Serpent 811-Be Build Thread
 

As the new Serpent 811-Be is about to arrive, and as ive been asked by a few to do a build blog I though I may as well do one, especially as the serpent is rather unheard of on UK tracks it be good to let you all know what I think of this kit during the build process.

First of all those who havent seen the serpent yet, take a look here -
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The Serpent is due for delivery today (Hopefully I wont miss it as im out later :thumbdown:) I thought id start with a build area to keep its as easy as possible to access everything I need. Ive also included some of the electrics going in the kit.

I will apologise right now as the camera used is Via an Iphone as my Canon is not available right now.

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Look forward to seeing the build. It looks an amazing car and im tempted to get one myself.

Ive run the nitro version a very good car indeed :thumbsup:

I hope it arrives today and you don't get any delays, looking forward to seeing and hearing how this goes together !

Well good news! Parcel arrived, first impressions was for an 8th scale was expecting a bigger package :D everything is packed neatly and from intial glances it looks like a quality kits machined parts are better than expected and its certainly built for the rugged 1/8th conditions!

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Instruction Manual is a full colour booklet and is very clear and easy to follow.
The chassis is VERY nice indeed and finished off extremely well!

Included are 2 pages of decals and a blank setup sheet to photocopy. :thumbsup:

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Just reading your thread for where to buy an 811 be and spotted this post
http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...77&postcount=6

You claim you txt elite rc racing for a price and was told £500. My dad runs elite rc racing and has never had a txt asking about the price of the 811 be. The price of the car is £435. So you cant have txt him.

If I had known that id have ordered :thumbdown: via elite rc website is a mobile number and got a responce saying £500 :o

In another thread I also advised that I'd spoken to a guy at Elite-Rc and he confirmed the price was also £435. Who did you txt Lip. Lol

ITS A LAND LINE NUMBER ON THE WEBSITE NOT A MOBILE :confused:

Why did you text a model shop? Didn't know people do that.

The kit looks sweet too by the way. Be nice to see it finished

That's fifty quid cheaper than the other UK Stockist I approached and got a price from. £435 is the same as the Nitro one too, nice to see them keeping it level !

Are we going to see some more parts out of the packets ?..................:thumbsup:

How much did you end up paying with postage and customs?

Come on Lip, you've been going on about this for ages. Progress shots please :thumbsup:

Looks like the price has dropped then as he told me a couple of months ago it was £495.
When I return to the UK I will have to confirm this as seriuosly want to get this kit. So can you confirm the price is £435 with VAT?

Just to be clear, are you saying eliterc are selling the 811-be at £435?

Regards,
Pedro

Yes £435 for the 811 be
Call my dad on 01422 370811 elite rc racing he is open from 09.30

Any updates on this build Lip? Nice soldering job on the RX8 by the way, was deciding myself what would be the best way to install the beast.

Thats why I posted a pic, ive become quite skilled with a soldering iron :lol:

If anyone has any particular shots they want let me know :thumbsup:

Motor mount fitted...

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Diff Parts...

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center diff....

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A quick tip, the front and rear diffs are completely identical, so when built keep a note of which goes where.

the kit came with a seperate sheet with the new shimming method which was great, secondly the diffs went together than any other diff ive built before, there is no way on earth you can strip a case or strip the thread, the crown locks down perfectly and is easy to see what needs adjusting

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Nice it's just making me sick watching this:cry:

the only part that appears "low quality" are the bearings its being mentioned before but I will certainly be ordering a different set of bearings.

As you can see below there are red m3 countersunk washers, these were £4.50 for 20 on ebay and match the red/black/white theme im going for.

serpents pack of 20 costs £18....no brainer really.

There is nothing binding or catching the rear moves effortlessly and doesnt grab at any point. the turnbuckles are a doddle to measure up so long as you have an measuring gauge.

Adjusting the rear wing takes about 30 seconds with just two screws and move it to the other hole.

