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qatmix 07-08-2009 09:52 AM

Tamiya DB01-R
 
This looks very good. If its anything like the -R TA05s this will be fantastic value and a great car :)

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/new...col=3#calendar

Features include

Tamiya DB01 loaded with hop-up parts!!

Comes with following Tamiya hop-up options:

54141 High Traction Lower Arm - DB01 Front (US$9)
54142 High Traction Lower Arm - DB01 Rear (US$9)
54140 DB01 Reinforced Drive Belt (US$7)
54036 DB01 Carbon Reinforced M Parts (US$9)
54040 DB01 Motor Heat Sink (US$12)
54028 TRF Buggy Dampers (US$110)
54037 DB01 Aluminium Sus Mount Front (US$20)
54038 DB01 Aluminium Sus Mount Rear (US$20)
54039 DB01 Aluminium Sus Block 2pcs (US$19.50)
50994 5mm Sus Ball (US$10)
54018 Slipper Clutch Set DB01 (US$42)
54015 Assembly Universal Shaft DB01 Front (US$35)
54016 Assembly Universal Shaft DB01 Rear (US$35)

Total Price for Hop-Up Parts Only, whooping US$337.50!!

Further more, DB01 R comes with following products

DB01 R Main Chassis (especially designed for DB01 R)
Aluminium Damper Bushing

Matisse 07-08-2009 10:00 AM

looks nice, :thumbsup:

interesting to see Tamiya getting behind rally cars whilst the rest of the world seems to be obsessed by Short Course trucks. do they know somthing we don't? Or is rally very popular in japan at the moment.

qatmix 07-08-2009 10:07 AM

Yeah the rally cars also look cool. But the -R means Race edition.

Matisse 07-08-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qatmix (Post 272577)
Yeah the rally cars also look cool. But the -R means Race edition.

race edition, mmmmmmmm

this may be the car to get me back into 10th, tired of waiting for a trf 2wd.

Dyna 07-08-2009 11:14 AM

Hmmm very nice.... :)

Nice to see them doing what they started with the TA04 - high end first, then base model, then hopped up base model into a mid-model...

Priced right, made widely available with a better spares back up and that could be an absolute belter of a buggy !

Its a shame they couldnt sort a TRF 2wd buggy out as well though :( Ive heard rumours of both rear and mid motored examples being tested over the last year or so, but never anything more than rumours. Shame tbh.

sosidge 07-08-2009 12:07 PM

Nice to see this make an appearance!

Spec seems a little short of where I thought it might be - still needs bars and a one-way to give you all the useful options.

I also hoped they would sort the shock towers to give the right travel for the TRF shocks.

Marvin 07-08-2009 12:11 PM

It's rather nice, it gives an option against the B-Max and Cyber 10B (I'm assuming that's where the price will be £200-250). Not everyone needs a centre one-way or roll bars, so that's fair enough, though the shock tower height could be an issue, unless they are using different length shocks at the back to the TRF501 shocks.

simoncook 07-08-2009 12:24 PM

Thats all very nice, and I might have to buy another DB-01.

A couple of questions though:-
1. Will it come with a body shell? - Doesn't show one in picture, but I guess yes
2. Will is still come with the same poor quality screws as the standard DB-01?
3. How much is it and when can I get one?

Matisse 07-08-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simoncook (Post 272633)
Thats all very nice, and I might have to buy another DB-01.

A couple of questions though:-
1. Will it come with a body shell? - Doesn't show one in picture, but I guess yes
2. Will is still come with the same poor quality screws as the standard DB-01?
3. How much is it and when can I get one?

er, in order, unknown, unknown and it's listed @ 36,540 yen which is about £225.

not released in japan until september, i'd imagine we might see it before xmas.

terry.sc 08-08-2009 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simoncook (Post 272633)
1. Will it come with a body shell? - Doesn't show one in picture, but I guess yes

It comes without a body, nor does it come with wheels or tyres.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Matisse (Post 272572)
interesting to see Tamiya getting behind rally cars whilst the rest of the world seems to be obsessed by Short Course trucks. do they know somthing we don't? Or is rally very popular in japan at the moment.

More like 1:1 CORR trucks are a popular sport only in the US. You might notice all the r/c companies making them are US based.

T4miy4 Guy 08-08-2009 08:32 AM

Nice, wish they released this first off!

Any pic`s of the new chassis?

