Turkish GP..dont read if you haven't seen it. :)

telboy · #1 31-05-2010

We've been discussing the GP here and the topic of who was at fault on sunday.

Personally I think it was Vettels fault, I think that he thought he was past Webber and pulled across...causing the accident.

How Horner thought that Webber didn't leave Vettel enough room I don't know. He was pretty much through so clearly had enough room, he just didn't use his brain when moving across.

Horner deffo has a thing for Vettel, and so obviously is on his side.

Excellent race though, not seen 4 car that close for the whole race for years. This year is deffinately livening up!!

Rich D · #2 31-05-2010

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Originally Posted by telboy

We've been discussing the GP here and the topic of who was at fault on sunday.

Personally I think it was Vettels fault, I think that he thought he was past Webber and pulled across...causing the accident.

How Horner thought that Webber didn't leave Vettel enough room I don't know. He was pretty much through so clearly had enough room, he just didn't use his brain when moving across.

Horner deffo has a thing for Vettel, and so obviously is on his side.

Excellent race though, not seen 4 car that close for the whole race for years. This year is deffinately livening up!!

Agree with you Tel. Webber held his line and left plenty of room. Short of rolling out a red carpet for Vettel to overtake he couldnt of done much more to avoid it ! When trying to get on the line for the upcoming bend its obvious from the video that Vettel drove hard into the side of Webber !

Webber deserved to be leading - had no moral obligation to move over for his team mate. Served him right IMO

I thought it was more amusing watching Button trying to overtake Hamilton after they were both told to slow to save fuel ! Its pretty obvious that theres no love lost between those two i reckon !

Body Paint · #3 31-05-2010

I don't actually agree that the blame should lay wholey on Vettel, he pulled a clean move and there is no way Webber was going to block him. Any team mate worth a toss would have moved across and had a stab back on the next corner, typical Webber egotystical maniac if you ask me. You wanna see how it should have been done watch Lewis and Jenson a few laps later.

dom-dogger · #4 31-05-2010

if you watch the replay you can see webber moving across to let vettel through, twas vettels fault all the way.

MatJohnson · #5 31-05-2010

Don't like webber, he's a danger on track, but, you can see who the team clearly see as their number one.

telboy · #6 31-05-2010

Vettel just thought he'd got the room to move across.

He 'assumed'......and we all know what assume does!?

The Mclaren duel was ace, and I did think at one point (turn 1) that hamilton was going to drive into the side of Button and hand the victory back to Webber!

...and we all now know what 'Fuel is critical' means in the Mclaren camp don't we!

bigoggy · #7 31-05-2010

100% vettel's fault

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson · #8 31-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Body Paint

I don't actually agree that the blame should lay wholey on Vettel, he pulled a clean move and there is no way Webber was going to block him. Any team mate worth a toss would have moved across and had a stab back on the next corner, typical Webber egotystical maniac if you ask me. You wanna see how it should have been done watch Lewis and Jenson a few laps later.

Team mate or not, they are still racing for their OWN championship and i believe going into this race they were level on points (i maybe wrong) but i don't think anybody would just slide over and say "here you go" and webber didn't have a go at blocking because he has respect for his team mate.

Personally i think it was Vettel's fault, if anybody was to blame for not giving a toss about there team mate its vettel. He could have waited for a better place to pass webber. He just didn't seem to have any respect for webber. You don't see webber slamming into the side of vettel.

Even martin Brundle said he had more than enough room, he had position for the corner, why risk the move.

plod · #9 31-05-2010

I see it as six and half a dozen

Yes vettel moved over, but to me, vettel got by with webber going slower, had his nose in front, and maybe I saw something else, but I thought webber tried to squeeze him onto the grass, and vettel movrd it over, to get webber to move over to prevent this, and webber was having none of it, and took vettel out

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson · #10 31-05-2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4wM-...eature=related

48 seconds in...vettel swerve's into webber plain as day.

sime46 · #11 31-05-2010

Vettel seems desperate to beat Webber right now. I'm not a fan of Webbers driving generally but, as previously stated all that was left to do was put out the red carpet and buntin. Anyway, what the hell was up with Lewis on the podium? He won but sush a sour face. Was it cos Button gave him a late scare? Surely he'd rellish the chance of some wheel to wheel with Jens? Highlight of a great race I thought. As Tel said, season is looking very good.

Chequered Flag Racing · #12 31-05-2010

Vettel half car'ed Webber so was in front

but he pulled right on Webber hoping it was clear to do so, blind spot? and caused the crash

Webber should maybe have yielded as he had been cleanly passed and waited a corner or two or tried later in the race

wonder if the FIA will look into it?

Nige · #13 31-05-2010

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Webber should maybe have yielded as he had been cleanly passed and waited a corner or two or tried later in the race [QUOTE]

If Webber had yielded it would have shown a weakness, by not moving it shows strength in character and next time Vettel will think twice making a pass. I still think Vettel is the better driver, but good on Webber for not letting Vettel walk all over him.