Interesting regarding Bio fuel.

[chris68nufc]

Just read this.

*FUEL WARNING – new B30 bio diesel from Morrisons*

Please be aware that any drivers purchasing the new B30 bio diesel blend - currently available from Morrison's supermarkets alongside their conventional diesel pumps - could invalidate the manufacturer's warranty leaving unsuspecting users with a potentially hefty repair bill.

The new blend of diesel, containing 30% bio-diesel with the remainder being made up from conventional fossil diesel, currently does not have a recognised British Standard designation such as EN or ISO and, without this standard, the fuel will invalidate almost all vehicle warranties.
A majority of manufacturers have said that using this fuel is not sanctioned for their vehicles and would cause the warranty to be invalidated.

Manufacturers which have said that B30 is definitely not approved include, Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Jaguar, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Renault, Seat, Skoda, Toyota, Volvo and Volkswagen. Vauxhall has approved it for some Vivaro and Movano LCVs but with conditions including replacement of the fuel filter at 24,000 miles and signing a 'conditions of use' document as well as providing VIN numbers of the vehicles intending to use the fuel. Peugeot will sanction use of the fuel but says that a special dispensation is required to ensure that fuel quality standards are respected. Citroën too, will sanction the fuel but also applies special restrictions. The main diesel fuel injection equipment suppliers say that they would not sanction the use of more than five per cent bio-diesel until such time as a BSI or ISO standard was agreed.
A statement from Morrisons says that there are warning notices on the B30 pumps on their forecourts which advise customers to check with the vehicle manufacturer that the engine is compatible with the fuel before filling up. The pump handles are orange but are situated next to the black conventional diesel pump. For some drivers it could be easy to miss or ignore the notice and fill up with B30 believing that, since it is 'green', it would not cause any problems. While the engine may run on B30, should a subsequent failure occur and the manufacturer is one that has not specifically appr oved the use of the fuel, then the warranty almost certainly would be invalidated. The potential bill for a replacement engine could run to several thousand pounds.

Phil Maud, Petrol Director for Morrisons, said:"B30 is sold in pumps which are bright orange in colour to differentiate them clearly from standard diesel and unleaded and on each pump itself there is a clear message advising customers to check with their manufacturer before filling up. One of the largest manufacturers of diesel engines in the world - Peugeot Citroen - has already approved B30 for use in its HDI engines up to nine years old and conversations are ongoing with other manufacturers regarding similar approval."

To avoid a potentially high repair cost the general advice is, that unless drivers specifically know that the manufacturer has approved the fuel and that your business meets all of the conditions then they should use the black conventional diesel pump only.

[Colinevan]

Load of cack really, the creator of that article is just using scare tactics..

Any car, that uses any percentage of bio diesel, is still recommended to change the fuel filter much sooner than what is recommended in there service schedule. For those that dont know, bio actually cleans out the gunk and general crap thats founds in tanks , fuel lines etc etc. The fuel filter, quickly gets blocked as thats where all this cack ends up. Iv ran cars on 100% bio. No probs what soever and done lots of miles with it. Iv evern tried running on std vegetable oil, not diluted , not filtered , not htinned out with diesel nothing. Perfetct running and was in a turbo car, which was well up on the miles.

The funny thing is, if you are intending to use 100% bio, (i wouldnt in this weather at the mo), once you have cleaned out the fuel lines and tank, by ruuning it, with bio, once you have replaced the filter. It should in theory not warrant replacement as there should hopefully be a clean tank and clean fuel lines.

Diesel is the dirty fuel, bio is the cleaner option.

Col.

[Col]

When I worked at a BMW dealer, we got loads of cars with wrong fuel (petrol in diesel tanks, etc) and all were tested. Some were even tested at regular service intervals. Anything other than std derv fuel (for diesel cars) and any warranty was instantly voided. I'm sure that other manufacturers are the same (probably...)

[Colinevan]

Yep, any chance for a get out clause.... lol

[Albertini]

Originally Posted by chris68nufc

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A majority of manufacturers have said that using this fuel is not sanctioned for their vehicles and would cause the warranty to be invalidated.

Honda UK issued a bulletin to its Dealer network recently to this effect. Obviously the invalidation would only be applicable to items affected by the fuel.
I can't remember the specifics (I don't bring work home) but it did mention the fuel from certain supermarket chains was the culprit.

[Medders]

We have been told at work not to put the biodiesel into any of the company cars. Arse covering again probably. Did laugh the other week when some cretin put petrol into his diesel company car and had to pay the repair bill himself .