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Mossy 13-04-2009 05:45 PM

Cov Regional 4wd
 
Sundays meeting on the grass or astro track?

Bungleaio 13-04-2009 05:54 PM

I really hope it's the grass

losixxx 13-04-2009 07:33 PM

its on the astro !

matdodd 13-04-2009 08:37 PM

Is that right Chris? :thumbdown: Iv been told different things from different people!

HarlowS 13-04-2009 08:40 PM

4wd is on astro, 2wd on grass

jayst 13-04-2009 08:58 PM

that blows :thumbdown:

RogerM 14-04-2009 12:16 PM

I'm probably alone in thinking this is a good thing, based purely on the fact that I've never driven on their grass track but have had loads of time on the astro.

HarlowS 14-04-2009 12:25 PM

Grass track was only really used for F3,4,5 Finals for elecrric so not many people have practiced on the grass.

IceMike 14-04-2009 12:37 PM

I think the grass track is awesome to drive on. it shouldnt matter that it has to be on the astro track because thats wot most people have practices on. its the best part of racing being on a new track with new things to learn about it. thats wot shows the best drivers because they can adapt.

warped 14-04-2009 03:14 PM

"Grass track was only really used for F3,4,5 Finals for elecrric so not many people have practiced on the grass."



Which is precisely why it would be fairer to run on the grass.

Bear in mind it's a regional meeting and not a Coventry club meeting, and also that practice is restricted to Coventry club members only.

Running on the Astroturf will favour local drivers heavily.

Not every club has an astroturf track. - Most people have access to grass though.

losixxx 14-04-2009 03:24 PM

[quote=warped;229532
Not every club has an astroturf track. - Most people have access to grass though.[/quote]


do they? were????

astro track has been used throughout the winter series so practise has been available. they held a meeting on it sunday just gone so your arguement doesnt hold up..

However i would have prefered the grass but hey ho will happily run on the astro

HarlowS 14-04-2009 03:30 PM

This will be a Regonal meeting, meaning that most of the drivers attending are from the 'Region'. Coventry run meetings through the year with the MAM series along with club meetings, also club members do get to practice at the track (which is obviously an advantage of being a 'club member'). Most of the drivers coming to the regional have raced on it over the winter, some drivers have joined the club to practice setting cars up. There is no unfairness in it at all, the track has been there for years allowing people to practice there at meetings. If you dont choose to utilise it then its hardly the clubs fault is it :confused:

HarlowS 14-04-2009 03:32 PM

Doh..... beat me to it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by losixxx (Post 229541)
do they? were????

astro track has been used throughout the winter series so practise has been available. they held a meeting on it sunday just gone so your arguement doesnt hold up..

However i would have prefered the grass but hey ho will happily run on the astro


warped 14-04-2009 04:12 PM

Hmm. Not sure I agree with all of that, but don't want to get into a big argument.

Posted this on the other thread, but no answer.

Will there be a 2wd class at this meeting?

(The old east mid regionals always used to have a 2wd class at 4wd regionals but couldnt see an option on the entry form.)

losixxx 14-04-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warped (Post 229561)
Hmm. Not sure I agree with all of that, but don't want to get into a big argument.


why not? 100% accurate.

track has been down and available to run on for years....at least 4 non club meetings have been run on it over the winter...

warped 14-04-2009 04:36 PM

losixxx, I meant I disagreed with the philosophy not the facts.

Just to give fuller explanation of where I'm coming from.

When I used to run East midlands regionals a few years back all the tracks were grass. They were all set up for the day, and nobody got more than a single 5 minute practice run on the day of the event. - The track was new for everybody and there was zero home track advantage.

Yes it is possible to attend other meetings on the astroturf at Coventry, but a permanent track will always give a home advantage. (For the record I'm a Coventry member as of last week.)

+ I think the grass is a lot better:thumbsup:

losixxx 14-04-2009 04:41 PM

but you can say the same for most Mid-West tracks, kiddy, ledbury, oswestry, coventry are all permanet tracks that give some advantage to regular users...but IMO the results would 99.9% of the time be the same what ever track is run..

DaveG28 14-04-2009 04:49 PM

I've never run on the Astro at Cov before, but have seen it, looks like there's plenty of layout options, presumably the layout for this weekend will be unique?

I'm not fussed which surface, but am surprised it's astro just because all the previous regionals I've done were on the grass!

Are schu yellows still order of the day and will any shops be there with Ballistics in case it's wet?

In fact, while on questions what time is booking in/practice??

Mossy 14-04-2009 04:56 PM

Is there any possiblity of running it on the Grass, obviously weather permitting?

Im not attempting to cause an argument, just thinking with Talywain not far away would be good practice for most people?

bert digler 14-04-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 229584)
Is there any possiblity of running it on the Grass, obviously weather permitting?

Im not attempting to cause an argument, just thinking with Talywain not far away would be good practice for most people?

it would be nice as everyone would like to race on the grass but the club stipulated at astromasters thingy it was on the astro so i think its bad news but hay at least you can imagine the layout:lol:

panch 14-04-2009 05:29 PM

Hey all..

Never raced at Cov before so will tackle whatever they throw at me anyway...if your good enough regardless of home advantage you will do ok.. :)

I must add that I also do prefer grass but am not fussed really, just want to race :)

See you all there..

Belsten 14-04-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losixxx (Post 229580)
but you can say the same for most Mid-West tracks, kiddy, ledbury, oswestry, coventry are all permanet tracks that give some advantage to regular users...but IMO the results would 99.9% of the time be the same what ever track is run..

totally agree, I have done all the mam meetings at cov bar the snowy one, thats my choice though and I am not a member and far from being a local, I do also like the grass track there, I have no preference which to race on though, unless its wet then astro all the way

panch 14-04-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 229581)
will any shops be there with Ballistics in case it's wet?

