill in giving a bit more strength. To be honest having a solid white chunk of a wishbone on front and rear on my lazer would look and be superb.

[HKS_TRD]

I have 4 bags of MPP arms left. You are welcome to have them all. One bag contains 4 arms, 2 fronts and 2 rears. If I do need to copy Lazer arms I will copy the Kyosho originals, question is , black or white ?:cry:
I believe my old LA-26 may have broke because I used RCPS titanium hingepins which were 3.175mm diameter, resulting in me having to drill out the arms to fit these hingepins. Maybe this may have weakened the arm.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140220_174315_zps8cbbffc2.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140220_174315_zps8cbbffc2.jpg.html)this is a pic of my machined optima mid front arm. From touch, I feel this arm is very beefy and strong. Dare I say stronger than the Kyoshos.

Are the arms white or black and do they have provision for the sway bars?
I'm interested in a new set of four if you could send a pic so I can see if they take the sway bars, the RPM arms on the Mid can't accept the sway bars but for the project I'll use the MPP arms on I plan to use sway bars

[alcyon]

Are the arms white or black and do they have provision for the sway bars?
I'm interested in a new set of four if you could send a pic so I can see if they take the sway bars, the RPM arms on the Mid can't accept the sway bars but for the project I'll use the MPP arms on I plan to use sway bars

The MPP arms are black, and exactly the same shape as the RPM arms you have, so no provisions for mounting sway bars.

[alcyon]

On the white wishbone picture the triangular area is what i would fill in giving a bit more strength. To be honest having a solid white chunk of a wishbone on front and rear on my lazer would look and be superb.

definitely can be done, a solid arm, but how about unsprung weight ? I always though we should get arms that are indestructible yet not too heavy. Again, white or black ?

[HKS_TRD]

The MPP arms are black, and exactly the same shape as the RPM arms you have, so no provisions for mounting sway bars.

Are the MPP the same as the Trinity lazer arms?
I suppose I could always drill the hole for sway bar provision

[alcyon]

Are the MPP the same as the Trinity lazer arms?
I suppose I could always drill the hole for sway bar provision

they look exactly the same. I can only take pics when I get back home tonight.

[isobarik]

yeah MPP and trinity same stuff.............

alcyon if you ever decide machining lazer arms count me in ....

mvh isobarik

[alcyon]

yeah MPP and trinity same stuff.............

alcyon if you ever decide machining lazer arms count me in ....

mvh isobarik

Got it ! But that question again. White or black ? I vote black

[isobarik]

Got it ! But that question again. White or black ? I vote black

white of course....

mvh isobarik

[alcyon]

And who is the wise guy:) that outbid me on ebay for the lazer zx runner from hungary ?

[alcyon]

I have a question in practicality concerning the Lazer ZX Arms I am planning to manufacture. The question is to those who are interested in them of course. Will you guys be using it for a shelfer or runner? Keep in mind the arms will be designed to be "unbreakable" ,so thus is targeted for those who intend to race. So, like myself, I guess none of you have broken any rear arm before ? So if that is the case, wouldn't it make economic sense to just make black front unbreakable arms, that way it would match in color to the original rears. Unless of course most of you guys prefer to have the bling factor ala old school RC10 style (4 white arms) .
Also, owing to the limited interest in them, I cannot manufacture enough quantities to lower the cost. If I make 4 rear arms and 4 fronts, the selling price would be circa U$50 including shipping for a complete set of arms, which is the same as what its going for on ebay for originals these days which is about 40 GBP excluding shipping.
So let me know your thoughts on this.

[OptimaFan]

So, like myself, I guess none of you have broken any rear arm before ?


Good point, some of the cars I purchased second hand, which came with a set of spare suspension arms, always had at least one front suspension arm replaced, and still a pair of new unused rear arms. As a result I have at least twice as much new spare rear arms than fronts. The front suffers more than the rear, in my opinion.

Another thing btw, if making the arms unbreakable, where will the energy go in case of a crash? Often if you fix a weak link in a chain of parts that are connected, the next part in line will suffer.

[Welshy40]

Id be up for a set in white but next month as ive git a huge service bill for my real car.

If unbreakable then the next weak point is the chassis holding the gearbox and pivot block as that may snap as that happened with me when i did area51 event and hit a wall at about 45mph, wishbone took the full impact and didnt break but chassis did.

[mintzant]

sorry i have just bought a very nice LAZER ZX-S!!!
i would like to ask you if can i use the front(LA13) and the rear(LA12) belts of my lazer zx-r????
PLEASE HELP!

[OptimaFan]

Id be up for a set in white but next month as ive git a huge service bill for my real car.

If unbreakable then the next weak point is the chassis holding the gearbox and pivot block as that may snap as that happened with me when i did area51 event and hit a wall at about 45mph, wishbone took the full impact and didnt break but chassis did.


Seems to me that switching out a wishbone is less work than replacing a broken gearbox or chassis. ;)

[Welshy40]

sorry i have just bought a very nice LAZER ZX-S!!!
i would like to ask you if can i use the front(LA13) and the rear(LA12) belts of my lazer zx-r????
PLEASE HELP!

No LA114 and LA115 I think are the correct belts if your on about the zxs or do you mean zx sport which uses la13 and la12

[mintzant]

No I mean the original lazer zx-s.
Thanks

[Crashtest33]

Hi peeps

These are three of the easier parts to make from LA-103 and hopefully can be measure without completely stripping a car.

No.65 from this picture in the manual.

It worked!
I've made you a spare James if you want one?

[Welshy40]

It worked!
I've made you a spare James if you want one?

Yes please.

[lllyf]

No I mean the original lazer zx-s.
Thanks

This is the correct belts set for the zx-s series
65105

[alcyon]

Seems to me that switching out a wishbone is less work than replacing a broken gearbox or chassis. ;)

Not unless you are using these arms on an optima mid with aluminum chassis.. tell me how can one break the OT-122 chassis, getting crushed by a full scale tank doesn't count !Hmm which gives me an idea, I seem to go through undertrays really quickly, how about a tub aluminum chassis made for lipos, anyone ? Both for the Lazer and LWB Mid of course.

[HKS_TRD]

A carbon tub for the Mid would be awesome. You could have fibrelyte make you a tub for a mid based on the new ZXR tub but it would mean having to use a ZXR or tomcat shell to work with the shape of the sidewalls. If you lay a Lazer chassis over a LWB mid chassis you will be surprised at how many holes line up
Hmmm that gives me some ideas for the 21st Century Mid ....

[alcyon]

A carbon tub for the Mid would be awesome. You could have fibrelyte make you a tub for a mid based on the new ZXR tub but it would mean having to use a ZXR or tomcat shell to work with the shape of the sidewalls. If you lay a Lazer chassis over a LWB mid chassis you will be surprised at how many holes line up
Hmmm that gives me some ideas for the 21st Century Mid ....

No carbon for me, I want to make it out of tough aluminum since all modern cars these days use aluminum too, and it would be cheaper also.

[isobarik]

For the front this solution really works

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac264/isobarik1/DSC_0036_zpsf8cc3711.jpg

can be ordered fom the usually place www.fibre-lyte.co.uk

welsh designed :thumbsup:

mvh isobarik

[RalfM]

Hi Lazer-fans,

I am still looking for a finned aloi-motorplate for my Lazer.
I know, there is a special "wanted" area in the oople-forum, but
I want to try it here.

If someone should have such a finned-motor-plate an would sell it,
I would realy pay a very good price.

I have searched on ebay and other places in the web since end of december, but I had no luck:bored:

Hopeful regards
Ralf

[kek23k]

For the front this solution really works

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac264/isobarik1/DSC_0036_zpsf8cc3711.jpg

can be ordered fom the usually place www.fibre-lyte.co.uk

welsh designed :thumbsup:

mvh isobarik

I had a similar solution on my ZXR back in the day but it was just a straight swap using a Mid front hingepin bracket. Worked a treat.

[HKS_TRD]

How do you stop the pivot pins from coming out?

[Welshy40]

How do you stop the pivot pins from coming out?

Same way the zxs pivot pins are held in.

[RalfM]

Hi,

this will be my second Lazer, should be a ZX-RR and not a ZX-R like in the discibtion. May be it is a bit overpriced. Perhaps I can sell the ESC.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/221387852651?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Regards
Ralf

[kek23k]

How do you stop the pivot pins from coming out?


