how to convert a touring into a rally car

[alex97]

i was thinking of getting a touring car and convert it in to a rally car how should i do that

[qatmix]

Well you want to raise the ground clearance to a minimum of 15mm by adding longer shocks. You also want to ensure that shrapnel from the road can't come in, so make a chassis cover.

You would also need to modify the suspension arms to cope with the extra height.

It's easier to buy an old tamiya ta01/02 or the mighty TB01 as they make good rally cars

[alex97]

I was going to use a Speed Passion RS1 Touring Car and put 60mm shocks and rase the the ride height and add rally tires

[alex97]

And I picked that car as it is cheap and so is the parts

[qatmix]

Looks like it will be a good candidate. As I mentioned before, just check the arms etc are not binding when you add the longer shocks.

[Steven Forster]

could always get the mighty HPI RS4 Rally..............(been discontinued a while now though)

http://archive.hpiracing.com/kits/rally/r-m.htm

Ive got one begging to be rebuilt ;)

:thumbsup:

[alex97]

hi the rs4 looks good do u know where to get one from i have looked on ebay

[stoff]

could always get the mighty HPI RS4 Rally..............(been discontinued a while now though)

http://archive.hpiracing.com/kits/rally/r-m.htm

Ive got one begging to be rebuilt ;)

:thumbsup:

Mines in many many pieces. Just undergoing a restoration of my HPI RS4 Mini at the mo! :thumbsup:

[simon]

Hi,
If you look in the ansmann thread,i converted a are-2 into a rally car.....really good car for this as it has metal diffs,and telescopic drive shafts........cut a bit of the chassis away for more down droop,and put longer ball joints on the bottom of the shocks..have about 30mm of ground clearance fully extended.....its a shame there is no where in the UK that does 1/10th rallying,or rallycross......would be a good,cheap class....

cheers simon

[lochness42]

Well czech guys race stage rallies and most common mods are - dremeled off droop bits on chassis, replacement of shocks for something slightly longer, dirt box and rally wheels

[dodgydiy]

200mm kit for a tc3 if you can find one, the car itself is cheap, albeit slightly old, but still makes a good rally weapon

[Steven Forster]

Hi,
If you look in the ansmann thread,i converted a are-2 into a rally car.....really good car for this as it has metal diffs,and telescopic drive shafts........cut a bit of the chassis away for more down droop,and put longer ball joints on the bottom of the shocks..have about 30mm of ground clearance fully extended.....its a shame there is no where in the UK that does 1/10th rallying,or rallycross......would be a good,cheap class....

cheers simon

No where near as good as the ultimate rally car.............the RS4 Rally is the one that set it all off and was the best, good ground clearance and good handling, probably next best was the Yokomo MR4 Rally and then the Tamiya TB-01 was a good cheap version !!!

Looks awesome drifting in a school playground with a light covering of snow ;)

Heres a rally clip..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLY6t2L7UFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6aiwIjq_9I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCfyySDDTjU&feature=related

:thumbsup:

[alex97]

Thanks for getting back do any of you know where I could get one from as I have had a look but I can't find one

[Steven Forster]

Thanks for getting back do any of you know where I could get one from as I have had a look but I can't find one

They are quite hard to find and if you do find one they are normally over £100...............

heres one in the USA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HPI-RALLY-rs4-electric-DRIFTER-RTR-Very-Nice-LIGHTS-UP-/330642881766?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cfbd9fce6

It says drifter in the listing but if you lookat the box it shows as a Rally car...............!!!

heres a Yokomo MR4 Rally on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yokomo-mr4-touring-car-not-ae-hpi-losi-/270850657820?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3f0ff50e1c

dont take any notice being listed as a touring car as it is definately the rally car version................!!!

:thumbsup:

[simon]

Here you go,same as mine...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANSMANN-ARE-2-1-10-TOURING-CAR-CHASSIS-w-MOTOR-SERVO-OIL-SHOCKS-R3-/310356761026?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4842b459c2.

[colmo]

How does the Tamiya DF-03 RA rate? Might work out expensive compared to the RS-1/ARE-2/LRP Blast TC etc.

