New Schumacher 4wd
 

Ive heard recently from a reliable source who knows Robin Schumacher that there is a new Schumacher 4wd in the pipeline. No further information Im aware of but I could speculate that it may be based on the Mi3 Touring car which has been exellent since its release around Christmas time.
Anybody else heard anything?

Will, not to burst your bubble but the Mi3 has some issue's, and if they insist on basing in on a TC platform without some serious reworking of the bulkheads, be a big white elephant.

The xxx4 was based on the losi touring car, never was a great success on the rough stuff. Touring cars and off road needs are entirely different so why base an off road car on a touring car? doesn't make sense to me. xx4 was not based on a touring car look what an amazing car that is.

Would be good to see yet another 4wd in the market which has suddenly took off.

no, you are near but still wide of the mark Ryan, with the XXX4 they weren't jsut stuck with the drivetrain but also the chassis, which did work on flat blue grooved tracks.

Now, the only thing they could use is the pulleys from the Mi3, the layshaft is no good, it isn't up to it in TC, let alone off-road.

Is this the layshaft that is only attached on one side?

yes.

Be nice if they do make another 4wd, the cat was great;)

the Cat was and still is ace, the Mission was an off-shoot to an extent, but I can't see other than the pulleys being taken from the Mi3 to a new buggy, but then the pulleys are nearly the same as the Cat3000

whys the shoe maker thread in the AE threads?

I was thinking exactly the same thing... :p

eh, what, no it isnt :cool: ;)

doughty and lee gone a bit nuts i think :eh?: need to stop sniffing the tyre glue or something :rolleyes: :D

mahahaha...

DCM, you're quite correct that the Mi3 layshaft wouldn't be much use in an off rd car - but do tell me what is wrong with it for touring cars???
and the bulkheads??

Go on Matt;)

it drops, it could of done with a beefier screw fixing, otherwise it is a lot of pressure on an M3 screw to hold the layshaft in place. The bulkheads just don't seem suitable for off-road use, plus the way the suspension is mounted.

So if Schumacher WERE to make a 4wd buggy, they would need to make new bulkheads, front and rear, new layshaft mount, steering, dare I say, weight distribution too. If they were to slap a set ouf tall shock towers and buggy wishbones, they might as well not bother.

I do wish they go for a 4wd buggy though.

drops?? hmm, must keep an eye on that one. So far mine has been fine running 3.5 brushless, and no spur gear issues at all running 64dp. but you can never be too careful.

I still don't see any massive problems with the bulkheads. Weight distribution is fairly easy to work with. Everyone knows that "stick pack" doesn't generally work for off rd.

I wouldn't be 'convinced' of the bearing carriers staying put with the top loading bulkeads, not entirely convinced on them in a TC but time will tell.

I just hope they just don't do a parts bin special to make a buggy, if you get my drift.

mmmm schumacher making a new 4wd, buggy maybe, well maybe they should scrap all the junk they made since the last great buggy they made, the bosscat, and the cars that followed were pretty poor and badly designed.

Sorry but its a fact. The Cat had an awful front end and yes it wasnt a very strong car. Yes it made the basildon worlds A and yes Ben Sturnham made 2nd (Kevin Moore was really 3rd) but still not a good design. Great drivers make the As with bricks. Well Ben was a great driver as he managed to beat Brian Kinwald with a schumacher crappy designed 2wd at the Bristish Grand Prix not long after the worlds, (unsure if it was 1995 but wasnt 93 as kinwald raced a pred in 4wd) which wasnt designed well in the first place.

The design team needs to wake up and look properly at the opposition and design something new and fresh and not copy bits from all the other manufacturers, but design a proper racer like the XLS, and improve it properly like the Bosscat.

Maybe then it may be more popular again.

I think you should say how you feel welshy and get off the fence:D