I never had a problem as the front kick-up always seemed to keep them in place, might not be the same now with the extra power available today.

[RalfM]

Hi,

some of my ball ends (LA 43 are broken). Are there any other ball ends with better quality than the original, may be from associated or an other factory, that would fit ?

Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

Hi,

some of my ball ends (LA 43 are broken). Are there any other ball ends with better quality than the original, may be from associated or an other factory, that would fit ?

Regards
Ralf

I use associated B4 ball joints all round.

[Crashtest33]

Finished some parts for my ZX-S
OTW-9 Battery posts
LA-23 Deck supports
And LAW20-1 kick up plate

[kek23k]

Finished some parts for my ZX-S
OTW-9 Battery posts
LA-23 Deck supports
And LAW20-1 kick up plate


Nice work, shouldn't there be an angle on the kick-up plate?

[HKS_TRD]

Nice work, though the deck supports are just the same as the regular ones for a mid?

I love those OTW-9 Battery Posts, any chance you are going to make any more?

[alcyon]

I have asked the plastics supplier to make 3 sets of white arms for the ZX. I have simplified the arms and made one smaller oval opening , so the arms are a lot more beefier than stock LA26. Should be ready next week.
One set each for Welshy40, isobaric and then me. I also got a alloy OT-98 upper deck mount for optima mid made up in A6061.

[Crashtest33]

Nice work, shouldn't there be an angle on the kick-up plate?

Yeah, I do that in a panel bender.

[Welshy40]

Ok yesterday i had a bad day racing and only real issue i had were the zx knuckle arms disconnecting from the wishbone as the kingpins vibrated free and irritated me big time. It turned out after i changed the setup that the tyres i bought were a bad batch and was the reason why I was drastically slow, but using the practice tyres from saturday was quicker in the final so car was not as easy to drive due to my set up changes, never the less car was superb and on practice day was one of the quickest overall.

Now the good news, even though my event was crap i managed to make tenth overall in the Maritime raceway 2013/14 championship and am quite happy that, especially when im driving a vintage. A lot of thanks goes to Alcyon for his patience and making the layshaft, Nuclear Rc (Dave Belsten) for his diff & thrust grease & super glue plus his input in how to better my setup, Fibrelyte & Kamtec for their continuous support.

Now to dismantle my gearbox and test this layshaft in a normal gearbox and update Alcyon on whats needed (not much) to be done to finish it so he can start making for all.

[alcyon]

. A lot of thanks goes to Alcyon for his patience and making the layshaft, Nuclear Rc (Dave Belsten) for his diff & thrust grease & super glue plus his input in how to better my setup, Fibrelyte & Kamtec for their continuous support.

Now to dismantle my gearbox and test this layshaft in a normal gearbox and update Alcyon on whats needed (not much) to be done to finish it so he can start making for all.
Thanks my man. Welshy40 I need your help. I have contacted Kamtec wanting to buy 2 LWB mid undertrays, 2 wings, and a ZX-S body, but ever since they heard I was from Malaysia they seemed to have stopped responding. From the reply I received from them regarding shipping cost they may have thought at first, I lived in the U.K. Could you talk to Kamtec and ask them to talk to me ?
Also if anybody needs to talk to me about parts or anything my whatsapp or viber chat number is +60162111906.

[Welshy40]

Ok, will do today, if it comes down to it i can always post on to you.

[Crashtest33]

Does anyone have any new 39506 or WBD5 diff kits for sale?
I've got the LA1 pulleys but need the outdrives, cups and gubbins.

Cheers peeps

[RalfM]

Hi,

today I have got the Lazer ZX-RR from ebay in good condition.

In the package, there was the manual in english (ZX-R), the supplement instruction manual (ZX-RR) and a german version of a manual for the ZX-RR
version. The car has the golden shocks, short shocks at the front. I had believed, the ZX-R has middle shocks at the front an the ZX-RR has the equalizer-shocks. This car ist still originial, it has the hyper-clutch.

In the ZX-RR manual, there are shown the short golden shocks for the front.
So I am a bit confused. Please explain me the differences. I thougt, ZX-R(R) has allways middle length shocks at the front.
I am positive surprised about the german instruction manual, the is the assembly of the hyperclutch shwon in detail, better as in the supplementary-paper and much more other informations. I have never seen such a manual before.

Thank you!

Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

It lools like an RR but closer to the end of the production of this car the equalizer shocks got added instead of the gold shocks.

[RalfM]

Would the kamtec shell for the zx-s (LA-122) fit on the lazer ZX-R?
Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

Would the kamtec shell for the zx-s (LA-122) fit on the lazer ZX-R?
Regards
Ralf

Kamtec sells the shell with the undertray so is worth the price.

Yes but its a tight fit, you'll need to buy the associated B4 servo side mounts and use the 1mm spacer to push the servo further inwards on your chassis to get it to fit the under tray. Also would advise not cutting the end off until you have held it against the chassis as the end is shorter on the zxs compared to the ZXR so you may not need to cut off as much.

Be advised that you will need to be patient cutting it out as there are no lines to follow but is worth doing as its a quality product. Have a set of small sharp curved scissors handy as it will be needed.

[oli4ke]

Does anyone have any new 39506 or WBD5 diff kits for sale?
I've got the LA1 pulleys but need the outdrives, cups and gubbins.

Cheers peeps

I guess, I still have 1ea 39506....

[Lowry]

Hi Ralf,

to me it looks like your car has the medium shocks in front. Did you compare the length to other short and medium Gold shocks.

Overall the car seems to be in great condition. Have fun!

Cheers

Ralf

[RalfM]

Hi Ralf,
Yes I have compared the shocks. The medium shocks from you are longer
as the shocks in the new ZX-RR. I have ever believed, the ZX-RR has medium length shocks at the front. But the manual and the very impressive
german instruction-paper shows the short shocks.
So it is crazy, that the ZX-RR from ebay-Kleinanzeigen had medium equalizer shocks.
I was really surprised about the good condition oft the Lazer.
All I need is an original rear wing for ZX-RR, this part is damaged.
Regards
Ralf

[kek23k]

While we're talking about shocks, I need to replace the ones that my ZXRR came with. So, Kyosho Big Bores or Equalizers?

Also, it looks like my RR came with short shocks on the front too. I thought it was just because it was a parts build but maybe not?

[Pacman]

Have open up the front shocks? In the ZX-R mk2 instructions the medium shocks have a space put under the piston to slightly shorten the medium shocks.

[RalfM]

Hi,

yes, I have opened the golden front-shocks, there is no spacer inside. It seemed to be very various, what kyosho addet to the ZX-RR with shocks.
I have asked the first owner of my new ZX-RR again, he did not changed any parts, it is still original, except the wheels and tires.

It would be better, if he would have done a better paint-job. He has not used spray-color, only a brush. The decals are ok, no scatches, only the under-tray has some cratches. But the rear-wing is damaged.
Is this part still available (no similar, oly the same)?

Regards
Ralf

[Welshy40]

While we're talking about shocks, I need to replace the ones that my ZXRR came with. So, Kyosho Big Bores or Equalizers?

Also, it looks like my RR came with short shocks on the front too. I thought it was just because it was a parts build but maybe not?

If your racing outdoors then big bores but you will need the shock mount fitting for the car the shocks were made for as they wont fit the zxr ones, for indoors a lot of people prefer normal shocks.

[Crashtest33]

All the parts for my ZX-S Evo are either ordered or sorted. Quick question on the shock colour. The original manual box art photo shows the gold shock tops and bottoms but I've only ever seen pics of blue ones.
I've got both colours but wondered which are more authentic. Also, was the kick up plate always anodised blue?
Cheers

[Welshy40]

All the parts for my ZX-S Evo are either ordered or sorted. Quick question on the shock colour. The original manual box art photo shows the gold shock tops and bottoms but I've only ever seen pics of blue ones.
I've got both colours but wondered which are more authentic. Also, was the kick up plate always anodised blue?
Cheers

Blue kick up plate as standard, shocks were gold in piccy as they were that colour when they were first released but blue was what appeared on the zxs evo kits, including some upgrades to the protos which i had in blue.

[isobarik]

Shall snapp some pics of my latest find à carbon alloy beuty
Looks awsome really nice condotion.

