Paypal gift

[Col]

So you're selling an item in the for sale section. You don't want much for it, infact the price is very reasonable.
But then you go and ruin it by putting "paypal gift or buyer pays the fees"
I don't know you, so I'm not going to "give" you any money! Anyone who does is a fool, in my opinion. So that option is out.
Buyer pays the fees? Why the hell should I pay extra because you're too tight to pay for the service (paypal...) that you are using to get your money quickly? That option is out as well.

Looks like I'm buying new from one of the many superb RC shops we have.

Discuss...

[bigred5765]

your wrong its quiet simple really , you say i dont wana pay via paypal gift so ill pay the fees and pay you via paypal goods

[Col]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

your wrong its quiet simple really , you say i dont wana pay via paypal gift so ill pay the fees and pay you via paypal goods

Why should the buyer pay the fees, though?
I always thought that eBay and Paypal were essentially the same company, and when you sell on there you not only pay to advertise but you pay to receive the money. Why should the seller (who is the one with free advertising and asking to use the paypal service for free) not pay a small charge (ie paypal goods) for the privilege?

[RudolfXC]

It's against eBay rules to charge for using PayPal so why should buyers on here pay extra?

[c0sie]

Originally Posted by Col

Looks like I'm buying new from one of the many superb RC shops we have.

Discuss...

Anyone who would then turn around and think "I aint paying the 3.5% fees, so I will go and buy brand new" which could potentially be 30%-50% of the second hand fee being asked originally...is a chump.

/thrad

[Big G]

The last couple of paypals I've done it's said no fee's anyway and I haven't put them through as gifts...

i've only done payments so not sure if the other end has extra fees or not, but no one has complained yet lol

[ian h]

Why can't people sell there stuff for a price including all fees? not too hard really is it?

[Col]

Originally Posted by ian h

Why can't people sell there stuff for a price including all fees? not too hard really is it?

That's basically what I'm getting at, Ian!

[Spoolio]

Originally Posted by Col

That's basically what I'm getting at, Ian!

+1 to that. If you (Mr Seller) are too lazy to work out an all inclusive price then I can't be arsed to do it for you and I shall take my custom elsewhere. So there . This is just symptomatic of the dumbing down in society that we see everyday and it's got to stop, do you hear me. Right, I'm off to write a letter to the Daily Mail.

[Mr Eccleston]

Suggest that all payments include Paypal fees by default, make it a rule.

If anyone wants to save a few pennies agree it via PM.

[Dudders]

As long as it's advertised that buying pays the 4% paypal fee's I see no issue. No one is forcing you to buy it

If the price doesnt state that then you assume the seller will pay fees.

I'm just completing two tricky business purchases and I've just been told that one of the vendors has told their solicitor I am picking up their tab!, dont think so!

[peetbee]

I don't understand the poll?!

I don't see the problem with asking the buyer to pay the fees, if you outlawed it sellers would just add it to the asking price anyway.

If you look at this from the other point of view, i'm not asking you to pay for me to recieve the money sooner, i'm asking you to pay the fees so that you can get the item sooner, ie without having to wait for your cheque to arrive and subsequently clear.

[Col]

Originally Posted by peetbee

I don't understand the poll?!

I don't see the problem with asking the buyer to pay the fees, if you outlawed it sellers would just add it to the asking price anyway.

3 hours later I'm not sure I understand to poll either.

That's exactly what I (not in my capacity as trade mod either) would like to happen. Then it's plain and simple what price is to be paid for the product from the outset and everybody is covered and paypal get payed for the service they provide.
I cannot understand why paypal would even put the gift option there at all.

[peetbee]

Now if you're talking about paypal gift then that's different.
i never buy something via gift as you have no protection & I think that should be discouraged. Instead I work out what the fees are and I pay them.
if the asking price + fees is more than I want to pay then I don't buy it, it's simple and I don't understand what the fuss is.

[bodgit]

I do ask for payment by gift but only for the £5 screwkits. I then donate the fee,s paypal would have taken, rounded off to 4% to oople but if anyone does not want to pay by gift thats fine.
I also think due to the number of people who use oople solely to sell their items, and theres a lot of them, then maybe a 10-20 pence fee could be applied to every sale.
This would bring in a tidy amount of cash. Half of this could go to site costs and the oople race. The other half could be donated to a selected charity every few months or so.

[MikePimlott]

The paypal 4% fee, is what paypal charge the seller for receiving money. Not the buyer for sending it.
I thought in business it was illegal to charge someone extra for a electronic payment.

The price of a sellers item should include a little extra to cover the fee when advertised.

If they are demanding gift the item is probably not as advertised and the buyer has not got a leg to stand on with paypal protection.

[peetbee]

Originally Posted by MikePimlott

I thought in business it was illegal to charge someone extra for a electronic payment.

What about all the companies who charge a fee if you are paying by credit card but not if paying by debit card?
Similar principle here - pay by cheque/postal order/bank transfer then no 'surcharge' pay by paypal then 4% surcharge.

I don't think a 10-20p fee per item would be manageable by oOple and how would it be paid? If by paypal then they'd still take their fees out of that!
Any changes have to be simple and easily monitored by moderators

But if people want to advertise something as £50 plus paypal fees then it's down to the purchaser to decide whether they want to pay £52.10 by paypal for the item or not, rather than force the seller to just say they want £52.10 for it regardless of payment method.