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grelland 28-04-2011 06:46 AM

B4 Vega Setup
 
Hi there.

My B4.1 Vega arrived a couple of weeks ago, but I am still waiting for some diff parts since I had the non-.1 version of B4, so I have not been able to run the car yet.

However, I still find no info on setups. I was kind of expecting some setup info with the kit, but as it turned out, there was no, absolutely no, info included in the kit, so I have done my best to guess how it all comes together, as there were not even assembly instructions...

So... Does anybody have any setup info to share? I run on a quite bumpy astro-track.

Roy, Norway

Rebelrc 28-04-2011 11:36 AM

the kit needs no instructions Roy
children have made them:thumbsup:

grelland 28-04-2011 11:54 AM

I agree it went together nicely, but still... ;)

MHeadling 28-04-2011 12:54 PM

I agree with Rebel, customers who buy this type of racing product should know there way round a race car and a 2wd, anyway they drop together!

As for set ups speak to nicVegachild on this forum, he will help.

It's early days for the car so set ups will come through no doubt!

I would go with your STD B4 set up and go from there. Maybe take a look at the Vega Kyosho set ups and compare set ups with the B4, there are spring comparison charts Petit Rc so you can get a set up similar to the Kyosho shocks

Roel 28-04-2011 01:49 PM

If you don't want to wait for the parts to arrive, like me, with a creative solution, you can run the Vega with a b4 diff.

I also have a Vega 4.1 and a B4 donor car, with 2 shock o-rings and a metal shim on the outdrive before the bearing it fits the 4.1 gearbox quite nicely.

I ran a few nights now and it still holds up.

I have ordered the b4.1 outdrives and will change them once they arrive but for time being this works.

For our clay track I run piston 2 + 30wt all round, silver springs on the front, as we have dust on the track I swapped silver in the rear for a softer green spring.
It runs pretty good on our track, much more rear traction than a b4.

grelland 28-04-2011 09:09 PM

thanks for the input, even though I have no particular credentials to speak about, I will also post my setups and experiences as I move forward :)

nicVEGAchildJR 29-04-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 495573)
I agree with Rebel, customers who buy this type of racing product should know there way round a race car and a 2wd, anyway they drop together!

As for set ups speak to nicVegachild on this forum, he will help.

It's early days for the car so set ups will come through no doubt!

I would go with your STD B4 set up and go from there. Maybe take a look at the Vega Kyosho set ups and compare set ups with the B4, there are spring comparison charts Petit Rc so you can get a set up similar to the Kyosho shocks

i allready have setups for two different types of carpet, high grip astro, astro and tarmac mixed and many more.
it is easier for me to email a set up sheet than it is to write it all out on here so PM me if you need a setup

grelland 29-04-2011 08:21 PM

I already have your setup, I just wanted to know if there are more people out there than you and I that run this car, and what experiences they might have at this time :)

nicVEGAchildJR 29-04-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelland (Post 496188)
I already have your setup, I just wanted to know if there are more people out there than you and I that run this car, and what experiences they might have at this time :)

The setup I have now has about 7 changes all making it better

grelland 29-04-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 495526)
the kit needs no instructions Roy
children have made them:thumbsup:

And looking at pictures of nicVEGAchildJR's car, I realised that I put the rear A-arms on backwards... So I guess some instructions would come in handy afterall...

grelland 29-04-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicVEGAchildJR (Post 496189)
The setup I have now has about 7 changes all making it better

pls send me the updated one, then :D

Rebelrc 04-05-2011 06:00 AM

Instructions especially for your lol
How did you mount the shocks then?
Maybe you should stop typing and look at Rc cars a bit lol!:lol:

grelland 04-05-2011 01:37 PM

hehe, well I had the rear A-arms the wrong way around (well actually the right way, when looking at a B4), so I simply mounted the shocks in front of the A-arms. Like on a B4...

nicVEGAchildJR 04-05-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelland (Post 497872)
hehe, well I had the rear A-arms the wrong way around (well actually the right way, when looking at a B4), so I simply mounted the shocks in front of the A-arms. Like on a B4...

You need to put the right hub on da right and da left on da left

grelland 04-05-2011 07:31 PM

NOW I know that, but I have built an X6, and there it is the other way around, so I guess my questions about instructions are not THAT stupid afterall...

grelland 10-05-2011 11:59 AM

And yesterday when I finally received the last few parts for my gearbox, I found out that I need to heavily dremel the rear a-arms to clear the outdrives...

So an instruction sheet is still a lousy idea???

man, I am starting to have some bad feelings for this car, even before I have tried it. Let's hope it runs as well as it looks...

RudeTony 10-05-2011 01:21 PM

Grelland
What level of racing are you at??

grelland 10-05-2011 01:46 PM

What can I say... I started out with rc-racing in 1982, and have been on and off ever since. I have worked on quite a few different cars, and even have a couple of podium placements in the Norwegian Championships over the years. So I am not a novice... And don't get me wrong, I do know how to put this car together, but why is there so much opposition of the general idea of some simple instructions????

Look at X-factory, they make excellent instructions for their conversion kits...

But back to the topic, which is setup sheets, of which I have only seen two so far. From a guy who does not want to share his racing credentials with the rest of us...

RudeTony 10-05-2011 01:51 PM

If Imay give you some simple advice on the Vega B4.
Run your normal set up as you would normally have your car but slighly softer rear and slightly harder front.
You will find this is the most simple way to get the Vega to work real good.
This is what we have done on the Kysho RB5 versions and they are great - The B4 is not much different car.
If the car is nervous then add weight
All the best and i think you will find you will really enjoy the Vega.
I don't know anyone that has not liked it.

Lastly - I say if you have a Vega you don't need instruction - LOL

Scotty 10-05-2011 04:47 PM

General Setup*
Vega Elite B4.1

Running with 3.0 Degree toe block and 0.5 hubs.
Also running 1 anti squat.

Front Sus
2 Pistons
Associated 35w
Middle Top*
Inner Bottom
Blue Springs

Rear Sus
1 Pistons
Associated 30w
Middle Top
Inner Bottom
Silver springs

Orca Version 2 Pro
Orion 7.5 81/24

Tyres
Front
Shumacher Staggers
Slim Rim No inserts

Rear*
Shumacher Minispikes Yellow
Medium Answer Inserts

Under Servo Weight
28g Rudebits

Under Speedo Weight
92g Rudebits

Under Lipo Weight
62g Rudebits
( Put in to smoothen on ruff tracks or make car less twitchy )

Move shock positions for more or less grip*
Also shorten or lengthen camber links front and rear to generate more or less grip

Try this for a start seems to work for me.


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