help in choosing first 4wd buggy

[ANGEL.ONE]

Durga, Durga, Durga!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durga

[peetbee]

The Baldre is the same car with a better fitting shell, even if it doesn't look as fancy as the Durga's. The Baldre would be my choice of shell out of the two.

[ANGEL.ONE]

[ANGEL.ONE]

I don't know anything about kyosho or zx5 but good reputation + £169 (www.modelsport.co.uk) for a ready to run less batteries and charger must seem very reasonable to anyone new to 4x4 offroad RC!
Have you considered the yokomo bmax4 with or without the champions pack?! sorry, this is a Tamiya area?

[sirsomrak]

hey angel.one,i read in of the threads tat durga's rear diffs keep loosening after few runs?y is tat happening? zx5 seem to be problem free!! changing my mind abit.u encountered any prob with durga?

[ANGEL.ONE]

don't have one, want one! general concensus is that only the rear diff hub should be replaced, and once done makes DB01 as bulletproof as expected from a Tamiya. for me, the zx5 wouldn't enter the equation as i like to choose my own radio n electrics kit and bodyshell finish. it does have slipper clutch as standard though. expect a PM imminently for cheapest place(s) i found for DB01/Durga.

[sirsomrak]

oic.thx.BTW,wat are u running on ur durga?i plan to use a 12 turn motor?will it be neccesary to change the rear diff hub and add on slipper clutch?

[ANGEL.ONE]

i'd reckon on fitting a slipper clutch whatever, and 501x diff hubs on any motor better than 4000kV.

[sirsomrak]

sorry to be such a noob .wat is a 4000kv motor?brushless ones?

[dimblum]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

sorry to be such a noob .wat is a 4000Kv motor?brushless ones?

The 'Kv' measurements confused me too at first. It does refer to a brushless motor spec.. Specifically the 'Kv' number is referring to -RPM per volt-, so a 4000Kv motor has a maximum unloaded RPM of 29600 when used with a 7.4v battery (4000 * 7.4 = 29600).

Some companies perfer to use the 'Kv' spec instead of 'Turns' which is what most of us are used to.. If you wanted to compare a 4000kv brushless motor to a Novak brushless motor, then you will find that it is roughly the same as a 10.5 turn.

Hope this helps.

Dan

[Eddie168]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

ya durga is durable.Ive seen many durga crashes on youtube and they just keep moving without any breakages.but i wonder whether the belt driven transmission is durable and its maintanence based on you guy's experience.another thing ,like kyosho whre its front part is prone to damages, what part of durga is its weakpoint?

You must've seen my video then LOL

[sirsomrak]

Originally Posted by dimblum

The 'Kv' measurements confused me too at first. It does refer to a brushless motor spec.. Specifically the 'Kv' number is referring to -RPM per volt-, so a 4000Kv motor has a maximum unloaded RPM of 29600 when used with a 7.4v battery (4000 * 7.4 = 29600).

Some companies perfer to use the 'Kv' spec instead of 'Turns' which is what most of us are used to.. If you wanted to compare a 4000kv brushless motor to a Novak brushless motor, then you will find that it is roughly the same as a 10.5 turn.

Hope this helps.

Dan

thx dimblum.

[sirsomrak]

hey dimblum, which would you recommend to noob like me ,kyosho zx5 rtr or durga?
i will bash it around car parks and mostly onroad.which one is more durable and require less maintenance?

[Blackbeard]

Originally Posted by ANGEL.ONE

i'd reckon on fitting a slipper clutch whatever, and 501x diff hubs on any motor better than 4000kV.

I've run a 6000kv brushless with the stock rear diff and it's been fine so far. I have rebuilt the diff a few times to keep it running smoothly, though. Fixing the diff plate with a good glue seems to have helped. That said, I'll likely get the 501 diff halves for spares.

In terms of other hop ups, I've added the slipper, CVDs and the 3Racing shocks (and Losi wheels, just because they were easier to source). I'm not the greatest driver so I can certainly vouch for the Durga's ability to handle a crash

[ANGEL.ONE]

encouraging, i think the DB01 is a standout Tamiya piece, and the Durga bodyshell makes it a masterpiece.

[sirsomrak]

wow! who jumps better? i mean whose jumping technique is easier to master.

[qatmix]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

wat do u mean by snaps??its breaks apart?i thought the zx5 is one of the toughest buggy around.

the front part of the chassis snaps off (holding the front gearbox).

I'd get the Durga, its a great car, excellent for jumps and it also looks nice.

[sirsomrak]

does it come with metal outdrives?

[Blackbeard]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

does it come with metal outdrives?

The outdrives are metal; it's the kit diff halves that are plastic.

[sirsomrak]

thx blackbeard.till now ,decision still not clear.my budget is around rm1500 = US$390.either RTR or kit.tis is tough man.