:thumbsup:

Nige 08-08-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 272958)
Nice, wish they released this first off!

Any pic`s of the new chassis?

:thumbsup:


There's a link on the first post.......

T4miy4 Guy 08-08-2009 05:26 PM

clever dick!

A picture of the new chassis so i can compair the two!

ie...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...hassis01_t.jpg

:p

Nige 08-08-2009 05:56 PM

Believe it to be the same main chassis as the Baldre/Durga, it's just super hopped-up, so it shouldn't be any different to your photo.

T4miy4 Guy 08-08-2009 05:59 PM

Thought as much! cheers Nige:thumbsup:

DCM 08-08-2009 06:01 PM

I would of thought they would put the Graphite one on there, as it is, my DB-01 is better specced than that, if is hasn't, not that I got the graphite chassis.

Nige 08-08-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 273083)
I would of thought they would put the Graphite one on there, as it is, my DB-01 is better specced than that, if is hasn't, not that I got the graphite chassis.

Me too, but its not listed as a hop-up on the first post. An article on Tamiya USA explains how to make your DB01 competitive and the writer Andrew Kuntze (unfortunate surname) doesn't mention to replace the standard chassis with the graphite one either. If so it sounds like a pointless hop-up.

See here: http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/fe...article-id=414

:)

T4miy4 Guy 08-08-2009 07:09 PM

lol @ surname

Tbh yes its a good but old and too late release i my eye`s!!

I race this as a hopped up DB-01, all be it new to the game, they new all this before hand as the TRF501x was first , i hate a money spinner!!
Yes it`s a damn good 4WD but cheekie as it`s not new tech!

Baldre FTW :p

DCM 08-08-2009 07:25 PM

Although, if your car is getting worn out, it could be a good buy?

jimmy 08-08-2009 07:26 PM

awesome car! I might have to buy one. Body and Wheels need to be included in these cars though - the 511 was the same and it's NUTS to sell a buggy without them.

T4miy4 Guy 08-08-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 273107)
Although, if your car is getting worn out, it could be a good buy?


Expensive worn out option!

For me the worn out option next is the 501x :thumbsup:

Andy

DCM 08-08-2009 11:25 PM

I dunno about that, you are still looking at another £120 on top, at least, and to be honest, not sure what advantage you would get, as unless you get the 501X WE, you will be on the smaller pulleys too.

Fredrik Emilsson 09-08-2009 08:02 PM

Why choose 501X? Why not the TRF511?

I think it is good that you can choose your own body. It“s only $25 more.

Wonder if it has 501X outdrives and hex screws? It does“nt say anything about that.

TRF_AK 10-08-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 273091)
Me too, but its not listed as a hop-up on the first post. An article on Tamiya USA explains how to make your DB01 competitive and the writer Andrew Kuntze (unfortunate surname) doesn't mention to replace the standard chassis with the graphite one either. If so it sounds like a pointless hop-up.

See here: http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/fe...article-id=414

:)

First off, HEY!!!!, I resemble that remark (the name), and second....the chassis was never an item that has shown to be necessary since a lot of time in offroad racing you want more grip, and the additional flex found in the stock chassis is more preferred for most surfaces than the optional carbon reinforced piece. I hope this helps.

94eg! 10-08-2009 07:26 PM

Not everything has been mentioned in that list of hop-ups. For example, the TRF Aeration dampers are shown on the car, but not listed as a hop-up. Also, since the R kit includes the under-motor heatsink, it definitely does NOT come with the standard fiberglass tub. The description says it has a new chassis tub unique to the DB01-R. This should be interesting. I hope it has 501X outdrives too. I won't order till I see the manual...

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/84100db01r/top.jpg

DaveG28 10-08-2009 07:42 PM

How easy is it to get bodies?? Seems random, will the ver 1 race body fit?

Fredrik Emilsson 10-08-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 273758)
Not everything has been mentioned in that list of hop-ups. For example, the TRF Aeration dampers are shown on the car, but not listed as a hop-up. Also, since the R kit includes the under-motor heatsink, it definitely does NOT come with the standard fiberglass tub. The description says it has a new chassis tub unique to the DB01-R. This should be interesting. I hope it has 501X outdrives too. I won't order till I see the manual...

