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I just wish then that Tamiya would do more re-releases that will take square LIPO rather than those silly round 6s jobs from yester-year!
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On a serious note, the focus of the BRCA needs to be more on how people use their LIPOs rather than dictating which ones people can/can't use at regionals/nationals. Personally, Im a club racer and haven't bothered with reigionals for some time. If I did choose to go to a regional I would hate to be turned away because my Turnigy/Zippy lipos (which are excellent BTW) weren't on some list. I did scruntineering for 1 round a few years ago and some kid turned up with an EZrun sensorless motor - not on the BRCA list but I just turned a blind eye and let him race. I've only witnessed 2 LIPO fires in the past, in both cases the LIPOs were on the BRCA list but they still went up because of mis-use and mechanical failure. My club has strict rules on using LIPOs: 1) Max 1C charge 2) No discharging using the charger 3) Must be charged in safe container (sack, aluminium box etc) 4) Hard-cased varieties only Although it is sometimes hard to do this, but we do try and enforce these rules every week. There may be something similar in the BRCA rules but I would much rather "the list" would be relaced with something to enforce the above rules.
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Oh Mark you really are a vindictive soul aren't you? Is there any need to insult people in such a way? I think you'll find the only person here showing a lack of intelligence is you, no one should throw blanket statements around like that, it's not cool man...
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As Big T asked a few posts back ......
.... what was the outcome of the track related proposals? Now that is out of the way I have to say I am in favour of the BRCA EB lists being used at regionals (also control tires too but that is a discussion for a different thread) and equally happy to see clubs take the sensible approach of just following the general regs for club meetings. The point of regionals, as was explained to me by Mr BRCA EB himself many years ago, to provide the step between "club" & "national" racing and to provide a means of grading drivers should they wish to enter national events (including end of season finals). Part of that step is levelling the playing field across all regions by means of having a set of performance defining components that the are agreed across all regions. Logically that should be the same as that used for nationals so to minimise the transition, both in terms of cost and performance, when the regional driver takes the next step to nationals. So what happens when 'Mr A.N.Other' decides he wants to do the single regional being held by his home club to get a taste of the next step on the racing ladder? Hopefully there will be some of his mates will be able to lend him some kit for the day, that is what has normally happened in my experience ... sometimes I've lent kit to strangers to let them race in that situation as have many others I know. If not then there are still options such as a 'guest' heat. no big deal. Lets move on from the discussions about EB lists and look at the proposals that might really have influenced racing, those relating to the tracks. |
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but on the contrary, I full understand the procedures and rules and know whats needed to be done to change things, others including you don't seem to be able to grasp whats needed and why!
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Read my post - I never said you mentioned the BRCA was elitist I was quoting from other comments as stated in this thread and other forums
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Just look at the 10th Off Road proposal for wheel sizes - a totally unworkable proposal that, if voted in, would have been impossible to police. IF the intent is right then by discussion it would have been made workable. Or do you prefer that each proposal is made workable by the very same small number of people you seem to dislike before it is put on line? By the way, 100% of the country have the use of a postal vote so they can vote at elections at their convenience. Still we have turnouts of about 65% because people can't even be arsed to make a cross on a piece of paper and post it. What makes you think on line voting would be any better than turning up in person? Quote:
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So the brca is a democracy but when people have an opinion, shut the thread down or call them criminals. Ha what a joke. Please do shut it so don't hear the boring replys anymore.
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The BRCA is a democracy. It's just that most seem not to have realised.
oOple, however, isn't.
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I've spent so long being around committees and I've seen the way they DON'T work for the last 30 years. People do get stuck in their ways, they make decisions based on too little information and too little input from others, but the attendance of the last 3 AGM's has to be a sign that more input, not less is needed. Yes the details may need tweaking, but anything has to be better than what we have with an impotent committee who's hands are tied and cannot make the changes they want to because 10 years ago someone voted that you had to be there in person to change a bloody rule. Jim Spencer has been straight with us, its up to us to change the landscape of our sport, up to us to get changed the things that we want changing, and peoples negativity towards getting a greater input baffles me. Mark Christopher I can understand, clearly he has a huge amount of hatred towards me, strange considering I've never met the guy, but hell I rub people up the wrong way so whatever, but all I'm trying to do is give people a voice, is that really such a bad thing?
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As for regionals, some regions struggle with numbers to get decent heats and ability mixing so by excluding people from the regional heats just makes things worse, I much prefer to include people because in the end, if they are going to be racing as billy no mates, they won't come, that's more drivers lost and revenue for the club.
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It's not rocket science. All I did when I started was read the guide i've linked below, i've never lost a cell and never had a LiPo fire: http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-lipo-batteries.html To try and dictate to people what brand of batteries they can use seems laughable to me, particularly because I started on 1/8th brushless which, if i've understood correctly, has no restriction despite the fact they run on 2 x 2S or a 4S pack so in theory have twice the level of danger as a 1/10th car running 2S. Some posters have responded by telling people to basically just quit complaining and buy the approved batteries off the EB list, but why should I when I can get perfectly good, safe, ROAR-legal ones for half the price (or less!!)? Why are the equivalent approved ones so expensive? This is just Ripoff Britain all over again, no different to parallel import motorcycles in the '90s or any other number of examples. It's a short-sighted approach which discourages people from taking up the hobby in the first place. For me the biggest problem here is not the extra £20 for an "approved" LiPo pack but the behaviour of "yes men" like Mark Christopher and Neil Skull, trying to bully and intimidate people into towing the party line and signing up to what amounts to a price cartel. Looking back through history, all corrupt systems of government have relied on people like these two to basically go out into the general population and put the boot in to anyone who disagrees with the party line. Hitler had the Gestapo, Stalin had the KGB, and we get Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. There is a principle here. Who are they to threaten me with grassing me up to "the good people at customs"? As a person whose ancestors fought against Hitler for my freedom (which is now being taken away by the government) I actually find this offensive on a personal level, it's no different to the Swedish government passing a law which makes it illegal to criticise their mass immigration policy (and yes, they've actually done this). If they want to behave in this way then might I suggest that they get in touch with Kim Jong Un? He's setting up the NKRCA and this pair of jobsworths could be just the fellows! If the moderators on here take the view that i've been personally offensive then fine, delete my post. That will only serve to highlight the fact that some of us know the difference between the reality of freedom and the illusion of freedom. I have nothing personal against the people whose names i've mentioned, I just think they're very misguided in the way they've tried to argue their point. |
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Let's get this straight, I had not said anything to you till you attacked my dislexia and made it personal...... If you want to gallop in in you shiney armour in your white horse and save all the poor hk souls, then do it via the correct procedure pointed out by me and Jim, look forward to seeing your proposal.....
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Let's all be honest here the biggest problem is not the £20 it's hobbyking not submitting their cells , if they did that then this would be a non issue
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