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jo90 28-06-2013 01:53 PM

Urgent help with disposal of LiPo cells that are swollen
 
Hiya

Hope someone can shed light on this for me. I have 2 IP LiPos that are now both very swollen, one case cracked open. I had discharged them to as lower voltage as they will go, and now seem to have swollen up like mad.

Firstly I guess I need to how to neutralise the cells so they wont blow and secondly where i can actually take them to dispose of them ?

If anyone has the right info I really would be gratefull for your help

Cheers

john

twisty 28-06-2013 02:08 PM

Drop them in a bucket of very salty water,when they stop fizzing in a couple of days,you can pop them in the landfill bin.
HTH.
T.

jo90 28-06-2013 02:20 PM

without wanting to sound daft, how salty ?

Ta

i4n 28-06-2013 02:58 PM

http://thunderpowerrc.com/PDF/DISPOS...-BATTERIES.pdf

coleman758 28-06-2013 03:01 PM

Lipos in water.... I don't know if thats a good idea :woot:

Not sure if salt water would make any difference.

Id take them to your local recycling centre. They will take them off you.

Never over discharge your LIPOS that the main reason the swell.

bigred5765 28-06-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo90 (Post 785755)
without wanting to sound daft, how salty ?

Ta


1/2 cup of salt per gallon of water.

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 785768)
Lipos in water.... I don't know if thats a good idea :woot:

Not sure if salt water would make any difference.

Id take them to your local recycling centre. They will take them off you.

Never over discharge your LIPOS that the main reason the swell.

coleman that's the worst piece of advice I have ever seen you post
read the info in the link http://thunderpowerrc.com/PDF/DISPOS...-BATTERIES.pdf

Essexboyracer 28-06-2013 03:32 PM

The thunderpower link posted by i4n sound good. I'd recommend you follow those instructions.

Cheers,

-Will.

Neil Skull 28-06-2013 03:38 PM

You Must Discharge as per Thunderpower!!!!
I think 2 weeks is excessive though if they are low voltage already just leave for a night or 2 in a bucket of salt water!
Never take to landfill unless fully discharged as they could start a fire!!!!!

BazzerH 28-06-2013 04:14 PM

I hear you're best off stabbing them with a knife as well before the salty water.

Sounds crazy I know :woot:

Neil Skull 28-06-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BazzerH (Post 785800)
I hear you're best off stabbing them with a knife as well before the salty water.

Sounds crazy I know :woot:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mark christopher 28-06-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 785768)
Lipos in water.... I don't know if thats a good idea :woot:

Not sure if salt water would make any difference.

Id take them to your local recycling centre. They will take them off you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BazzerH (Post 785800)
I hear you're best off stabbing them with a knife as well before the salty water.

Sounds crazy I know :woot:

and that ladies and gentlemen is why lipos get a bad name.....

mattr 28-06-2013 05:43 PM

To be fair, our local recycling centre has a separate bin for "special" batteries. Laptop, mobile, etc etc. And that includes lipos

BazzerH 28-06-2013 06:23 PM

Anyone know how watertight our typical hard case packs are? And if the answer is very then how can the saline penetrate the actual cells to make them inert? Just wondering....

SlowOne 28-06-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattr (Post 785817)
To be fair, our local recycling centre has a separate bin for "special" batteries. Laptop, mobile, etc etc. And that includes lipos

You can take them there AFTER you have followed the Thunder Power instructions. Those types of batteries have a low energy density compared to what we use. You won't find any of those batteries with ratings above 4000mAh (best laptop ones) and most are in the range of 800 to 2500 mAh. All are rated around 1C for charge and discharge.

Please follow the Thunder Power instructions, including leaving them in the water for two weeks. Two days is not enough, and just because they've stopped fizzing does not mean they are properly neutralised.

It doesn't matter what people think they should do if they don't understand the science. Thunder Power understand the science and they have distilled that into a simple set of instructions. HTH :)

mark christopher 28-06-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BazzerH (Post 785825)
Anyone know how watertight our typical hard case packs are? And if the answer is very then how can the saline penetrate the actual cells to make them inert? Just wondering....

the salt water, shorts them on a discharge through the terminals

BazzerH 28-06-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 785829)
it does not get into the cell, just shorts them on a discharge through the terminals

Nope

SlowOne 28-06-2013 06:37 PM

...which is why you use a saline solution - water is actually almost an insulator compared to saline solution that conducts electricity better! The appliance of science... :)

GRIFF55 28-06-2013 08:40 PM

What about life batteries? Anybody know the procedure for these please?

johnnygibbon 28-06-2013 09:25 PM

i always like twisting the wires together and throwing it like a grenade
sometimes its great , flames and smoke an all that
other times its a bit dissapointing and just swells up more so you have to throw rocks at it to make it pop
then its always good to dispose of it in a local fishing lodge or outdoor swimming pool

( still better advice than colemans offering i think)

vrooom 28-06-2013 09:32 PM

with weather as it is. I would stab the lipo and enjoy the warmth. I done it, it goes out like massive flame thrower.


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