The 54028 TRF Buggy Dampers are listed.

cjm_2008 10-08-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 273758)
Not everything has been mentioned in that list of hop-ups. For example, the TRF Aeration dampers are shown on the car, but not listed as a hop-up. Also, since the R kit includes the under-motor heatsink, it definitely does NOT come with the standard fiberglass tub. The description says it has a new chassis tub unique to the DB01-R. This should be interesting. I hope it has 501X outdrives too. I won't order till I see the manual...

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/84100db01r/top.jpg

a new mould possibly to acommodate lipo?

I could have done with this a few months ago. would have saved me an hour farting around with a dremel!

94eg! 10-08-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik Emilsson (Post 273776)
The 54028 TRF Buggy Dampers are listed.

Ooops! :blush:

craigosh 10-08-2009 10:40 PM

Doubt its been moulded to take lipos, they've not taken off to well from what i was told buy the guys in Champ.

Tamiya make a LiFe pack which looks like a Nimh pack, so probably still designed to take that kind of shape.

Looks like its got the crap screws still as well.

knighthawk 11-08-2009 08:31 AM

Re the chassis and Lipo's

on the touring car side the new TA05IFS VII has a special chassis to accommodate Lipo's, they have moved the cells forward for better weight distribution.

so the DB-01R might have been designed with the same frame of mind, although the Japanese market is aimed at LIFE packs the rest of the world is Lipo and as Tamiya has a global market I wouldn't rule the new chassis out yet!!

DaveG28 12-08-2009 01:13 AM

Can the standard chassis not take Lipo's for some reason? Or is it just a weight distribution thing?

Crazy L 12-08-2009 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 274237)
Can the standard chassis not take Lipo's for some reason? Or is it just a weight distribution thing?

My Demon side exit wired packs fit just fine, despite what the BRCA say:mad:

knighthawk 12-08-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 274237)
Can the standard chassis not take Lipo's for some reason? Or is it just a weight distribution thing?

Have been told that the standard TA05IFS takes Lipos but the chassis was designed for 6Cell Nicad etc, the new chassis has the weight more forward in the chassis so not as much weight has to be put over the front end!

simoncrabb 12-08-2009 09:10 PM

LiPo's fit in my DB-01 kit chassis just fine. What did you need to dremel?

sim 19-08-2009 04:12 PM

From the list, it looks like Tamiya's just put together everything they're already manufacturing into an R package.

I doubt they're going to come out with another optional chassis. The DB-01 already got it's hop-up chassis - the carbon reinforced one. If they're going to make a lipo-friendly chassis, they're going to make it different enough to call it the DB-02 or DF-04 or TRF511X-MSXXX-MRE-WCE2009 so that they can sell us this lipo-update in the form of new kits to all us Tamiya schmucks. :lol:

T4miy4 Guy 19-08-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy L (Post 274245)
My Demon side exit wired packs fit just fine, despite what the BRCA say:mad:


I run these lipos in the DB-01, aren`t they allowed?

Crazy L 19-08-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 276899)
I run these lipos in the DB-01, aren`t they allowed?

No, they are legal in TC, but not off road :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:, however, this only applies to BRCA events, like regionals, Nats, etc, or so I'm led to believe. It's to do with the side exit wires, apparently, this makes them impossible to fit into buggies, :wtf:.

If club racing, I doubt anyone cares.

You'll also notice that all the BRCA "legal" packs are a touch more expensive:mad:.

Alas, I've detoured off topic a bit here, carry on guys

dimblum 19-08-2009 08:24 PM

New Tub
 
Tamiya says the tub for the DB01-R will be unique from the previous designs.. We know that they are keeping the undermotor heatsink plate (which is great by the way).. I am hoping they removed the battery vent slots from the existing Carbon Reinforced Chassis so that the only hole remaining is the one for the heatsink plate..

I love the Carbon Reinforced Chassis, but hate the battery vent slots since I use only hard case lipos.

A.J. Gee 20-08-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sim (Post 276857)
From the list, it looks like Tamiya's just put together everything they're already manufacturing into an R package.

I doubt they're going to come out with another optional chassis. The DB-01 already got it's hop-up chassis - the carbon reinforced one. If they're going to make a lipo-friendly chassis, they're going to make it different enough to call it the DB-02 or DF-04 or TRF511X-MSXXX-MRE-WCE2009 so that they can sell us this lipo-update in the form of new kits to all us Tamiya schmucks. :lol:


I second that notion, lol. It's so sad but true.:cry:


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