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pugboy 11-09-2008 12:33 PM

Looks a great venue.

What about a sand filling in the hoses in sections, say 3m long sections that could be dragged into position from a store once the carpet is down.

Cheers

Chris

DanW 11-09-2008 04:45 PM

In the old days of the Liverpool club we used to have sand filled hoses.

They are quite good for staying in position, but to be flexible enough to bend round corners you can only half fill them. hence they tend to be a bit flat and don't do much to stop cars straying over.

It might be an idea to fill the first 2 metres packed full of sand, then clamp the next 4 inches closed (with nuts and bolts or soemthing), then fill the next 2 metres full and clamp the next 4 inches closed etc etc.

You could make up full lengths of hose then, that are sturdy and heavy but have flexible joints at section intervals to allow folding up and bending around corners.

WHITTLER555 11-09-2008 05:14 PM

Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, as regards flooring, the pictures look like it is rubberised, I just wonder what damage a car could do to the floor if it turned upside down at speed, probably cut the floor and break the car.

I have a potential solution though that could help. I will PM you some info.:thumbsup:

burgie 11-09-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 158730)
Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, .....:thumbsup:

I agree...i have always struggled to find winter racing in the northwest :p

The race controller 11-09-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 158730)
Woody, Roger, this looks like the answer to Winter racing in the North West, as regards flooring, the pictures look like it is rubberised, I just wonder what damage a car could do to the floor if it turned upside down at speed, probably cut the floor and break the car.

I have a potential solution though that could help. I will PM you some info.:thumbsup:

Do you mean the shock tower protectors i.e clear bottle/lexan as a shock absorber.

WHITTLER555 11-09-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by burgie (Post 158774)
I agree...i have always struggled to find winter racing in the northwest :p

Hello Burgie, I guess you are referring to Southport, which is fair enough.

It takes me about 1hr 15mins to get to Southport or 1hr 45mins to go to Worksop, no offence but Worksop is somewhat larger, unless you have moved from the school where the Southport Supercup takes place.

I know size is not everything.....

If Bury get this venue and it is suitable it will take me 30mins to get there, I am sure you will agree that if your track was not as local to you, you might think twice about driving a fair way on a cold winters morning BRRRRR!!!:p

Chrislong 14-09-2008 10:06 PM

Good news on the venue. What is the address? I don't recognise it.

Any testing, visiting, help needed, so let me or my dad know.

It looks like a Schumacher Minipin surface - in that it looks like Worksop, they don't mark that surface but without testing I wouldn't presume that they won't mark this. Is there any carpet available to lay down if it does mark easily?

Chris

The race controller 15-09-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 158335)
I've got eight fire hoses. All we need to know now is HOW DO WE GET IT TO STAND UP.

No! Viagra won't work...

There's going to be a lot of work involved with the steel brackets so I've been playing with inflating them. Really good, nice bends or curves and the more air the straighter they get. Unfortunately I can't seem to seal the ends. Best result yet is a bracket welded out of two bits of angle iron and bolts through one side to form a vice. Again more welding. AND the air valves seem to be like rocking horse s h one t. ...............Any volunteers ??

_sleigh_ 15-09-2008 01:13 PM

This may not be cost effective for the club, but could you not look at the same track making idea as Worksop. I believe this is up-turned guttering in 3m or 5m lengths, with gaffer taped joints.

bigred5765 15-09-2008 01:26 PM

get some old motorcycle inner tubes and cut out the valves you can put them through from one end and the nut that would go on the outside of the rim goes on the out side of the tube, to seal the end's, add silicone sealer at the end fold over and roll up once or twice and clamp with a mole gripp, or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that

The race controller 15-09-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 159646)
get some old motorcycle inner tubes and cut out the valves you can put them through from one end and the nut that would go on the outside of the rim goes on the out side of the tube, to seal the end's, add silicone sealer at the end fold over and roll up once or twice and clamp with a mole gripp, or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that

.....That what ?...Leaks. yeh been there.

MikePimlott 15-09-2008 01:33 PM

Why fill them with air ?

Use builders foam a little squirt here and there and it holds them up. Sets hard and its light so easy to carry and store

The race controller 15-09-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePimlott (Post 159652)
Why fill them with air ?

Use builders foam a little squirt here and there and it holds them up. Sets hard and its light so easy to carry and store

Might be light but think of the volume. Eight hoses ????
Think back Mike, at Leigh we had TWO hoses half filled with blocks of wood and they took up half a container.

bigred5765 15-09-2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 159651)
.....That what ?...Leaks. yeh been there.

or make a round bung silicone it in and jubilee clip that

MikePimlott 15-09-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 159653)
Might be light but think of the volume. Eight hoses ????

You dont need to fill the entire hose. Just a squirt every meter or so would be plenty.

Stu 16-09-2008 08:09 PM

Venue looks great. Bit difficult to gauge size but it certainly looks big enough.

Hose looks good - is it old West Craven stuff - looks familiar.

Why does it have to stand up? For club racing if someone decided to start cutting the track - well - the jokes on them. If it is the old West Craven stuff we just used to lay it out in the sports hall at Towneley school and let it flop about in loops to make the track - it was no problem - it's only a track marker.

It may be a little difficlt to see - red on red - spray it white with some car paint?

sly 16-09-2008 09:20 PM

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woOdy 17-09-2008 10:55 AM

We are going down for 14:00 today to see if the car marks the floor and hopfully we will get some date with the manager of the building so hopefully we will know soon!:thumbsup:

woOdy 17-09-2008 02:25 PM

It has been booked! IT is the big place in the pictures and there is loads of grip. We had worn minispikes on and it was cool. The first meeting is on the 2nd november and doors open at 10 and racing should start at 11 ish. There is a couple of rules though! You can only drink water in the main hall. NO playing in the sand pit and Do not brake anything. It been over 15 years since we had an indoor venue and this is 1 of the best I have ever seen. Much like Worksop but grippier and brand new. More info to follow.

bigred5765 17-09-2008 02:38 PM

well Stu you can book Matty in 2wd for a start, thanks for putting in the effort guys, it is appreciated cant wait now,


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