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jimmy 02-04-2014 03:43 PM

X6s - new 2WD from XFactory!
 
XFactory UK have announced the new Xfactory X6s - the new 2WD shaft driven mid-motor buggy. Often called cheater cars - similar layouts give an advantage on high-grip astro-turf tracks. Check out the distributor, www.xfactoryrc.co.uk

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s1.jpg

The team have been running the prototype cars during development recently and have already produced some great results....

Kevin Hunt took TQ and won the 2wd A final at the HNMC Winter series round 6 at Ware, and he also finished a fine 3rd place overall at the Silverstone Astro Masters final round in an A final packed with F1 grade and other factory drivers, Ed Kerry qualified and finished 2nd overall at the “Triple Crown” final round at Faversham and both Dan Greenwood and Kevin Hunt ran the cars at the BWOC event held at Silverstone both producing excellent results also.......

DMS200 – X6-S carbon fibre shaft drive chassis conversion kit – Level 1 – UK RRP £109.99
(pre-orders being taken now – expected release date week commencing 7th April)

DMS201 – X6-S carbon fibre shaft drive chassis conversion kit – Level 2 – UK RRP £179.99
(pre-orders being taken now – expected release date week commencing 21st April)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s2.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s3.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s4.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s5.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s6.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/x6s7.jpg

discothesnake 02-04-2014 04:32 PM

That is nice.

PaulRotheram 02-04-2014 04:47 PM

How ironic it is for very high grip.. yet has wet weather tyres fitted! :woot:

Looks good otherwise!

jimmy 02-04-2014 05:08 PM

Xfactory UK also distribute the Ballistic Buggy tyres - hence them being on there :thumbsup:
Looks nice - I just can't drive a 2WD any more - I can barely even drive!

shark 02-04-2014 05:55 PM

Team C TM2 has inspired a lot of cars ....................

Danthurstonrc 02-04-2014 06:23 PM

Looks nice! What's needed a whole b4 and b44.2 kit and the conversion?

Philim 02-04-2014 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shark (Post 849365)
Team C TM2 has inspired a lot of cars ....................

Or even the db1 perhaps

andy110m 02-04-2014 07:33 PM

It looks great with all the carbon so I hate to say it but it seems a bit pricey when you consider you need both cars, and if you do have both donors you could get a cobra chassis for £25?

What am I missing?

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danthurstonrc (Post 849373)
Looks nice! What's needed a whole b4 and b44.2 kit and the conversion?

All that is required is the B44.2 rear end and centre drive and the front from the X6 Cubed/B4 - whichever you choose to convert

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy110m (Post 849392)
It looks great with all the carbon so I hate to say it but it seems a bit pricey when you consider you need both cars, and if you do have both donors you could get a cobra chassis for £25?

What am I missing?

There is no real need to buy complete cars, certainly not two, in order to get what you need. The Level 1 conversion takes an X6 Cubed already owned to be converted, you would then only need the B44 parts..

The cobra chassis, as great as it is, is just that - a chassis - on its own. The X6-S is more than just the chassis with both conversions containing multiple parts and the level 2 includes all the X-factory parts required as well as a new body and wing also.

When just a carbon chassis for a B44.2 is just short of £80 a whole conversion for just over £100 in our opinion is not too bad at all.

Alloy was not the way we wanted to go with this project, we wanted to follow many of the design cues from the X6 Cubed with carbon for its lightweight and rigidity, combined with top decks for the required strength they bring without fear of any possible bending or tweaking seen on many alloy versions over the past 12-18 months, which is why our car is what it is.......

spenner 02-04-2014 08:09 PM

Always good to see people questioning a product...

It is exactly what it says on the tin, a conversion. So another nice option for people to run.

cmgreen 02-04-2014 08:43 PM

Are those losi shocks?

discostu 02-04-2014 08:53 PM

lets get this straight if I wanted one and had no donna cars I would need

B44..2 £290
B4.2 £190
X6 CUBED CONVERSION KIT £???
LEVEL 2 X6S CONVERSION £179

is this correct if so

WOW

discothesnake 02-04-2014 08:59 PM

You would need a b44.2 and a B4.2 or X6 cubed.