In fact, while on questions what time is booking in/practice??

Could anyone answer these questions please, also with regards to Balistic "Wet" tyres which compound do you guys find are the best ?

Thanks

Belsten 14-04-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panch (Post 229607)
Could anyone answer these questions please, also with regards to Balistic "Wet" tyres which compound do you guys find are the best ?

Thanks

greens fella, wet or dry :thumbsup:

panch 14-04-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belsten (Post 229611)
greens fella, wet or dry :thumbsup:


Cheers Belsten.. any particular insert ?

Belsten 14-04-2009 05:43 PM

shumacher green (medium) is a popular choice and the easiest to get hold of

Yardeeee 14-04-2009 05:50 PM

Hi Guys,

I'll drop in and try and give you some answers to things.

The track: The region never holds any influence over the track used at events, many clubs are not fortunate enough to have 2 different tracks. Due to this, it is entirely the choice of the host club as to which track is used for each event. When allocating meetings, as we are now aware, due to a lack of venues, we are going to 3 venues on 2 occasions during the year, one of these said venues is Coventry and it would seem logical that they wish to use their 2 tracks for the 2 events, a luxury many venues don't have. In addition to this, the thinking when awarding the opening event to coventry was that they COULD run the first event on their astro track if the weather was poor as is likely in the UK during april. So they appear to have decided to run the 4wd event on the astroturf, and it is their right to do this. It is also their right if they wish to hold the 2 events on the grass, which if the situation changes I'm sure they will let us know in time. (to make it clear, regardless of which track is chosen, the same controlled tyres will apply: bb spikes and schumacher minispikes) I understand some people's concerns about the astro track, it is limited in terms of layout and is also very technical but it is another option within the region and we should be grateful of that.

Timetable: We are heading towards 70 entries for sunday, which is great, thank-you all for your support. Therefore we will look to get things moving and will aim to get booking-in under way some time between 8 and 8.15. 5 min practice in heat order will then commence at 8.45am followed by drivers briefing and hopefully qualifying will get underway by 10am.

2WD heat: until now, no-one has requested a 2wd heat, so currently we have no intention of having a 2wd heat. As said, the entry is quite big in the context of a regional event so it may not be logistically viable, for those that don't know, we have 3 legged A finals at MW regionals so we have to take timings into account.

See you all sunday :)

losixxx 14-04-2009 06:01 PM

is there any reason why he can't run his 2wd at 4wd weight and points score?

Yardeeee 14-04-2009 06:02 PM

He can by all means do that yes if he is not entering with a 4wd car

DaveG28 14-04-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 229584)
Is there any possiblity of running it on the Grass, obviously weather permitting?

Im not attempting to cause an argument, just thinking with Talywain not far away would be good practice for most people?

Apparently Taly is mainly Astro now anyway (only just saw!), so maybe Astro is the way to go in that score anyway!

Cheers for the info Tom! Good news on the entries!

tyreman 14-04-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 229584)
Is there any possiblity of running it on the Grass, obviously weather permitting?

Im not attempting to cause an argument, just thinking with Talywain not far away would be good practice for most people?

Isn't Tallywain 75% astro now.

Bungleaio 14-04-2009 06:53 PM

The only thing that puts me off is it's quite rough compared the grass, that said I'm still going.

Danny McGee 14-04-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 229584)
Is there any possiblity of running it on the Grass, obviously weather permitting?

Im not attempting to cause an argument, just thinking with Talywain not far away would be good practice for most people?

Im with Simon on this one. I could do with all the practise on grass that is possible before the nats start. Again like sy i dont want a fuss kicking up about it, it was mearly a thought :)

also, is there going to be a 2wd open class?

Cheers

Danny

Jonesy 14-04-2009 07:35 PM

My personal choice would be grass but saying that if the club choose to run on the Astro then discussion over. It is not local for me either but if it means travelling 2 hours to win a meeting then so be it :woot::thumbsup:

matdodd 14-04-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 229677)
My personal choice would be grass but saying that if the club choose to run on the Astro then discussion over. It is not local for me either but if it means travelling 2 hours to win a meeting then so be it :woot::thumbsup:


:lol: Your a Legend Jonesy

warped 14-04-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny McGee (Post 229655)
Im with Simon on this one. I could do with all the practise on grass that is possible before the nats start. Again like sy i dont want a fuss kicking up about it, it was mearly a thought :)

also, is there going to be a 2wd open class?

Cheers

Danny


According to Yardees comments above, no 2wd class but having said that there are a few of us from the Hinckley club with 2wd's but no 4wd who'd be interested in racing if possible.

The question has been asked on the Coventry club forum. Although it may be a bit optimistic this late in the day.

If not I'll be adding weight to the car and run in with 4wd.

HarlowS 14-04-2009 09:20 PM

Yes it is a bit late, i believe that it would need to be the region that decided about extra classes due to it all being central booking now, and as the numbers are quite high already then i dont believe there will be a separate 2wd heat, but as stated you are more than welcome to make your car 1588g and race in the 4wd heats :)

RogerM 15-04-2009 10:51 AM

Might suprise us all and run it clockwise! Been to a couple of meetings with the track clockwise and all the fixed features become a totally different kettle of cod!!

DaveG28 15-04-2009 07:52 PM

Yahoo are giving rain every day between now and Sunday but sun on sunday:cry:

Does the astro waterlog at all?

panch 17-04-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 230133)
Yahoo are giving rain every day between now and Sunday but sun on sunday:cry:

Does the astro waterlog at all?


Have no fear.. just put the postcode into met office..

See link

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html

:)


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