Mvh isobarik

[RalfM]

I have a question.
Is the motorspacer (metal-plate) between ;otor and LA 18 necessary? Why sould I use it?
I dont mean LA 19.

[Welshy40]

Shall snapp some pics of my latest find à carbon alloy beuty
Looks awsome really nice condotion.

Mvh isobarik

Hurry up, paints drying quicker :lol:

[Welshy40]

I have a question.
Is the motorspacer (metal-plate) between ;otor and LA 18 necessary? Why sould I use it?
I dont mean LA 19.

Thought this was part of a motor plate but cant remember exactly which car it came from, possibly the Alpha or Sport kis.

I always used a metal heatsink spacer between the motor and motor plate to keep the motor cooler, but when the alloy top deck mount appeared i stopped using as the heat was dissapated through the top deck mount and meant i could gear higher and not burn out my brushed motors.

If your brushless motors do get hot then its a good idea to have attached to you motor.

[OptimaFan]

I thought the spacer only had a function when running motors with vent holes on the pinion side. I haven't seen it on my Lazer ZX Sport, but the Mid definitely came with this spacer.

[RalfM]

During using this spacer the contakt aerea between motor and motorplate is smaler as without this spacer. So I believe the heat can better go away without this spacer. My brushless has not these holes. May be I am wrong.

This smal plate was mounted between brushed motor and motorplate in my ebay-ZX.RR.

Regards
Ralf

[isobarik]

Hurry up, paints drying quicker :lol:

the shell is painted and it has already dried and look awfull well i can order anotehr one.....

graphite chassi ...really nice ......

mvh isobarik

[alcyon]

Welshy40, can the original ZX decals be plastered on the ZXS body easily or do I have bend certain decals, like the huge lettering LAZER ZX on the sides. KAMTEC has finally sold me some stuff. I am seriously targeting to get my Lazer rollable by end of this year. I am gonna work on the drive train first, then suspension.

[Welshy40]

Welshy40, can the original ZX decals be plastered on the ZXS body easily or do I have bend certain decals, like the huge lettering LAZER ZX on the sides. KAMTEC has finally sold me some stuff. I am seriously targeting to get my Lazer rollable by end of this year. I am gonna work on the drive train first, then suspension.

I dont see why not.

Relating to the drive train this week im taking my gearbox apart and fitting your layshaft into a normal gearbox and will update you of any changes if any.

[Crashtest33]

OT-73. It came from the mid kit and Kyosho put it in the ZX-R mkII additional parts bag.

[alcyon]

Welshy40, are the RW spurs based on the latest layshaft ready? I want to purchase two.

[Welshy40]

Yes, 100t associated B4 spur gears that he made for me.

[isobarik]

Hurry up, paints drying quicker :lol:

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac264/isobarik1/cid__809B7962C9226F4E91DE5624472230B0ssab_zps1b1c9 5ff.jpg

looks a bit different from my other lazers :lol::lol::lol::lol:

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Mate your letting the side down a bit, yes it went really well and remember watching Craig Drescher and Rory Cull beating the rest in the early 90s with these. Great cars but not a Lazer :p

[isobarik]

Mate your letting the side down a bit, yes it went really well and remember watching Craig Drescher and Rory Cull beating the rest in the early 90s with these. Great cars but not a Lazer :p

isnt it ??????:woot: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

oh man i think i have been stiffed ..:D

yeah i know but the nvc here in sweden has 93 as last poduction yea so
no go for the zxs, and if i go my daughters will drive theire lazers so this is what i will drive......... ithink ....

mvh Isobarik

[Crashtest33]

Firstly, Henrik, get that overrated Yokomo rubbish off this thread! ;)
Secondly, purchased a servo for the ZX-S. Went for a KO 2001 in the end. Great spec and good price.
Final electronics are as follows; Trinity Kinwald Epoxy motor, Novak Duster sport ESC, KO Propo PS 2001 steering servo & Sanyo 2400SCR NiMh saddle pack.
Boo ya!

[Welshy40]

Firstly, Henrik, get that overrated Yokomo rubbish off this thread! ;)
Secondly, purchased a servo for the ZX-S. Went for a KO 2001 in the end. Great spec and good price.
Final electronics are as follows; Trinity Kinwald Epoxy motor, Novak Duster sport ESC, KO Propo PS 2001 steering servo & Sanyo 2400SCR NiMh saddle pack.
Boo ya!

Be advised get a kimbro servo saver as nthe ko servos gears break. Best things I ever bought and has never failed me

[Crashtest33]

Going for the gold shock tops & bottoms and currently everything else is silver.
I like yours James where even the stabilizer ball ends are blue.
Doing every single Alu bit in gold could be fun. Or just the shocks gold, 20.1 blue and everything else silver like the cover art.

Anyone think what looks cool and what doesn't? (My ZX-RR looked pretty pimp in all gold.)

[Welshy40]

Yes it looks good in gold and someone has done this before. Cant waot to see it

[alcyon]

Welshy40..you keep saying if we want to use gear diffs we need the hardened outdrives..do you have the part number ? I also have an idea about making my own outdrives but the slot size will be 4.1mm so that a touring car bone blade can be installed to avoid wear on the cups.
I also have some binding steering issues with LA-27 C hubs with ZX-5 knuckles. This happens because I have to grind off the top portion of the ZX-5 knuckles to bring it down to 19mm from 22mm. However grinding it is hardly precision work, which will cause binding because the kingpin design demands no less than 0.1mm precision in order to have the kingpins tight but do not bind. I am planning to design my own "teamline hubs" made of either blue or white nylon, which will allow the 22mm ZX-5 knuckles to fit right in, with also the provision to fit in 2 flange bearings. These bearings will be 4mm ID, &mm OD and flange of 8.2mm, thickness 2.5mm. The flange will be placed inwards and tightening the kingpins will be set and forget. The ZX-5 knuckles are cheaper, stronger and easier to get than OT-16s. I should then finally have smooth steering. Question is now is should I include the second hole like LA-59, since that would be very hard to drill and also would require the left an the rights to be different.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140328_152738_zps75f3aeea.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140328_152738_zps75f3aeea.jpg.html)

[alcyon]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140331_093732_zps8621b595.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140331_093732_zps8621b595.jpg.html)

[Welshy40]

Yes i do and have a new set, but will look when im back home in the evening for the part numbers. Also wishbones look superb but does need the extra section in the pivot block pole area (the U shape section) as i use that in my car plus me personally I would prefer them not having the section cut out for more strength.

Also the hubs, white would look superb and go well with the wishbones. I think im the only one using the holes on the inner side so would suggest only doing the two holes, as anyone can easily drill a hole if required, but unless your doing zero degree hubs both left and right will be different as the angle for the wishbone connector will be different on each side as they are put on reverse from the other.

[alcyon]

Yes i do and have a new set, but will look when im back home in the evening for the part numbers. Also wishbones look superb but does need the extra section in the pivot block pole area (the U shape section) as i use that in my car plus me personally I would prefer them not having the section cut out for more strength.

Also the hubs, white would look superb and go well with the wishbones. I think im the only one using the holes on the inner side so would suggest only doing the two holes, as anyone can easily drill a hole if required, but unless your doing zero degree hubs both left and right will be different as the angle for the wishbone connector will be different on each side as they are put on reverse from the other.

Welshy40, the holes at the front arms are required to clear the outdrives in case of maximum arm travel. Ok I will get yours cut out to fit the wheel retainers but I will leave mine as it is. Also I looked at LA-27 and there does not seem to be a left or right side, both angles look at zero. Its the arms inner pivot to the brace to the gearbox that is producing the angle, am I right or wrong ?Cause I really cant see any angle in the C hubs, unless its LA-59 which has the inner holes drilled at and angle.
I just rechecked the ZX and ZXR manual, LA 27 C hubs do not have a left and right version, only the knuckles.

[Welshy40]

Welshy40, the holes at the front arms are required to clear the outdrives in case of maximum arm travel. Ok I will get yours cut out to fit the wheel retainers but I will leave mine as it is. Also I looked at LA-27 and there does not seem to be a left or right side, both angles look at zero. Its the arms inner pivot to the brace to the gearbox that is producing the angle, am I right or wrong ?Cause I really cant see any angle in the C hubs, unless its LA-59 which has the inner holes drilled at and angle.
I just rechecked the ZX and ZXR manual, LA 27 C hubs do not have a left and right version, only the knuckles.