Expensive if you have none of these cars but to be fair, they are aimed at people who have these cars. As are the X6 and C4.2 etc.

All these conversions are similar. DB1 and DB2 are the same.

discostu 02-04-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discostu (Post 849428)
lets get this straight if I wanted one and had no donna cars I would need

B44..2 £290
B4.2 £190
X6 CUBED CONVERSION KIT £199
LEVEL 2 X6S CONVERSION £179

is this correct if so

WOW

a grand total of £858 Give or take

shit it wants to be good for that

on the plus side if you need any parts for the rear of b4 and front of b44 find your local x6s driver guaranteed to have spares.

the car looks pretty go tho

stu

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 849433)
You would need a b44.2 and a B4.2 or X6 cubed.

Expensive if you have none of these cars but to be fair, they are aimed at people who have these cars. As are the X6 and C4.2 etc.

All these conversions are similar. DB1 and DB2 are the same.

Thankyou someone with some comon sense who understands...

Why would anyone want a complete B44.2 kit, complete B4.2 kit, X6 Cubed kit and the Level 2 Conversion (which is for some one who DOES NOT have an X6 Cubed kit)???

As stated by those talking common sense, the conversion is aimed at two types of people, those with an X6 Cubed they wish to turn into forward motor or those with a B44 they wish to convert to 2wd, either way it is for someone who wants to convert somthing existing that they have...

If you "have" a B44.2 already, you buy the Level 2 conversion and a handful of B4.2 front end parts (front bulkhead, tower, steering, hubs, bumper etc - no shocks or bearings required these would be in your B44.2) approx £50/60 worth of parts maximum is is all you need.

If you "have" an X6 Cubed already, you buy the level 1 conversion and either the back end parts of a B44.2 or worst case a B44.2 kit and strip it...

Neither route is anywhere near £800+, that is just stupid/crazy to even put that........ :thumbdown:




So unless you are Stu, who has £858 he wants to spend, wants to have 8 Big Bore shock absorbers on his car, a complete steath B4 gearbox and rear end built up in is pitbox alongside the full B44.2 front end that he plans only to keep there for nostlagia purposes too and you too cannot be bothered with selling off any unused parts you dont require to your race friends or advertise them here on oOple for sale, then I think everyone else will be OK :D:p;)

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmgreen (Post 849425)
Are those losi shocks?

On the display model, yes they are TLR Big Bores, however most of our team have been using the AE Big Bores from the B44.2 in testing so far. The idea to fit the TLR's to the photo car was to show that they fit and are an option, since everyone will (hopefully) already assume that the AE BB's will fit anyhow.

The set up sheets for the car show details for both AE BB and TLR BB with an added space for other types of shocks that poeple may choose to run also...

xtreme-rc 02-04-2014 09:55 PM

X-S
 
Hi stu,
it was good , you only saw the rear!!!!lol
les

discostu 02-04-2014 09:56 PM

Like it

just putting into perspective that's all if you haven't already got any of the above and you want a new kit to race on super high grip that doesn't bend and has the quality factor.

I may have to pass this time as I have none of the above.

stu:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

discostu 02-04-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtreme-rc (Post 849454)
Hi stu,
it was good , you only saw the rear!!!!lol
les

ha ha that will make it one each then you look at the rear of my 22-4 ill look at the rear of your x6s LOL

stu

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discostu (Post 849456)
Like it

just putting into perspective that's all if you haven't already got any of the above and you want a new kit to race on super high grip that doesn't bend and has the quality factor.

I may have to pass this time as I have none of the above.

stu:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Glad you saw my comment at the bottom as tongue in cheek as it was intended...

It wont suit everyone, no car ever does, but it is another option out there for those who dont fancy one of the existing forawd motor options (none of which are "cheap" from new either it has to be said) or for someone who has a B44 or B4 (or even both) kicking around that they fancy converting into somthing new.. Lets face it in 4wd there are proably more second hand B44's kicking around than any other 4wd car and in 2wd I dread to think how many B4's are out there now sat doing nothing...

