i came back with an associated 44.2 and thought the quality was good, used it for a race or two and already had massive play on the front wheels/wishbones.
after a year i swapped it for a schumacher k1 aero and building that kit made me realise how poor the associated was. the schumacher as miles ahead in quality.
wouldnt touch associated again now... - have heard quite a few say it was down to them moving production to china though...
not used kyosho for 1/10th but have an mp5 and mp6 1/8th and they were very good quality - not tried running them for over 10 years though so not sure how they have held up