The hubs actually have angle on, if your looking at the blue team line ones you can clearly see the angle in pivot pin hole through the hub. Kick up I am unsure what that does to the overall angle but my hubs say 5 or 7.5 on them and havent ever seen a zero for this car.

Wishbones, what I meant was the pivot pin holder had a little u section which was for an adaptor to bolt the wishobone to the pivot pin meaning it would not move or have slop due to that and is what I currently use. I will post a picture so you understand.

[alcyon]

The hubs actually have angle on, if your looking at the blue team line ones you can clearly see the angle in pivot pin hole through the hub. Kick up I am unsure what that does to the overall angle but my hubs say 5 or 7.5 on them and havent ever seen a zero for this car.

Wishbones, what I meant was the pivot pin holder had a little u section which was for an adaptor to bolt the wishobone to the pivot pin meaning it would not move or have slop due to that and is what I currently use. I will post a picture so you understand.

That's the thing, I designed these hubs based on LA27 not on teamline hubs. I do not see any angle in LA27, please correct me if I am wrong.
Yes I know about the U section, I figured it wont be needed because the ZX uses a captured system. But I can get it done for your set. For mine I will leave it.

[Welshy40]

Ok this is for the Lazer ZXS fans out there. Ive got the below items that are up for grabs, all together as a set. They are all still new in packet with exception of the gearcover.

OK THE BELOW HAVE BEEN RESERVED PENDING PAYMENT - meaning we will have another member soon

LA26 Wishbones
LA128-7 Front Hub
LAW20-1 Blue Kick Up Plate (rarest part for this buggy & probably the only one still in packet)
LA103
LA112*
LA114 Front Belt
LA115 Rear Belt
LA100 Front Bulk Head
LA102 A Arm Stay
LA131 Suspension Plate Set
LA130 Motor Cooling Plate
LA125 Lazer ZX-S Decal Sheet (original)
Uncut Gear Cover
Uncut Clear Gearbox Cover
Plus i have found a new unused left and right rear gearbox bottom plastic sides and also rear inner chassis pivot block
Also a brass solid rear shock tower mount

Serious offers only please.

[Welshy40]

That's the thing, I designed these hubs based on LA27 not on teamline hubs. I do not see any angle in LA27, please correct me if I am wrong.
Yes I know about the U section, I figured it wont be needed because the ZX uses a captured system. But I can get it done for your set. For mine I will leave it.

Ok i believe you have a zero degree LA27 which would explain why no angle.

[alcyon]

I just received Kamtec bodies and they do indeed look nice. Now the challenge is cutting them..

[Welshy40]

I forgot to add this picture of the top 7 at Maritime, guess which one is me :woot:

[alcyon]

I could spot you a mile away..... JFN Wolves !

[Welshy40]

Yes, the Lazer wasnt hard to miss.

Mate I couldnt have made the top ten without your help. Thanks.

I hope my email relating to the layshaft made sense.

[alcyon]

Yes, the Lazer wasnt hard to miss.

Mate I couldnt have made the top ten without your help. Thanks.

I hope my email relating to the layshaft made sense.

Itwasnt that actually, I recognized your mugshot from an issue of a RC car magazine that someone posted a while back, I think featuring Dan's CAT XLS.

[HKS_TRD]

The hubs actually have angle on, if your looking at the blue team line ones you can clearly see the angle in pivot pin hole through the hub. Kick up I am unsure what that does to the overall angle but my hubs say 5 or 7.5 on them and havent ever seen a zero for this car.

Wishbones, what I meant was the pivot pin holder had a little u section which was for an adaptor to bolt the wishobone to the pivot pin meaning it would not move or have slop due to that and is what I currently use. I will post a picture so you understand.

James have you got a picture of what you are describing in the above post?

[Welshy40]

James have you got a picture of what you are describing in the above post?

Dan,

Not to hand but look at your zxs wishbone and you will see the silver circular chunky adaptor with grub screw on the pivot pole going through the wishbone. That sits in the U shape on the wishnone and what i designed into my ZXRS

[Welshy40]

Itwasnt that actually, I recognized your mugshot from an issue of a RC car magazine that someone posted a while back, I think featuring Dan's CAT XLS.

Yup thats right i forgot about that.

[HKS_TRD]

Dan,

Not to hand but look at your zxs wishbone and you will see the silver circular chunky adaptor with grub screw on the pivot pole going through the wishbone. That sits in the U shape on the wishnone and what i designed into my ZXRS

Yep I know what you mean now

[Crashtest33]

Just so you know LA-107 and LA-112 have now gone the way of the dodo. :(
Chris in the US has now sold out and Kyosho USA, SWE, JP and UK don't have any.
Really glad I got em in.
Even harder to build an S now. :thumbdown:
Ironically, Kyosho SWE have plenty of LAW-12's left.

[HKS_TRD]

I've bought an LAW-12 to use for my open gearbox carbon tub shelfer project

I wouldn't mind a second S in box art but I don't have a big enough shelf for everything and I'm happy with the one I have, it just needs some more blue anodised pieces which I am working on now

[alcyon]

My 0 degree caster C hubs with ball bearings are ready.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_141755_zps0a825f8e.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_141755_zps0a825f8e.jpg.html)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_151440_zpse0468357.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_151440_zpse0468357.jpg.html)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_151510_zps3c6fe1ad.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_151510_zps3c6fe1ad.jpg.html)
Designed to be used with standard ZX-5 Knuckles LA-219-4 or LA-219-7, and with use of original kingpins. However because
the height of the C hub is much higher than LA-27, the LA 245 CVD bone will interfere with the gear diff bevel gear output shaft, so you need to shim the CVD on the outside, not the inside. This will push the CVD out and it wont interfere with the bevel gear output shaft.

[Welshy40]

Nice, problem is the wider front end just fits in the box but spacing out on the outside would or could mean the car may not be legit on the track. Just a thought anyway.

[Peakey]

My 0 degree caster C hubs with ball bearings are ready.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_141755_zps0a825f8e.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_141755_zps0a825f8e.jpg.html)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_151440_zpse0468357.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_151440_zpse0468357.jpg.html)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/20140405_151510_zps3c6fe1ad.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/20140405_151510_zps3c6fe1ad.jpg.html)
Designed to be used with standard ZX-5 Knuckles LA-219-4 or LA-219-7, and with use of original kingpins. However because
the height of the C hub is much higher than LA-27, the LA 245 CVD bone will interfere with the gear diff bevel gear output shaft, so you need to shim the CVD on the outside, not the inside. This will push the CVD out and it wont interfere with the bevel gear output shaft.


Where can I ask did you get those turnbuckle from I had a red set in a old dog fighter and have been looking for some more

[alcyon]

Where can I ask did you get those turnbuckle from I had a red set in a old dog fighter and have been looking for some more
I dont know. I got them back then when i bought my mid back in 1990. I beleive they are made by cross racing. I deduce that from rc10talk forums where i saw a guy mentioned it was made by cross.

[Peakey]

Thanks pal I'll have a look for them :thumbsup:

[xfactor]

Hi peaky, GPM used to make them, they made a lot of stuff for the Lazer. Shock towers etc... all in different colours red,blue,gold,green and purple.:thumbsup:

[xfactor]

Just done a quick search on Ebay, they still do them..........:woot:

[Peakey]

Thanks mark just what I'm after

[stulec52]

Hey guys
I just got this in the post today :
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/stulec52/20140322_220437.jpg (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/stulec52/media/20140322_220437.jpg.html)
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/stulec52/20140322_220501.jpg (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/stulec52/media/20140322_220501.jpg.html)
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/stulec52/6C338414-02B8-43DE-AD9C-8285BC6E3CA4.jpg (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/stulec52/media/6C338414-02B8-43DE-AD9C-8285BC6E3CA4.jpg.html)

my thoughts are to rebuild it as a vintage runner. (as I already have a couple of 2wd retro racers)
it looks like the front end has been damaged, although I do have a new in pack front gearbox casing, but I'm loathed to crack it open for anything other than a shelf queen....
I am missing 1 front drive shaft / UJ, so looking for options there.
Should be a fun project I think. !

thanks
Stu

[Welshy40]

Nice. Ive posted the uj info on here somewhere, the ones i use are listed and much better than the zxr ujs. I think ive got LA245 on the rear so do a search on this thread and see what appears. I just bought two more axles and two longer shafts for the front.