Judging by the pre-orders received already in just one afternoon, it seems to be going down quite well with the public already, which after all is what counts I guess...

discostu 02-04-2014 10:12 PM

I was very impressed when I saw eds and it was pretty good at the T Crown on its maiden voyage as you say it can only be a good thing having the option.

stu:thumbsup:

xtreme-rc 02-04-2014 10:19 PM

x-s
 
hi,
as darren suggests, ours was made from a B44 that was too old to sell, with just the b44.2 slipper shaft, it does not have to be a brand new kit.
les
xtreme

kartstuffer 02-04-2014 10:38 PM

I have an x6 squared and a b44, what else would I need and level one or two.

Darren Boyle 02-04-2014 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartstuffer (Post 849465)
I have an x6 squared and a b44, what else would I need and level one or two.

The Squared is not as much benefit to you as a Cubed would be, but still useful.....

You will need the following;

For the B44 - the B44.2 centre layshaft (AS9910), B44.2 centre rear CVD driveshaft AS9911), VTS slipper clutch (AS91175 or Avid equivalent) and the B44.2 centre gear cover (AS9913 or equivalent) - approx cost for all four parts £33

Your X6 Squared front suspenion and steering can all be used, but what the Squared does not have that the Cubed would have is the Graphite Nose Piece, Carbon chassis stiffeners etc, antenna mount, alloy top deck mounts, top deck posts, battery posts, Cubed body and wing, but ALL of these come in the Level 2 set, so in your scenario, the Level 2 is what you would require.

Hope that helps.......

Col 03-04-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Boyle (Post 849473)
The Squared is not as much benefit to you as a Cubed would be, but still useful.....

You will need the following;

For the B44 - the B44.2 centre layshaft (AS9910), B44.2 centre rear CVD driveshaft AS9911), VTS slipper clutch (AS91175 or Avid equivalent) and the B44.2 centre gear cover (AS9913 or equivalent) - approx cost for all four parts £33

Your X6 Squared front suspenion and steering can all be used, but what the Squared does not have that the Cubed would have is the Graphite Nose Piece, Carbon chassis stiffeners etc, antenna mount, alloy top deck mounts, top deck posts, battery posts, Cubed body and wing, but ALL of these come in the Level 2 set, so in your scenario, the Level 2 is what you would require.

Hope that helps.......

Same sounds like it would apply to my old B44 and B4? Both originals, not .1 or .2's?

Darren Boyle 03-04-2014 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 849665)
Same sounds like it would apply to my old B44 and B4? Both originals, not .1 or .2's?

Indeed that is right Col, same would apply to a B44 and B4 combo.

Level 2 conversion and the few B44.2 parts listed as per above would be what is required.....

i4n 04-04-2014 05:17 PM

Darren, would it be possible to put a complete car kit together? Bring all the items together from the donor cars as spares so those that would like one but don't own a B44 etc. can just order one thing?

Darren Boyle 04-04-2014 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i4n (Post 849849)
Darren, would it be possible to put a complete car kit together? Bring all the items together from the donor cars as spares so those that would like one but don't own a B44 etc. can just order one thing?

Sadly that would be almost impossible for us to do, building a "whole" car from spares would work out extremely expensive (probably financially better to buy a B44.2 as a donor then source the X6 Cubed/B4 front end, selling off what parts from the B44.2 front that are not used).

As said earlier in the thread, it is designed to be a conversion for those either with a B44.2 OR an X6 Cubed already, without the manufacturing facilities and having to rely on OEM supply from either the likes of AE or even a distributor would make putting a complete car together impractical and that is before you look at the logistics such as full step by step instruction manuals, kits boxing and packaging etc etc....

budfish 05-04-2014 11:35 AM

It looks the mutts nuts. Bet it turns on a 10 pence piece:thumbsup:


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