[Andyp]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yokomo-mr4-touring-car-not-ae-hpi-losi-/270850657820?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3f0ff50e1c

dont take any notice being listed as a touring car as it is definately the rally car version................!!!

:thumbsup:

Mmmm in not sure about that being the 'rally' version steve the main give away is the shocks and towers , other differances are the bulkheads but no way can you tell them from the pic.

i think it is just the origanal mr4tc in your link

Heres a chance to show off mine,some of the tc parts are getting hard to find, some of the 'rally' parts are like rocking horse poo!

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3581/rally001.jpg
By andypearson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andypearson) at 2011-11-16

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3405/rally003.jpg
By andypearson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andypearson) at 2011-11-16

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2213/rally004.jpg
By andypearson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andypearson) at 2011-11-16

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3768/rally005.jpg
By andypearson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andypearson) at 2011-11-16

[qatmix]

I would look for a Tamiya TB01 the only thing which made it second best to my rs4 was the weight. It was always much tougher. Now I have a brushless in one its my rally car of choice.

You can also get most parts for the tb01 quite easily... Although it doesn't seem to ever break :)

[Steven Forster]

Yeah thats definately an MR4 Rally, the rally version had a back bone which was screwed into and down the centre of the chassis which also had a clear cover protecting the belt, that and the other easiest give away is the servo location, the servo on the rally is stood upright and at an angle like in your pics...................:p

Rally

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachments/r-c-items-wanted-buy/25604d1070621720-cheap-rally-car-rally01.jpg

The MR4 TC (custom) had a laid down style top deck and servo was also laid down on its side with a little cut out in the chassis .............:thumbsup:

Touring

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=12193

PS that car looks brand new !!! :woot:

[alex97]

Will a hard case lipo fit in it tb01

[alex97]

i was going to get this http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=359807 what do u think

[colmo]

i was going to get this http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=359807 what do u think

It's got a lot going for it - electrics, looks robust, price.

Only thing I wonder about are the driveshafts:

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/New_Cars_and_Parts/Speed_Passion_RS1/RS00288.html

The Ansmann ARE-2 has telescopic ones, great for extended suspension travel.

[Origineelreclamebord]

Will a hard case lipo fit in it tb01

It's tight: I have a 2 cell stick pack (rounded edges) hard case LiPo (Yeah Racing 3200mAh 20C), and it barely fits in there. The length is a problem because the wires become stuck between the battery and the chassis. There are also ribs in the battery compartment, so if you don't have a stick pack LiPo there are two options: get one or mod the tub.

All in all a really tough car, so the issues with fitting the battery (in stock form anyway) don't spoil the fun you'll have with this car :thumbsup:

[alex97]

I'm newis to rc what is a
Dogbone Set

[Cooper]

I'm newis to rc what is a
Dogbone Set

http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=dogbone+set&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3307l4952l0l5272l11l9l0l0l0l1l691l3127l2-3.2.2.1l8l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=1195&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lIK4OT7R11g/Tfaqb1VxrQI/AAAAAAAACTY/Mr-ECTxIExI/s1600/Dog+Bone+Set.jpg

[alex97]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TAMIYA-TT-01E-TT01E-TYPE-E-CHASSIS-KIT-NEW-/400187071619?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item5d2d021c83

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-Mitsubishi-Evolution-V1-Tb-01-/260897770737?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3cbeb80cf1

would this be good a witch one is better

[Steven Forster]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-Mitsubishi-Evolution-V1-Tb-01-/260897770737?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3cbeb80cf1

would this be good a witch one is better


The TB01 cheap to run, cheap to fix it has the inner body aswell so will keep most of the crap out of it, hasnt got high ground clearance but still an awesome rally car................:thumbsup:

[qatmix]

Yup go for the tb01

[simon]

Some recent pics,..its nearly finished...got a kyosho cover,and a fan for the motor as they tend to get a bit hot,due to the constant wheelspining etc,and not much airflow...been rallying on hard gravel surface and the car has held up really well..great fun!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/sb5u78.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24l9awz.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/qpnzf7.jpg

[alex97]

what car is that

[colmo]

what car is that

Looks like the Ansmann ARE-2 - I was looking around for one and noticed they seem to be discontinued in some places.