[rob m]

i have been searching for part law-2 anti roll bar set for my zxr and had no joy.
i can get an ot-54 roll bar set for a turbo optima, but what i would like to know , has anybody tried to make this fit and if so how far off is it from fitting? my next step would be to make my own roll bars.....if anybody has the front and rear zxr roll bars they could measure and tell me the lengths and angles that would be great :thumbsup:

[stulec52]

cheers Welshy.

you think these would work ? : http://www.rcmart.com/kyosho-la303-universal-swing-shaft-655plastic-joint-type-p-34460.html
Much cheaper, and available too :)

[alcyon]

cheers Welshy.

you think these would work ? : http://www.rcmart.com/kyosho-la303-universal-swing-shaft-655plastic-joint-type-p-34460.html
Much cheaper, and available too :)

this is really cheap, but will only work if you have LA-59 C hubs , and you use the inner position on the hub to push it out wide. If not you must use 62.5mm. Unfortunately no one else makes a cheaper alternative to LA-245.

[alcyon]

Welshy40 got a question for you. When the ZX came out, it came with a 100tooth spur. If I am not mistaken, it is a 48dp spur just like the Mid before it.
So whats my point ? Well I noticed when I bought my 81T B4 spur gear and compared it to my 87T Optima Mid spur, they were almost the same diameter. That means the pitch on the dp is smaller. So My theory is, since the ZX has a 100tooth dp..could a say 93T B4 spur be almost the same size? If that is the case then there is no need to make spurs with RW. by the way Neil of RW isn't answering my mails. Besides..buying from the UK is killing my pocket in the form of exchange rate.

[Welshy40]

cheers Welshy.

you think these would work ? : http://www.rcmart.com/kyosho-la303-universal-swing-shaft-655plastic-joint-type-p-34460.html
Much cheaper, and available too :)

I wouldnt contimplate using these as i doubt they last long plus cant guarantee it will fit in the out drive or the hubs. Yes LA245 in the rear, plus another pair of axles and longer bones to widen the front will be expensive but they can be rebuilt when slop happens and so far several years in and ive still got zero play.

[Welshy40]

LA232 is 65mm long - I bought the bones for the front of the zxr but also bought the LA-231.02 axles for the LA245 & a rebuild kit to make the front ujs for my zxr

I also bought LA245 which is 62.5mm long and use on the rear of my zxr

Also youll need hexes VZW-10 and also some axle wafer thin spacer washers.

[terry.sc]

Welshy40 got a question for you. When the ZX came out, it came with a 100tooth spur. If I am not mistaken, it is a 48dp spur just like the Mid before it.
So whats my point ? Well I noticed when I bought my 81T B4 spur gear and compared it to my 87T Optima Mid spur, they were almost the same diameter. That means the pitch on the dp is smaller. So My theory is, since the ZX has a 100tooth dp..could a say 93T B4 spur be almost the same size? If that is the case then there is no need to make spurs with RW. by the way Neil of RW isn't answering my mails. Besides..buying from the UK is killing my pocket in the form of exchange rate.
The ZX has an 88T 0.6 module spur, the ZX-R has the 100T 48dp spur. The Optima Mid has a 74T 0.6 module spur, not 87T.

[moth898]

I have my racing lazer(that I've never raced) that I'm looking to sell, it has fiberlyte chassis and shock tower. Oosh front and rear transmissions.....Basically every luxury hop up out there.

Plus I have a ton of parts both nip and loose, any of you interested?

pm me

[Welshy40]

As Terry said, zx has .6 and zr was 48dp 100t. Ive tried various sized spurs and 100t works best. Alcyon i will send you a couple though next month when i buy a few for myself. Do you want the b4 design spur im using with your layshaft?

[alcyon]

As Terry said, zx has .6 and zr was 48dp 100t. Ive tried various sized spurs and 100t works best. Alcyon i will send you a couple though next month when i buy a few for myself. Do you want the b4 design spur im using with your layshaft?

Yes i need that b4 spur for this layshaft. I an already starting to build my zx and will post pics on rc10talk. I just finished revision on the layshaft and wil ask machinist to make another one with hardening on monday.

[isobarik]

Welshy40 got a question for you. When the ZX came out, it came with a 100tooth spur. If I am not mistaken, it is a 48dp spur just like the Mid before it.
So whats my point ? Well I noticed when I bought my 81T B4 spur gear and compared it to my 87T Optima Mid spur, they were almost the same diameter. That means the pitch on the dp is smaller. So My theory is, since the ZX has a 100tooth dp..could a say 93T B4 spur be almost the same size? If that is the case then there is no need to make spurs with RW. by the way Neil of RW isn't answering my mails. Besides..buying from the UK is killing my pocket in the form of exchange rate.


zx came with la-2 88 tooth modul 0.6 spur not 100% accurate on the module but i think it was 0.6 anyway same module as the optima mid

later zxr and on used the tm-7 100 tooth 48pitch spur

[stulec52]

is there a list somewhere of the differences between ZX and ZX-R ?
I'd like to build one of each eventually...

[terry.sc]

is there a list somewhere of the differences between ZX and ZX-R ?
I'd like to build one of each eventually...
Try this thread
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=756733

[stulec52]

thanks Terry

#TerryKnowsAll ;)

[stulec52]

Stripped the car right down to all the pieces, and starting cleaning :

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/stulec52/1EEB200D-F47C-49F4-A7FB-9334E976EC97.jpg (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/stulec52/media/1EEB200D-F47C-49F4-A7FB-9334E976EC97.jpg.html)

Also ordered some of the parts I need to finish the build.
Missing some hardware still I think, but might have those in a box somewhere....

[oli4ke]

Pimp my ride :D

[HKS_TRD]

Wow Oli that looks amazing, the ZX body looks good when done right and the buggy has a low ride height
I love how you used a MKII chassis and hyperclutch along with the rare sway bars

Though I am a little confused, you said you are selling all your buggies and then you go and build another one lol

[Welshy40]

I wonder who designed Oli's shock towers?:p

[Welshy40]

Wow Oli that looks amazing, the ZX body looks good when done right and the buggy has a low ride height
I love how you used a MKII chassis and hyperclutch along with the rare sway bars

Though I am a little confused, you said you are selling all your buggies and then you go and build another one lol

Thays not a hyper clutch, possibly a wasp solid layshaft.

[oli4ke]

Wow Oli that looks amazing, the ZX body looks good when done right and the buggy has a low ride height

Thanks Dan:)

Though I am a little confused, you said you are selling all your buggies and then you go and build another one lol

You sound like my wife buddy :p;)

[oli4ke]

I wonder who designed Oli's shock towers?:p

Only the best is good enough:D Thanks James for the nice looking design :thumbsup:

[oli4ke]

Thays not a hyper clutch, possibly a wasp solid layshaft.

A solid layshaft it is ;)Thanks for noticing mr. James eagle eyes :wtf:

[Boyracer]

Pimp my ride :D

Are this one also for sale? Please pm me ;) Welshy40, long time, sent you a pm a time ago ;-)

[Welshy40]

Are this one also for sale? Please pm me ;) Welshy40, long time, sent you a pm a time ago ;-)

Apologies, seems my reply never got to you. Ive pm'd you again and fibrelytes website link is below in my name tag. You should be able to find those towers under kyosho Lazer ZX, but as i couldnt find the front would advise sending a picture to Stephen and he can find the design on his system

[Welshy40]

Whats needed is for someone to buy a tub chassis from fibrelyte and do a step by step build. Any takers?

[HKS_TRD]

Whats needed is for someone to buy a tub chassis from fibrelyte and do a step by step build. Any takers?

I ordered one a while ago and waiting for them to make it along with some other stuff, they did make a tub but drilled it to the MKII pattern by mistake

Also I am thinking my vintage tub I have here which will be a runner will also have an open gearbox, but in twill weave. James is that custom tensioner for the rear gearbox that you made compatible with the open ZXRS gearbox in any way?

[oli4ke]

Are this one also for sale? Please pm me ;)

Yes it is...