A couple of the longer screws took some effort to get in there, I was almost needing a 2mm tip :D

Another plus ive noticed are all the boots are included all round and a 16t pinion also included.

the rear end complete....

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yours will be here for friday! :thumbsup:

Final update now for a couple of days as im busy for a while.

Plan is 1 day for front end, 1 day for electrics install, 1 day for setting up and getting race ready.

final pics are of the complete rear end done, ive skipped a load of bits so I could finish the rear end, any close ups or requests for anything let me know and as its being built ill snap a few shots as i get carried away and build to much without snapping.

the 16mm shocks are insane, ive gone through half a bottle of shock oil on just the rears. they setup really well and managed to get equal rebound each side, my first thoughts from playing with them is id like it to be more responsive im thinking of glueing pistons up and drilling a few out to get it softer, im also going to get a softer springs as the rears come with the hardest supplied. used 30wt oil on rears planning on 35wt for fronts.

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Looking good :thumbsup:.

Not sure if you've seen this, its a mod to the pinion that gets done on the truggy, not sure if the buggy needs it. You basically put a shim behind the pinion to push it further into the ring gear.

Have a look, its down towards the bottom,and shows the pinion with extender being put in a vice :cry::woot:

Looks rather Marvelous i must say.

Have you managed to seal all of the carbon bits? A small amount of cyan goes a long way to preventing failures.
It sure does look good though. :wub

I would also put longer screws through the camber links on the towers with a nylock on the other side of the kit nut. There an issue on the truggy with the kit nut/ball undoing, not sure if it does it on the buggy.

Good that Serpent have a full thread space back again, with more coverage the snakes can only get stronger in the UK.
Mine will be delivered early next week, possibly Tuesday. £439 from Jeff at EliteRC. :thumbsup:
Now just need to decide wether I go Tekin or the new LRP for the esc/motor.
Nice to see people come up with build tips etc, keep them coming.

Next update.

Firstly keep the seperate shimming sheet handy, when I was building the front diff cases I realised I hadnt shimmed the mesh on the rear as descirbed. So now I have to take it out for a second attempt :lol:

Firstly the nice touch with the lipo trays is some slim padding, as for size I have fitted some 6500mah lipos and they are snug and well protected, so no lipo fires and pins through the case (matt I know your reading this while poorly GWS!)

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Start on the front section...

Everything seems solid and the turnbuckles went together without a hitch, finish is top notch :thumbsup: will upgrade to titanium when I get some money :lol:

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One thing I feel is missing for the fronts are driveshaft boots, I feel they are required but not included.

Steering went together effortlessly again and its clear its well thought out and will be very reliable. unlike my dex410 when built hand slop and movement meaning I needed to do some fabrication these have no slop yet still move with little effort from side to side.

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Rollbars are ingenious and have a bearing each side to ensure consistent smooth operation

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Final update tonight.

I decided to have a fiddle with the steering section, first part that impressed me was the sealed RX box to protect it, im going to pad it out to ensure any vibrations dont affect it, secondly the neat wire soloution where servo and PT wires run under the box and up into the RX box, hopefully the pictures explain this better, its neet indeed!

Secondly the servo horn itself, i wanted to keep my answer rc horn on rather than a plastic one, so I placed the 2mm spacers behind servo so it doesnt catch with the mount itself, then I used a countersunk washer to scre through so I can mount the steering arm. the soloution works well, there is 1mm clearance behind the screw to the servo, I just need a longer screw so it grabs the M3 nut on the otherside.

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what did your come out at with customs?

That's price is not far off from what you paid?

builds looking great mate, get those carbon edges sealed up with some super glue,

The carbon towers are strong but because i like shiny bits i fitted the ali towers to my nitro version. Also may i suggest at some point getting the webbed membranes http://www.serpent.com/product/600357/. I felt these made the shocks more consistant and also i fitted the coned pistons.

When do you think the build will be done Lip?

Thanks for the info Johnboy. Are there any recommended spares to carry like the servo saver and arm, or other option parts like the different sway bars and Ackerman option steering links?