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Bluestreak 19-12-2013 11:27 AM

Hyper H2 pro views??
 
I'm possibly in the market for a new 2wd and saw this

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-h2...roducts/372141

Looks a great kit for the money, was just wondering what you guys think of the car, also what are parts costs, support etc like in the UK.

fidspeed 19-12-2013 03:50 PM

try MB models in leeds they were doing a fair bit cheaper than that and stock spares

some losi22 parts are direct fit
dave

charlesk 19-12-2013 04:55 PM

Parts support is good (CML as distributor does a good job) and they are quite cheap. It's a v.good car for the money, that can be v.competitive when setup and driver right. Has tolerated my poor driving v.well.
As above, if you do buy one new, buy one from MB (or used there is a few for sale).

madmax 19-12-2013 08:16 PM

I have ran one all this season and I carnt fault it, their are a few mods you need to do but that is the same with any car out their.
you best bet is to get one if you need a set up we are all here to help.

Bluestreak 19-12-2013 09:37 PM

Thanks guys, found one at wheelspin an mb models for £119 :thumbsup: so am sorely tempted.



Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 823791)
I have ran one all this season and I carnt fault it, their are a few mods you need to do but that is the same with any car out their.
you best bet is to get one if you need a set up we are all here to help.


What sort of mods are needed??

wookieewonder 19-12-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluestreak (Post 823812)
Thanks guys, found one at wheelspin an mb models for £119 :thumbsup: so am sorely tempted.






What sort of mods are needed??

Crush tubes in rear hubs. Front wheels tend to fly off easily, I use a long bolt through the hub with washer and nut to keep front wheels on. Manual is wrong in places. Rear shock shafts are a bit short (unscrew shock eyelet for more droop). Really good car for the money!:thumbsup:

On a side note does anyone know if the inner camber link height is set at neutral? No inner camber link washers mentioned in manual. The Losi 22 has 2mm as standard this car has none as standard, should I raise it to 2mm?? Thanks!

vinny20 19-12-2013 11:04 PM

Iv ran this all season and I will say it's faultless quality performance for the price and materials used on the kit it is strong and for the money you cant beat it its very good. Iv used kit spring most of the season and they work fine corner speed speed is good as well as the steering it's very quick. Going on the jumps it's just as good and straight line speed is fas in my view this car is just as good as your kyoshos , Durango. Ect I was racing this car 3 races before the Batley supercup qualified 9th and finished 2nd that's the best result iv had with this car so far.

wookieewonder 20-12-2013 07:41 AM

Few more mods/ things with the h2. Adjusting the anti squat blocks is a bit of a black art. It seems to be happiest with 3 degrees in mid motor config - more details on this in this hobao forum. Rear shock tower should be rounded side facing toward the front of the car with shocks placed to the rear of the wishbones in mid motor.

In mid motor, 4 gear tranny is best config, keeps motor in normal direction , not reverse! This is all missing from the manual.

I had problems with the front bulkhead tweaking slightly from an impact, causing the steering to go out. Fixed this by putting some thin rubber (party balloon) between aluminum chassis and plastic kick up shim to keep it from twisting.

Still a good car! All the mods are easy to do!

Bluestreak 20-12-2013 08:46 AM

Brilliant thanks guys.
Also are there any hop ups that are essential?? I've seen a few option parts on sites. Any good or are they just bling??

sly 20-12-2013 01:35 PM

From Standard mine has losi front hex bolts to hold the wheels on, Losi 22 drive shafts as the kit ones have had some failures and the losi driveshaft are a straight swap, crush tubes, i made mine from old 4x5x10 bearings and broke them down to use the center from them.

I built mine wrong from day 1 regarding the rear wishbones direction, and the drive shafts and wishbones are straigher coming from the gearbox and when i notice and tried it the correct way i found it miles better the wrong way.
Grub screw the rear hinge pin in the hub.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...psjz1gtvyn.jpg

I used a 8mm drill bit to drill by hand some of the center of the diff case to allow a shock o ring to be a better seal.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps8e38747e.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...psf4efd061.jpg

May layout has only ever been shorty and i have not found the need for changing it.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps61772ef1.jpg

wookieewonder 20-12-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sly (Post 823951)
From Standard mine has losi front hex bolts to hold the wheels on, Losi 22 drive shafts as the kit ones have had some failures and the losi driveshaft are a straight swap, crush tubes, i made mine from old 4x5x10 bearings and broke them down to use the center from them.