[oli4ke]

Whats needed is for someone to buy a tub chassis from fibrelyte and do a step by step build. Any takers?

Tempting.....:D

[Welshy40]

I ordered one a while ago and waiting for them to make it along with some other stuff, they did make a tub but drilled it to the MKII pattern by mistake

Also I am thinking my vintage tub I have here which will be a runner will also have an open gearbox, but in twill weave. James is that custom tensioner for the rear gearbox that you made compatible with the open ZXRS gearbox in any way?

No as the LA112 does all that in my gearbox design. The tensioner I made works with the standard kit gearbox but you need to be exact on fitting it to get it working right. Mind you I will be doing an event using the standard gearbox and tensioner later on this year.

[HKS_TRD]

True but the LA-112 comes with two tensioners and your gearbox uses three

[alcyon]

WElshy40 machinist is working on layshaft . Good news he is free this time. I am making 2 lazer shafts and 5 optima mids. This shaft will have a hard chromr layer on the one way area. Also with new revisions to the lenghts as you asked for.

[Welshy40]

True but the LA-112 comes with two tensioners and your gearbox uses three

Yes three and is why its superb, but you dont need the tensiober for the front belt as you can always tension via the top deck.

[Welshy40]

WElshy40 machinist is working on layshaft . Good news he is free this time. I am making 2 lazer shafts and 5 optima mids. This shaft will have a hard chromr layer on the one way area. Also with new revisions to the lenghts as you asked for.

Superb mate.

[HKS_TRD]

Yes three and is why its superb, but you dont need the tensiober for the front belt as you can always tension via the top deck.

Is it possible to buy the third tensioner on its own

[kek23k]

I've emailed Fibrelyte this morning about the MkII tub that wasn't required, hopefully its still available :D.

James, when you said you need a step-by-step rebuild, what's the reason? Is it just so we can get together all the upgrades that everyone has done for reference?

I'm slowly getting my kit list together but I have a few items outstanding and other pressures keep taking up my time (work etc).

[Welshy40]

I've emailed Fibrelyte this morning about the MkII tub that wasn't required, hopefully its still available :D.

James, when you said you need a step-by-step rebuild, what's the reason? Is it just so we can get together all the upgrades that everyone has done for reference?

I'm slowly getting my kit list together but I have a few items outstanding and other pressures keep taking up my time (work etc).

I said it because only mines been on here and hope others get one. If your getting it if still available ask if the rear end can be modified slightly as per my picture that I sent to them to allow for more droop.

[alcyon]

Welshy40, besides the RW spurs, I need your help, on Ansmann Mad rat rear wheels, I need 2 pairs of yellows and 2 pairs of whites. Let me know the cost when the time comes. Looks like there will be a EP buggy race coming in august here.

[HKS_TRD]

So what are the best belts to use in a ZXR Runner?

[Welshy40]

Welshy40, besides the RW spurs, I need your help, on Ansmann Mad rat rear wheels, I need 2 pairs of yellows and 2 pairs of whites. Let me know the cost when the time comes. Looks like there will be a EP buggy race coming in august here.

Ok will investigate and update

[rob m]

So what are the best belts to use in a ZXR Runner? ive been using the original belts front and rear for the last 7 months with a 6.5t brushless system with no problems. but i have made tensioners front and rear and added a bearing just above the la11 to stop the belt jumping teeth.

[Welshy40]

So what are the best belts to use in a ZXR Runner?

With my type cf gearbox and tensioners either the ebay repro or original. Original is stronger so down to preferance.

[Welshy40]

Is it possible to buy the third tensioner on its own

TBH if your using my design gearbox then would advise doing it my way as its been faultless. I use one on the L brace, and two on the rear belt. Yes its a pain buying two packets but it works well. Email me mate if you are having problems.

[stulec52]

not sure if this has been brought up already, but as I was in need of a front bumper for my Lazer, and not wanting to pay $50+ for it ( I am Scottish after all)
I had a look around today at in my local hobby store.
I grabbed a DER-208-A Bump Skid piece for an RC8, it was $7.
Now I haven't tried to install it yet, but lining it up with the chassis, it sure does look like with minimal trimming it'll fit.

Some good pics here, show how it appears to fit similarly to the stock item.
http://www.rc-race-shop.com/de-racing/bumpskid-plate-asso-rc8-rc8e-rc8t-sc8e-p-45630.html

I'll update when I get around to the re-build to be sure it fits.

[kek23k]

I said it because only mines been on here and hope others get one. If your getting it if still available ask if the rear end can be modified slightly as per my picture that I sent to them to allow for more droop.

They only got back to me today and are checking to see if it's still available, thanks for the tip though I will definitely mention it :D

[stulec52]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kyosho-lazer-/321385262363?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=19zR556d2mohYKUbXQJ%252FhOYGWH8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

managed to win this, I believe it's a ZXs??
plan is to strip it to steal the parts I need for my ZXr
price was right anyway, and comes with some extra parts, so I should be able to finish my build off pretty soon :)

[rondoolaa]

Yer, looks like a zx sport, not a bad price either.
I've got nearly a complete one I'm restoring at the moment and got nearly all the parts needed new in packets.
Stand next to my zxr when I've finished it. :-)

[Welshy40]

Yup, looks like a sport and looks brand new almost. I like those slicks :thumbsup:

[kek23k]

Hi James,

Stephen from Fibre-Lyte has found me a tub but he's not sure about the rear droop changes you mentioned before. Any chance you could provide some more details?

Cheers,

Rich

[stulec52]

Yup, looks like a sport and looks brand new almost. I like those slicks :thumbsup:

yeah Welshy, it even comes with a second set !
Hopefully I can persuade those tires off ok.
parts wise though, it gives me all I needed to get my racer ready.
tempted by a couple of Fibrecraft parts now too..... must stop looking....

[HKS_TRD]

Hi James,

Stephen from Fibre-Lyte has found me a tub but he's not sure about the rear droop changes you mentioned before. Any chance you could provide some more details?

Cheers,

Rich

I hope that's not my tub lol

[Welshy40]

Hi James,

Stephen from Fibre-Lyte has found me a tub but he's not sure about the rear droop changes you mentioned before. Any chance you could provide some more details?

Cheers,

Rich

I will call him today.

[kek23k]

I will call him today.

Cheers James :D

HKS, not sure lol. They said they had a Mk1 drilled and one undrilled (I need the MkII rear).

[Welshy40]

Cheers James :D

HKS, not sure lol. They said they had a Mk1 drilled and one undrilled (I need the MkII rear).

Well then you need a mk2 chassis. Ive sent them the picture of my mod to my chassis that has made a big difference.

[kek23k]

Well then you need a mk2 chassis. Ive sent them the picture of my mod to my chassis that has made a big difference.


Brilliant, thanks James :D

[rob m]

hi, just after a little advise please guys. i have stripped down and starting to rebuild my lazer after racing it over winter.....and i have decided to re built the rear gearbox assy as per manual and was just woundering is this a good idea as i now have about 1mm of float side to side on the layshaft?
when i first built it up last year i added shims to take away most of the float but in the back if my mind i kept thinking the float my be for a reason. it worked fine and belt looks in good condition still. so i would like to know please is how others build the layshaft assembly?

[rob m]

pics of gearbox, belt tensioners front and rear with a guide bearing above the pully and i have now added an inspection slot on top of the gearbox case so i can keep check of belt condition and tension

[Welshy40]

hi, just after a little advise please guys. i have stripped down and starting to rebuild my lazer after racing it over winter.....and i have decided to re built the rear gearbox assy as per manual and was just woundering is this a good idea as i now have about 1mm of float side to side on the layshaft?
when i first built it up last year i added shims to take away most of the float but in the back if my mind i kept thinking the float my be for a reason. it worked fine and belt looks in good condition still. so i would like to know please is how others build the layshaft assembly?

I try and get almost no floating movement on the layshaft. I opted for using the zx thrust on the layshaft between the pulleys and if you still have some then wafer thin washers the size of the bearings between the housing and bearings. A fractional amount is acceptable. Other way is if you have screwed your back plate section onto your layshaft then you can move it as far back as possible on the slot and that may help.

