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Hello!


Hopefully you can offer me some advice!


I have managed to get hold of an old Yokomo YZ-10 super dogfighter and am looking to have it reconditioned by myself as a bit of a project.

I have several motors sitting at home, these are the brushed type. They are of various turns and spin ratings.

They haven’t been used for about 10+ years from what I gather. Would it be worth trying to get these up and running again? Is it likely that after all this time of the motors sitting around, that they would have lost any of their performance i.e. the magnets would not be working as well as they should?

How much would it cost and what would I need to get these motors in good condition? I assume I would need new brushes and clips (dog clips) to connect the motors to the ESC (which I still need to buy). How do you ‘break in’ new brushes?

On top of this, what oils and greases would I need for the rest of the car, for the shocks, gearings, bearings etc..? would the below product be suitable? Any recomendations here?


http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Ansmann...r201000037.htm
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http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Ansmann...r201000038.htm

I know I would also need some new batteries, the old ones I am sure are pretty knackered by now, any advice on types here?


Do you have any other advice for me for re-conditioning an old car?


And to end with - I am in desperate need of a manual - anyone able to help me?


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Hello!


Hopefully you can offer me some advice!


I have managed to get hold of an old Yokomo YZ-10 super dogfighter and am looking to have it reconditioned by myself as a bit of a project.

I have several motors sitting at home, these are the brushed type. They are of various turns and spin ratings.

They haven’t been used for about 10+ years from what I gather. Would it be worth trying to get these up and running again? Is it likely that after all this time of the motors sitting around, that they would have lost any of their performance i.e. the magnets would not be working as well as they should?

How much would it cost and what would I need to get these motors in good condition? I assume I would need new brushes and clips (dog clips) to connect the motors to the ESC (which I still need to buy). How do you ‘break in’ new brushes?

On top of this, what oils and greases would I need for the rest of the car, for the shocks, gearings, bearings etc..? would the below product be suitable? Any recomendations here?


http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Ansmann...r201000037.htm
&
http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Ansmann...r201000038.htm

I know I would also need some new batteries, the old ones I am sure are pretty knackered by now, any advice on types here?


Do you have any other advice for me for re-conditioning an old car?


And to end with - I am in desperate need of a manual - anyone able to help me?


Hi mate,try this link

http://www.retromodelisme.com/manuel...10-yokomo.html
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mate, that is awesome, thanks for the very quick response!

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no probs mateget some pictures up,like to see an old yz10
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will do! give me a couple of days!

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Welcome to the site! As it happens i have just finished rebuilding my Dog Fighter to use as a vintage racer. I am confident this car has everything it needs to be a very competitve racer and you'll find yours to be much the same.
Im not sure what condition your motors are in but Im sure they'l work just fine. It would be a little easier if we had some pictures up here before any advice on this car can be given. I'll keep an eye out for an update. Cheers-Jason.
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A great site for yokomo tech is http://www.rc10talk.com/index.php Just navigate to the yokomo section and you will find loads of great posts.

As for batteries, I am using Trakpower 3200 lipos (in my works 91), they fit really well and dont require much modification to the battery posts but you will need a lipo charger.

Here is good link for all things motor's http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=126994
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thanks for the advice guys, have a lot of reading to do at the mo, quick question..

i bought some original decals for the YZ10 Super Dogfighter off ebay, cost more than i wanted but thats another story...

...what is this 'Pavidis' name i keep hearing mentioned on ebay and other forums?

Thanks, working on the pics now...
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Mark "Pavidis" was an yokomo driver back in 95 and he won the WC so there is an Pavidis version of the YZ10

mvh Isobarik
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Pictures as promised! (LOTS OF : ) )

Motors!

















Car!





























Like i said - this all still needs a lot of work!

The motors all need reconditioning, do you think it will be worth paying to have it done? Some, from what i understand, were quite expensive when first purchased, would they be worth much now? I am tempted to sell some/all and upgrade to a brushless system - though might try and re-furb the whole car with vintage parts.. what you guys think? Hopefully i have taken enough pics to get a good look at them

I want to buy some shock mounts as the old ones look a bit worn around the edges, think its spent too much time upside down. The shock mounts look very very frail, these aren't too dificult to find..

no electrics on the car yet either, all need to be bought too. will leave this to the end as, like i mentioned earlier, i might get the buggy fitted out with brushless sytem

will take pictures of the body too when i get it back, its been sent off to kamtec who are hopefully going to make me a replica so i can have a fresh new one to show it off! What colour scheme to go for hmm....

: )



so much work to do... so little time...!

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some last pics i have



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Shocks towers are still available from fibre lyte and yokomo oem are listed on the CML website as being available along with other parts. Stuff like the servo saver parts/ball joints/hubs and carriers and diff parts are still easy(ish)to get hold of. Its also worth a mention that certain YR4 (touring car) parts are interchangable. Get the YR4 manuals form yokomo usa for part numbers etc

If you do a search of ebay for yokomo parts i think a gear adapter is being currently listed, you would then be able to run different spurs.

I would sell some of the motors and get some modern electrics. Stuff is a lot more affordable these days than i used to remember back in the day and there is a lot of quality used electrics around.

Of course if you want to keep it retro then........

Let us know about the shell re-pro by kamtec, I am sure there would be a few interested parties
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