What are the wheels and tyres? Tamiya Rally Blocks?

[alex97]

i think they r Fastrax 1/10th Touring Wheel/ Rally Block

[simon]

Hi,
Yes the car is an ansmann are 2,,,very good to convert to rally,because of metal diffs and telescopic driveshafts..wheels and tyres are fastrax,,,,,

[colmo]

I must check out Fastrax for those rally blocks.

I found this Carisma M40S Audi Quattro (click photo to go to Modelsport):

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/_images/products/standard/ca69768.jpg (http://www.modelsport.co.uk/carisma-m40s-audi-quattro-rallye-rtr/rc-car-products/40398)

Modelsport also have a sale on a number of Tamiya rally cars, the most authentic being the FF03 (thus front wheel drive) Honda Civic (the old style one):

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/_images/products/standard/58467.jpg (http://www.modelsport.co.uk/tamiya-castrol-honda-civic-vti-ff03/rc-car-products/37031)

[Northy]

Didn't William Mitcham win the 10th RallyX nats with a TTech T1R? :confused:

The very same one I have sat at home :thumbsup:

[alex97]

I have had a annsman be for and firstly the spur gear is hard to get out and I diden like the manual that showed u how to fix it or build it. Is this one any good

[colmo]

I've been idly looking at the FF03 as a rally option. It has a few things going for it - sealed gearbox, adjustable wheelbase (the short 233mm setting would suit the HPI Peugeot 106 and Saxo rally shells), and it's a Tamiya (endless parts and hop-ups, and excellent suspension).

I've been trying to find what the practical maximum ride height for it is, and could you fit a 201X slipper on it?

[simon]

I think the FF03 has the laydown front shocks which might be a problem?

I have a cheap tamiya DF03 chassis which i will be selling...all there works perfectly,oil shocks etc just needs a tidy..£60 posted...


Cheers simon

[simon]

A short clip of the rally car in a gravel carpark.....it is very rough and the car handles it very well......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBNHarHODA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMkYnNZNlyM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[V1nce]

Standing in an unseasonably warm forest in early November for Rally GB inspired me into building an RC rally as a bit of a project.

As this was going to be a project I wanted to avoid buying a purpose designed kit, such as the DF03. I looked at the seemingly popular TT01 or even converting an old T2 Xray that I have kicking around. I discounted them on price and suitability grounds. Instead I picked up a scruffy TC3 from ebay then source AE’s TC3 rally conversion parts, less the rare (read expensive) 200mm arms, a set of rally blocks and Fastrax’s TC3 splash cover.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/v1nce/385096_10150499318119744_518359743_10527657_168949 2565_n.jpg

The Focus WRC body shell arrived yesterday, so that’ll keep me amused over Christmas. I’m pondering none Ken Block colour schemes at the moment. Henning Solberg’s Orange entry of the last few seasons looks like a candidate.

Mounting the body will require some longer rear body posts. The standard AE posts are really short and weedy. I’m struggling to find either longer posts or extensions that’ll securely fit over their 4mm diameter. Everything seems to be designed for 5-6mm posts (Sausage up an entry springs to mind). Any suggestions?

[coleman758]

Schumacher Menace body posts are massive!

[Steven Forster]

Will be putting up my Tamiya TB-01 up for sale soon after i finish stripping, cleaning and rebuilding it..............;)

[aaron1974]

I made a plate up which utilized the existing tc3 posts and picked up the holes on the shock tower which kept it nice and stiff and cost nothing... I didn't have any carbon fibre so used an old drill case which was 2.5mm thick, it sounds ropey but works really well and doesn't look as bad as it sounds !:thumbsup:

[V1nce]

I've sorted the body post issue...

Fitted a set of atomic T3 Xray post with some Ebay extensions. Job Done.

I'll post some photos when its finished.

[simon]

We really need some rally/rallycross racing with these cars!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:..any clubs race these??