[rob m]

I try and get almost no floating movement on the layshaft. I opted for using the zx thrust on the layshaft between the pulleys and if you still have some then wafer thin washers the size of the bearings between the housing and bearings. A fractional amount is acceptable. Other way is if you have screwed your back plate section onto your layshaft then you can move it as far back as possible on the slot and that may help. yes i have plenty of them shims. i also have the zx thrust part that you use so i will try that instead of the bush, do you still use the 'E' clip? or should i replace it with a shim of the same thickness to keep distance between the pulleys the same?

[moth898]

Here's my racer(That I never raced!) That I want to sell.
Any takers

[stulec52]

Looks awesome !
Price?

[moth898]

Looks awesome !
Price?

1000 Canadian plus shipping. I have spent close to 1500 putting it together. The custom oosh parts cost me 800us alone

[rob m]

ive been wanting a roll bar set for my zxr, but not had much luck in finding one, so i decided to make my own from a team associated b44 roll bar and some carbon fibre i had spare. both front and rear work great.....but the front catches on the steering links on full lock if i use the zxr steering plate, but using the zx steering plate the links just miss the roll bar .please can anybody who has the original roll bar set tell me if the same happens when using the zxr steering plate?

[Welshy40]

ive been wanting a roll bar set for my zxr, but not had much luck in finding one, so i decided to make my own from a team associated b44 roll bar and some carbon fibre i had spare. both front and rear work great.....but the front catches on the steering links on full lock if i use the zxr steering plate, but using the zx steering plate the links just miss the roll bar .please can anybody who has the original roll bar set tell me if the same happens when using the zxr steering plate?

My ex team mate Mannie Pannesar designed the front roll bar for the ZX and i still prefer the zx steering plate to the zxr one. Other idea is bend it more to miss it on full lock.

[rob m]

My ex team mate Mannie Pannesar designed the front roll bar for the ZX and i still prefer the zx steering plate to the zxr one. Other idea is bend it more to miss it on full lock. so the roll bar was designed for the zx then and not zxr. i will just carry on using the zx plate then, thanks for the info
:thumbsup:

[kek23k]

so the roll bar was designed for the zx then and not zxr. i will just carry on using the zx plate then, thanks for the info
:thumbsup:

You could try mounting the ARB balljoints on the inside of the wishbone and then bending the vertical links so they don't foul the top camber link?

[rob m]

You could try mounting the ARB balljoints on the inside of the wishbone and then bending the vertical links so they don't foul the top camber link?
i thought about bending the arb link, that will work i think. putting the balljoint on the inside would mean drilling a new hole and that would be a pain if i break a wishbone. having to keep drilling them.

[kek23k]

Fair point, let us know if you get it working :thumbsup:

[LylesTV]

http://www.oople.com/forums/<a href=&quot;<a href=http://s235.photobucket.com/user/lylestv/media/P1030700_zps38f46f82.jpg.html&quot; target=_blank>http://s235.photobucket.com/user/lylestv/media/P1030700_zps38f46f82.jpg.html&quot;</a> target=&quot;_blank&quot;><img src=&quot;<a href=http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee68/lylestv/P1030700_zps38f46f82.jpg&quot; target=_blank>http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee68/lylestv/P1030700_zps38f46f82.jpg&quot;</a> border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot; photo P1030700_zps38f46f82.jpg&quot;/></a>Hi All,

I'm new on here and hope to get some information on a car I just bought. I already had a much modified Lazer ZXR that had at some point been converted to 2WD using parts from a Pro X, its a great buggy and rather than try to turn it back into a ZXR I decided to leave it alone and get a complete ZXR instead. This is what I ended up with.
Can anyone advise as to what I have?
I understand from a helpful chap on Tamiyaclub that the body is ZXS and the rest may be modded ZXR mk1? its all carbon fibre, front and rear CVDs, torque splitter, ecto plasma motor.
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[LylesTV]

Hmmmm cant get the photobucket pics to show!?

[Welshy40]

Lyestv

No pictures so please post as now im intreagued.

[LylesTV]

trying again

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[LylesTV]

THey are just some quick snaps of the car as it arrived, it came with an ill fitting undertray several sets of wheels and batteries chargers, radio gear complete ready to run.
I'll post some pics of my Mutant X 2wd Lazer ZXR at some point:)

[kek23k]

I think it's a WASP chassis.

[Welshy40]

Yes its a wasp chassis, fibrelyte L brace and looks like my design front tower.

[kek23k]

It's also been raced on carpet! ;)

[Welshy40]

Superb.

[eddscott]

Picked up a Lazer Sport and a Lazer ZXR last night

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The R had a moulded rear wing - would that mean it is an RR? Is there much difference between the two?

Is the clutch on the R a Hyperclutch? How can I tell?

I'd like to make the R a runner but upgrade everything as I restore it - I don't keep my resto projects stock. So with that in mind I'd like to go carbon throughout with Fibre Lyte parts, velvet shocks all round, Lunsfords all round and new hex screws throughout too.

I see the S chassis is quite different to the R - is it possible to build an S from an R? From pics of the S cars on here it looks like many of the parts are too specific to build a replica S.

Theres a ZX on page 233 (Green and White) which is simply stunning - if I could get mine close to that I'd be very happy.

[Welshy40]

Hyperclutch has two screwsttaching the spur to the slipper system. One zxr kit did have a plastic wing but believe it was bought as an extra as a lot of zxr drivers used those wings including me.

The S chassis is a mk1 version andi believe the r version you have is mk2 so chassis are different. Also i recal the sport having different parts as well so doubt youd be able to use as spares for a zx.

Also the zxs on fibrelyte is a totally different car so cant use any items on the zx or zxr.

Still ive still got a new in packet sticker sheet up for sale if anyones interested for the zxs.

Still what you have is superb and with a bit of patience and time youll find the bits and then get to enjoy a car that looks as stunning as Oli's green machine. Also you know the tub chassis can be bought from fibrelyte as well and that makes it look more stunning plus makes the car much more easier to drive.

[kek23k]

Doesn't the hyperclutch and equaliser shocks make it an RR?

At the very least it's a very tidy MkII, nice find :D

[Welshy40]

Doesn't the hyperclutch and equaliser shocks make it an RR?

At the very least it's a very tidy MkII, nice find :D
Didnt look properly DOH! Yes if its a mk2 chassis but shocks may have been in the kit making it an RR.

[Welshy40]

Whoever contacted me regarding the tub that fibrelyte have needs to hurry up and decide on what you want doing and update them as i understand someone else is interested in that chassis.

[isobarik]

Picked up a Lazer Sport and a Lazer ZXR last night

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The R had a moulded rear wing - would that mean it is an RR? Is there much difference between the two?

Is the clutch on the R a Hyperclutch? How can I tell?

I'd like to make the R a runner but upgrade everything as I restore it - I don't keep my resto projects stock. So with that in mind I'd like to go carbon throughout with Fibre Lyte parts, velvet shocks all round, Lunsfords all round and new hex screws throughout too.

I see the S chassis is quite different to the R - is it possible to build an S from an R? From pics of the S cars on here it looks like many of the parts are too specific to build a replica S.

Theres a ZX on page 233 (Green and White) which is simply stunning - if I could get mine close to that I'd be very happy.

nice RR there ....

do you have the molded wing ???

and yeah olikes green and white zx looks absolutly stunning .....

mvh isobarik

[eddscott]

I gave the wing to a fellow club member as I didn't think it was stock for that car - DOH! I wasn't too bothered as I planned to mod the car before and run it with a light brushless system (13.5) but if its a bit on the rare side it might be a shame to not keep it stock. I'm sure if I ask nicely I can get it back.

I have the Lipo trays from a B44.1 which I was thinking I could send to Fibre Lyte and have the holes lined up for a custom chassis without the cell slots.

On the Fibre Lyte website it mentions James Instone chassis - what differences are there over the MK2 chassis?

Pargu does the alloy blocks but there was some issue with them not lining up properly - was this resolved after?

[Welshy40]

I gave the wing to a fellow club member as I didn't think it was stock for that car - DOH! I wasn't too bothered as I planned to mod the car before and run it with a light brushless system (13.5) but if its a bit on the rare side it might be a shame to not keep it stock. I'm sure if I ask nicely I can get it back.

I have the Lipo trays from a B44.1 which I was thinking I could send to Fibre Lyte and have the holes lined up for a custom chassis without the cell slots.

