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nismo 15-04-2010 09:11 AM

latest new on e TRF201

http://www.rcracer.com/off-road-elec...01-chassis-kit

muratti 15-04-2010 04:46 PM

Just a short questions off topic: as this will be my first brushless 2WD buggy i was wondering what turn it should be? I currently run a LRP Vector X12 7.5 turn motor in my DB01R and it feels pretty good on my hometrack. Should i go for the same on 2WD or do you normally go a little up or down in turn numbers? Sorry for being o.t. :)

Fredrik Emilsson 15-04-2010 04:49 PM

In that case, go for a 8.5 in your TRF201.:)

muratti 15-04-2010 05:18 PM

Thanks for your advice, Fredrik. Is there a special reason for going up in turns? The gearing of the 2WD in general?

MRD 15-04-2010 05:39 PM

I generally go 6.5t in 4wd and 8.5t in 2wd. The 8.5 can still be a beast tho, even with an old Vector x11 the car will wheely off the line if the slipper's too tight

By the looks of the Hopup list I'll be getting the imperial bearing axles and the motor plate straight away, and probably all the DB01/501 parts that will fit, like shock bushings and Ti Shock shafts. Not sure about the black shocks either, I think I'll get some HL ones :)

muratti 15-04-2010 05:52 PM

Thanks MRD, will surely buy the motor plate and imperial bearing axles straight away too.

DaveG28 15-04-2010 07:26 PM

Looks like front shock shafts may be different lengths by the new springs, unless they are just different rate to the 4wd!?

Putting together my order at the moment!!:thumbsup:

94eg! 15-04-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 367366)
Looks like front shock shafts may be different lengths by the new springs, unless they are just different rate to the 4wd!?

Putting together my order at the moment!!:thumbsup:

Most likely different rates due to the very different weight distribution of 2WD...

fastinfastout 16-04-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367310)
I generally go 6.5t in 4wd and 8.5t in 2wd. The 8.5 can still be a beast tho, even with an old Vector x11 the car will wheely off the line if the slipper's too tight

By the looks of the Hopup list I'll be getting the imperial bearing axles and the motor plate straight away, and probably all the DB01/501 parts that will fit, like shock bushings and Ti Shock shafts. Not sure about the black shocks either, I think I'll get some HL ones :)

its a metric car, keep it all metric:)

I wouldnt get imperial bearing axles unless b4 front rims would fit, which I doubt.

MRD 16-04-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 367481)
its a metric car, keep it all metric:)

I wouldnt get imperial bearing axles unless b4 front rims would fit, which I doubt.

Thats kind of the point of releasing an imperial axel set, so b4 and Jconcepts wheels will fit. What did you think it would be for :lol:.

B44&501xRacerEX 16-04-2010 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367310)
I generally go 6.5t in 4wd and 8.5t in 2wd. The 8.5 can still be a beast tho, even with an old Vector x11 the car will wheely off the line if the slipper's too tight

By the looks of the Hopup list I'll be getting the imperial bearing axles and the motor plate straight away, and probably all the DB01/501 parts that will fit, like shock bushings and Ti Shock shafts. Not sure about the black shocks either, I think I'll get some HL ones :)

Same thing I was thinking a 8.5 in this car should be about right.
7.5 is still a tad too much motor in a 2wd.
I know people who run a 5.5 in a 2wd and it's overkill.

sparrow.2 16-04-2010 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B44&501xRacerEX (Post 367730)
Same thing I was thinking a 8.5 in this car should be about right.
7.5 is still a tad too much motor in a 2wd.
I know people who run a 5.5 in a 2wd and it's overkill.

That is soooo up to the track you race at! On our outdoor track an 8.5 is a tad on the slow side...

fastinfastout 17-04-2010 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367675)
Thats kind of the point of releasing an imperial axel set, so b4 and Jconcepts wheels will fit. What did you think it would be for :lol:.

heard nothing about b4 front rims fitting. The axles need to be the same width too for them to fit.

the axle set could be possibly cos imperial bearings are easier to purchase in the US for replacement.


personally, tamiya should have went hex's on the fronts, like the rb5's and CR's, heaps better in my opinion.

MRD 17-04-2010 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 367779)
heard nothing about b4 front rims fitting. The axles need to be the same width too for them to fit.

the axle set could be possibly cos imperial bearings are easier to purchase in the US for replacement.


personally, tamiya should have went hex's on the fronts, like the rb5's and CR's, heaps better in my opinion.

It says here: 54220 TRF201 Front Axle (For 3/16” x 3/8” Bearings)

And B4 Front wheel bearings are......... yep 3/16” x 3/8” :)

And as these axles are made to take B4 front wheel bearings Im pretty sure theyre gonna be the right width to take B4 front wheels.

The reason they picked that method is probably because there are less parts involved and the hub can be alot smaller as it doesn't have to accomodate the bearings, and with the option axles all the people that are swapping from a B4 can use all their wheels and tyres without having to buy all new fronts.

Its a very clever move by Tamiya :thumbsup:.

Migs 17-04-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367796)
It says here: 54220 TRF201 Front Axle (For 3/16” x 3/8” Bearings)

And B4 Front wheel bearings are......... yep 3/16” x 3/8” :)

And as these axles are made to take B4 front wheel bearings Im pretty sure theyre gonna be the right width to take B4 front wheels.
Its a very clever move by Tamiya :thumbsup:.

Sure its a smart move if thats the way it works out, but it doesnt say it in the part description, which is all people are saying, this is a problem tamiya have, their parts descriptions are often very poor, at least on the kyosho, they have a proline axel conversion, which means theres no ambiguity, you are probably correct, but its an assumption you have made, theres nothing for sure that the axels are set up to make the front end width correct with b4 rims

ApexSpeed 17-04-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Migs (Post 367798)
Sure its a smart move if thats the way it works out, but it doesnt say it in the part description, which is all people are saying, this is a problem tamiya have, their parts descriptions are often very poor, at least on the kyosho, they have a proline axel conversion, which means theres no ambiguity, you are probably correct, but its an assumption you have made, theres nothing for sure that the axels are set up to make the front end width correct with b4 rims

So, what other reason would they make Imperial bearing axles available as an option?





None.

Pretty easy assumption to make, if you ask me.

Migs 19-04-2010 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 367857)
So, what other reason would they make Imperial bearing axles available as an option?





None.

Pretty easy assumption to make, if you ask me.

I agree, its an assumption that can be made based on having imperial axels as an option, but i dont think the smugness of other posts was required

On a happy note, the Tamiya 2wd in the hands of Lee Martin at the first BRCA nationals on the weekend, good stuff!!

philpac 19-04-2010 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparrow.2 (Post 367735)
On our outdoor track an 8.5 is a tad on the slow side...

Hupo says otherwise :P

Clicky

Not sure whether you'd class the 2009 Euros track as slow though.

flipside 19-04-2010 08:16 AM

Don't forget 5300Mah 40C cells...

philpac 19-04-2010 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipside (Post 368231)
Don't forget 5300Mah 40C cells...


Good point :D


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