I built mine wrong from day 1 regarding the rear wishbones direction, and the drive shafts and wishbones are straigher coming from the gearbox and when i notice and tried it the correct way i found it miles better the wrong way.
Grub screw the rear hinge pin in the hub.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...psjz1gtvyn.jpg

I used a 8mm drill bit to drill by hand some of the center of the diff case to allow a shock o ring to be a better seal.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps8e38747e.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...psf4efd061.jpg

May layout has only ever been shorty and i have not found the need for changing it.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps61772ef1.jpg

How does the rear wish bone flipping make the car drive? I'm interested in doing this, but was worried it would make the car too long?

Bluestreak 20-12-2013 08:58 PM

great replies guys. :thumbsup:

Are any of the fancy alloy orange parts worth it?? or the lightened diff out drives?

Bluestreak 20-12-2013 09:04 PM

Great replies guys thanks.

Are any of the fancy orange parts, Alloy hubs, carriers etc any good or just bling.

wookieewonder 20-12-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluestreak (Post 824029)
Great replies guys thanks.

Are any of the fancy orange parts, Alloy hubs, carriers etc any good or just bling.

I would say just bling. You get Orange rear toe blocks and motor plate in the pro kit. The other bits are pricey, they may take out some of the slop but there are other and much cheaper ways to do that.

Bluestreak 20-12-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wookieewonder (Post 824042)
I would say just bling. You get Orange rear toe blocks and motor plate in the pro kit. The other bits are pricey, they may take out some of the slop but there are other and much cheaper ways to do that.

Thanks mate. Looks like its pretty good to go in kit form.:thumbsup:

sly 20-12-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wookieewonder (Post 824010)
How does the rear wish bone flipping make the car drive? I'm interested in doing this, but was worried it would make the car too long?

It stops the car from having to much forward drive due to the angle of the driveshafts thus giving you power on steering but still enough drive for high grip indoor astro and outdoor mid/high grip astro(weather dependant)

I do have front sx3 alloy 12.5 degree blocks so the camber link is as long as it can be, and the 20degree front bulkhead shim.

wookieewonder 21-12-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sly (Post 824064)
It stops the car from having to much forward drive due to the angle of the driveshafts thus giving you power on steering but still enough drive for high grip indoor astro and outdoor mid/high grip astro(weather dependant)

I do have front sx3 alloy 12.5 degree blocks so the camber link is as long as it can be, and the 20degree front bulkhead shim.

Just the job! Thanks for the advice, been looking for more on power steering, been racing on indoor carpet for the winter and too much rear end grip has been causing on power push. Will give this a go. Prob change it back when outdoor if damp though! :thumbsup:

vinny20 21-12-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluestreak (Post 824028)
great replies guys. :thumbsup:

Are any of the fancy alloy orange parts worth it?? or the lightened diff out drives?


?The car itself is worth buying in terms of price and performance you want to just give the car a try first pal then if you think its worth putting the fancy parts on then go for it ;)

Supercoolnothing 22-12-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluestreak (Post 824028)
great replies guys. :thumbsup:

Are any of the fancy alloy orange parts worth it?? or the lightened diff out drives?

The orange parts look nice but the car comes with the essential ones as standard. It also comes with the lightened diff outdrives as standard so don't waste your money on them.
Plenty of Losi 22 parts fit the car including the rear hubs which eliminates the play that the hobao ones have.

Bluestreak 22-12-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercoolnothing (Post 824309)
The orange parts look nice but the car comes with the essential ones as standard. It also comes with the lightened diff outdrives as standard so don't waste your money on them.
Plenty of Losi 22 parts fit the car including the rear hubs which eliminates the play that the hobao ones have.


Great info thanks mate, I'll knock the outdrives off the list. :thumbsup:


I am definitely coming round to this car more and more. I think the Mad Monkey will be staying stock and this will become my race car as it seems to have much more tuning opportunities. :lol:


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