On the Fibre Lyte website it mentions James Instone chassis - what differences are there over the MK2 chassis?

Pargu does the alloy blocks but there was some issue with them not lining up properly - was this resolved after?

Paragu didnt resolve and wouldnt recomend dealing with him.

My chassis is a mk1 version (i prefered the mk1 chassis) with the cell holes inwards a further 5mm to give a better balanced feel. Its also narrower and fits within the zxs shell that Kamtec sell. Otherwise get the tub, you will drool over it once you have one, just ask Dan from Australia :thumbsup:

Ive designed several lipo trays through fibrelyte, my preferred is the version thats similar to the trf511 but you really need to drill the chassis to fit the centre block. I thought the b44 trays were a direct fit?

[rob m]

the b44 lipo trays dont fit unless you drill new holes. i also had to make myself new post s as my lipos are deep and the ae thumb nuts hit the bodyshell, i could of used screws but that would of just bugged me when changing over the lipo's.

eddscott. if you intend on using the zxr as a runner with fast modern electrics eg 6.5t brushless i would really recommend getting all carbon......chassis, top deck, rear tower and a front tower with hoop. the frp chassis have to much flex for todays speeds. also a rear belt tensioner.....welshy40 may still sell them?. i also made little blocks that fasten behind the front tower to make front gearbox stronger ( picture 2 ). you mentioned the james instone parts from fibrelyte, take a look at the lazer on the first page of this thread, that car has all the carbon parts from that design

[Welshy40]

the b44 lipo trays dont fit unless you drill new holes. i also had to make myself new post s as my lipos are deep and the ae thumb nuts hit the bodyshell, i could of used screws but that would of just bugged me when changing over the lipo's.

eddscott. if you intend on using the zxr as a runner with fast modern electrics eg 6.5t brushless i would really recommend getting all carbon......chassis, top deck, rear tower and a front tower with hoop. the frp chassis have to much flex for todays speeds. also a rear belt tensioner.....welshy40 may still sell them?. i also made little blocks that fasten behind the front tower to make front gearbox stronger ( picture 2 ). you mentioned the james instone parts from fibrelyte, take a look at the lazer on the first page of this thread, that car has all the carbon parts from that design

Welshy40 is James Instone. Check out my designs as they are all over this thread. I will this weekend do a sheet for fibre lyte for lipo trays and L plate and best front shock tower to use and of course my rear gearbox design. Will try & get drawings done as well and will try & post next week. Also i prefer the mk1 chassis but works much better with a tub chassis as its so much stiffer & the extra weight makes it a better drive.

Also like the picture of the plastic washers over the front end top deck. Nice idea.

[rob m]

james ive seen the great work and time you have put into the lazers and im aware of who you are, i just kept the connection apart for eddscott to save confusion.

[Welshy40]

Rob m cheers

Also forgot to add yes ive got a few tensioners as well.

[Welshy40]

Ok heres some pictures of the items I use on my spec'd out car from fibrelyte, only item on here I don't use is a design I did for the MK2 lipo tray plus the motor plate is designed with counter sunks for my cf gearbox so if you want I would suggest you request without the two those counter sunks to be removed from around the bearing hole. Also ignore the number 14 on my top deck, this was the only picture I could find of my design.

The Mk1 lipo tray design (picture is on a chassis with centre block) is what I am using on my tub chassis.

[isobarik]

welshy 1- ema 2

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Rats, thought you hadnt noticed :wub gutted and dissapointed

[isobarik]

ha ha just because the swedes are not in it doesent mean that we dont watch ...any way you will be out when the penelty shots starts ....:thumbsup:



mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

ha ha just because the swedes are not in it doesent mean that we dont watch ...any way you will be out when the penelty shots starts ....:thumbsup:



mvh isobarik

Me thinks Rooney will be doing & wont miss as the goalie will feel sick just looking at him :p

[isobarik]

Me thinks Rooney will be doing & wont miss as the goalie will feel sick just looking at him :p

might be soo ..but there are more penelty shots then just one ..

lipo carbon cradles and the motorplate are they at the FL homepage ???

just a funny story well depends how you look at it anyway back in the nintees -96 to be more exact there was an english lad who shoot it over the bar and well si germans went on to the final and won the eurofinal.

a couple of years later 98 or something leeds united was playing the local team from BODEN here in SWEDEN since it was only 3 mil from me i went and looked at the game, just an training match the PL hadnt started yet, the same lad was in that game. Anyway one of the local guys during an intermission break, stood beside him and just looked at him and then said "hey nice peneltyshoot in the euro" and he went crazy really mad trying to "stämpla" him cant the english word for it but stamp him on the foot. You know put youre foot on the other guys foot and do it really hard, he was trying it for the rest of the game.


mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Hehe, its funny as it shows what a bad sportsman he was, i wish id kept saying it as well for fun.

Made by fibrelyte but not on their pages.

[isobarik]

Hehe, its funny as it shows what a bad sportsman he was, i wish id kept saying it as well for fun.

Made by fibrelyte but not on their pages.

Tell them to put it on the page then

Mvh isobarik

[oli4ke]

Theres a ZX on page 233 (Green and White) which is simply stunning - if I could get mine close to that I'd be very happy.

Thanks for the compliment!;)

[Welshy40]

Tell them to put it on the page then

Mvh isobarik

Have asked, they are a man down at the moment and work long hours :cry: so when they can they will. :woot:

[isobarik]

welsh

and you are out well look at the positive youre not out by loosing in penelty shoots ................:thumbsup:

and i guess the english tabloids are screaming and begging for svennis to do a comeback ....

because atleast with svennis the played differently more running game , the badside with that was that you had beckham man he was slow hardly couldnt run at all....

now with hodgson the english was back to down to the goal line and just smack the ball in and hoping some striker would change the ball direction. man the english has played that game for like even before i was born ...:thumbdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJhda58asJI

just some salt in the wound....

mvh isobarik

[oli4ke]

Dan,

Pics attached buddy!

rgds

[kek23k]

Factory fresh! :D

[Welshy40]

welsh

and you are out well look at the positive youre not out by loosing in penelty shoots ................:thumbsup:

and i guess the english tabloids are screaming and begging for svennis to do a comeback ....

because atleast with svennis the played differently more running game , the badside with that was that you had beckham man he was slow hardly couldnt run at all....

now with hodgson the english was back to down to the goal line and just smack the ball in and hoping some striker would change the ball direction. man the english has played that game for like even before i was born ...:thumbdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJhda58asJI

just some salt in the wound....

mvh isobarik

Iso,

England are crap, get rid of the old crap five players and get doing what Chilie are doing by playing well. england will never win it again.

[HKS_TRD]

Otherwise get the tub, you will drool over it once you have one, just ask Dan from Australia :thumbsup:


Haven't been on here for a while so missed this, I am still waiting on my tub(s) from Fibrelyte which are part of an order of standard and custom parts. They seem to be really busy, the last week I haven't gotten any responses to emails James is Stephen on holidays by any chance?

I have a question about the ZX-RR exactly what shocks does it have, are they ultimate shocks and if so what are Ultimate shocks, are they just an equalizer shock without the threaded body or something else again?

[Welshy40]

Haven't been on here for a while so missed this, I am still waiting on my tub(s) from Fibrelyte which are part of an order of standard and custom parts. They seem to be really busy, the last week I haven't gotten any responses to emails James is Stephen on holidays by any chance?

I have a question about the ZX-RR exactly what shocks does it have, are they ultimate shocks and if so what are Ultimate shocks, are they just an equalizer shock without the threaded body or something else again?

Equaliser unthreaded i believe some were threaded and were in only limited numbers after Ellis won the euros but was gold shocks for most.

[Welshy40]

Guys, need someone to take a picture of the RPM front knuckle arms taken apart and measurements of the bearings as well as ive got the knuckle arms but no bearings. Id like to use these as they are good quality.

[HKS_TRD]

I have a set of medium and long equalisers here and they do have the threaded body, I think they will wind up on my Ultima project. I also have a pair of short equalisers which aren't threaded.

James you are in luck re the knuckle arms I have a pair of RPMs here with bearings will dig them out and measure this week

[Welshy40]

Dan, cheers, think the front bearing is flanged, possible there may also be a spacer as well.

[Welshy40]

Dan,

Dont forget about the knuckle arms and bearings.