Losi or Associated AGAIN !!

stefke · #1 03-10-2006

I know it must be the 135.368.123th time this question was asked, but since my B4 is a bit worn out after 2,5 seasons of racing, I'm looking for a replacement and am boubting between a new B4 and an XXX CR.

I started racing Losi XX and XX CR cars and loved the forgiving way the Losis handled, especially on rough tracks. But as my driving skills improved, I started to lack front end grip (or steering) with the XX. So after I tested someones Associated at the local track, I switched to a B2 and never looked back. After the B2, I raced a B3 and a B4 and liked them all.

But now I got to drive someones XXX CR and I must say I was amazed how good it handled. I lapped a few tenths a second faster per lap as with my B4 !! It seemed to have the classic Losi behaviour (forgiving, lots of rear grip) but has added the amount of aggressive steering mostly typical of associated 2WD's.

My question then : is this typical of the XXX CR or did the setup of the CR I tested just hit the sweet spot ? Do any of you guys made the transition from a B4 to a CR (or tested them both) and what were your impressions ?

bigred5765 · #2 03-10-2006

we've run b4 for the last 3 years but have moved to xxxcr enough said
steering is fine now

ashleyb4 · #3 03-10-2006

The B4 is a great car and is unbeatable. I dont think there will be another car that is so succesful as the B4 any time soon.

Go B4 Its a truely great car and really easy to set up.

ryan · #4 03-10-2006

i was asking my self the same question a few months ago and i found only one awnser THE B4. do you think theres a reason while losi named there car the CR-AP. lol the b4 is the best car ever made.

ryan

Slimboyfat · #5 03-10-2006

I am making the transition from B4 to XXX-CR at the moment.

The B4 is and awesome car but only time will tell whether the CR is as good or any better.

I will try and report back after a few meetings and give an honest impartial view as to what the score is in comparison.

bigred5765 · #6 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

i was asking my self the same question a few months ago and i found only one answer THE B4. do you think theres a reason while losi named there car the CR-AP. lol the b4 is the best car ever made.

Ryan

associated use to be good B4 losi xxxcr came out lol

i know you all asked for help and advice but you cant go of what your told all the time, and if you ask around you;ll find that one car suits some the other car suits others best of try for your self is the only way

PaulRotheram · #7 03-10-2006

I've ran a CR prototype all season with fairly good results.. E finaled a national with it, kept my F2 with it and Tq'd and won a regional for the first time. My all time best results so far

The car is VERY good it has to be said, but it's down to what you prefer.
You can set the car up as much as you want, or as little as you want. I made a nice 'general' setup i used for the start of each meeting and tweaked a little to dial the car to the conditions. The car is very good over the bumps, a great flyer and the rear end stays planted all the time.

The downfall of the CR I found was when the conditions get wet, the little lack of steering the car natually gives shows an awful lot with the front end pushing though the corners, mostly on the astro. This can be resolved with set up changes, but the B4 is definatly the dominant car when the rain comes.

Ive just got ahold of a B4 again after having the opportunity to have some help from other racers (of who i very much appreciate), and with the help I received the car was very good, my old b4 seemed to be very random, especially the rear end. But with the set up on now, the car seems to be dialed, it has the extra steering the losi slightly lacked which i could use to my advantage from the extra experience from the past seasons.

Sunday was a VERY random day, the track started off damp, dried up then we had torrential rain. And ive got to say the car was great in all the conditions - even when the bad downpour started the car still gripped.. on yellows ! but after the rain stopped and the track was just damp there was a distinct lack of rear end grip.. nothing else i could of expected after that much rain!

Both cars are very competitive, and you can do well with either.. the Losi is very forgiving and will get you a good time over 5 minutes, wheras the B4 will give you the fastest times over one lap and requires a good driver to keep them laptimes over 5 minutes.

If you have any questions i will try answer them as i like to think i've experienced alot from both cars.

Lee Martin · #8 04-10-2006

[quote=bigred5765;12486]associated use to be good B4 losi xxxcr came out lol

OMG

have a light word in this mans ear please.............

i think hes lost his pills again...........

bigred5765 · #9 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

The B4 is a great car and is unbeatable. I dont think there will be another car that is so succesful as the B4 any time soon.

Go B4 Its a truely great car and really easy to set up.

so how long did you test the xxxcr for then ash

ashleyb4 · #10 03-10-2006

Look at the results which car won the world championship and the national championship.

And when i scrutenered oswestrynational the B4 seemed to be alot more popular than the losi's.

And i love my B4 and i find it really reall cool.

A:tongue:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765

so how long did you test the xxxcr for then ash

yin · #11 03-10-2006

I used to have a b4 and recently changed to the losi xxxcr.
I have noticed there is not a lot too choose between them.
At the last club meet managed .5 sec between my fastest lap
and average lap.
Plus still learning set up changes the car likes and dose'nt
so it cant be that bad

So try both and see what you think.

bigred5765 · #12 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley

Look at the results which car won the world championship and the national championship.

And when i scrutenered oswestrynational the B4 seemed to be alot more popular than the losi's.

And i love my B4 and i find it really reall cool.

A:tongue:

BUT ASH HOW THE HELL CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT.
you have never run a xxxcr, it won the euros first time out, and do you think that Neil or braders would go any slower if they ran a xxx cr, well i know they wouldn't,yes the b4 is a faster car but it isn't as forgiving as the losi so any mistakes and the losi has just gone past you, b4 bits you in the ass on virtually every mistake

ashleyb4 · #13 03-10-2006

B4's are a really succesful car and knowone should knock it.