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300 miles round trip for me and the Agm was very good lots of info on hand
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"For me the biggest problem here is not the extra £20 for an "approved" LiPo pack but the behaviour of "yes men" like Mark Christopher and Neil Skull, trying to bully and intimidate people into towing the party line and signing up to what amounts to a price cartel. Looking back through history, all corrupt systems of government have relied on people like these two to basically go out into the general population and put the boot in to anyone who disagrees with the party line. Hitler had the Gestapo, Stalin had the KGB, and we get Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee."
I have to laugh at this, I don't know whats more offensive being called a yes man, likened to communism or likened to Mark Christopher The reason I have an opinion on this is i do follow the rules, We are in the business of selling Lipos, we pay import duty and all the other cost's for importing dangerous goods into the UK. When people get goods smuggled into the country and don't pay what they should by law it does annoy me. Its not fair and it affects my business. The BRCA advocate the correct and Legal selling of goods into the UK. For Insurance purposes alone the cost of the paper trail is big. You buy from HK you don't have the peace of mind and you are robbing this country of taxes due by law! Shame on you who live the life of criminals ! i also expect you buy cheap DVD from the Chinese man from the pub! and don't understand how that affects people like Blockbuster!!! all you are doing is taken money from UK People and giving to Charlie Chan!!!! |
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This thread is awesome, maybe it should be scripted into a film. God i'm crying with laughter at some of the posts. Keep it going guys, film 4 may be getting in contact pmsl
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+ 1 on that Rich - lets keep it alive!
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And for the record - HK do not smuggle their goods into the UK, if they did you would only be able to buy them through the window of a blacked out car in a back alley using the code word "dead nimh geeza"!!!!. I too have an opinion on this as I am sick of being ripped off. Why pay £80 + for a 120A esc when I can get a Turnigy one from HK, from their uk warehouse with all taxes paid, that is the same quality for £30. It is sad when UK businesses struggle, but the fact is that the market is are changing. Also also, when you refer to people who don't buy from you as criminals, or refer to far-east retailers as "Charlie Chan", it kinda puts people off buying from you.
I've probably just upset every uk retailer by saying this!
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And for the record Charlie Chan is the bloke who sells DVD at our pub! if you don't like being ripped off from paying taxes in this country, you need to stand for PM (that's prime Minister not private message) or bunk in with CC (Charlie Chan) the only taxes he pays is to the barman who lets him in every Friday night! |
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At least you're honest and say the list is there for your business purposes. Found a brca thing on Facebook the other day and this thread was being discussed on there. 100% seemed to back the list, so I'll just keep doing the series I do and not worry about what equipment I have for regs. More fun that way
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Ah ok - thats fair enough.
I do spend a lot of money in UK hobby shops but I do order some things from HK - mostly Tamiya/3racing stuff you can't get in the UK. Why stand for PM when you can have good old rant on here
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It's a very revealing thing to treat your fellow human being in this way and i'm afraid it does indeed make you a yes man, because you've shown you're willing to drop someone in it in order to be a small cog in a big (corrupt) machine. Plus the fact, if it makes you that angry and if you really have that much of a desire to go out and bring to justice someone who has "robbed this country of taxes" I can think of 600 scumbags in Westminster who between them have defrauded you and I of more money than a few blokes going racing on a Sunday ever will. You're legally entitled to go straight down there and make a citizen's arrest. TBH I can (up to a point) see what you're saying about not being able to compete with Hong Kong on price but I can't help thinking some of it is greed on the part of the UK importers, I mean how can what is effectively the same thing be 3 times the price? It's ridiculous. You're getting all offended now people are finding ways round it but before globalisation came along you and many others were happy to rip us off year in and year out! As others have said I spend a lot of money in UK model shops. Many of them are 1st class and run by nice people but the shops are as much victims as we are because there are items like motors, batteries and ESCs where, compared to buying Hobbyking stuff from the UK warehouse, the markup makes buying it just plain unrealistic. If the UK importers and retailers set retail prices at sensible levels there would be more people willing to try the sport in the 1st place, grids would be full at the tracks on Sundays and the industry would make more money. Last edited by HOTSHOT III; 04-11-2014 at 10:51 PM. |
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What you do see now though is that the electronics you are now buying is SO GOOD that even the cheap stuff is sufficient for 95% of RC owners, whereas even 5 years ago you had no choice but to buy the good stuff to go racing. As for buying from Hong Kong, you take your risk, I bought most of my Tamiya stuff from there in the past, paid import duty on most of it to. The main reason being that the local distributor was and still is SHIT, prohibitively over expensive and never had stock, it got better when the exchange rate dropped and Tamiya put in place a Global Pricing Policy. And Neil Skull, most definitely the worst is being likened to Mark Christopher
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yhanks for the insight DCM. My last esc before buying the Turnigy one was a 5 year old Speed Passion so they were probably on-parr. Despite the quality not being the same, it is still really good however.
On the Tamiya front, I totally feel what you are saying - buying kits in the UK is fairly straightforward, but getting spares/hop-ups can be an expensive nightmare in the UK! I have been a real fan of the 3racing products but that inevitably means buying through HK.
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3Racing and other parts are readily available in the UK.
As for the electrics, unless you are pushing on or can feel differences in power delivery etc, then you can get away with the cheaper end, but just remember that they are either a) buying the product from someone like HobbyWing or b) due to Chinese lack of copyright, blatantly copying a product. What you don't get with Turnigy is the constant development/deefback which gives us such high class ESC's that we have now where even the ones aimed at the club racer are sufficient for most purposes that they are used in. Hope that maybe answers your questions about cost, quality and development. I.E. Turnigy limit cost by reducing quality and neglecting development but you still get a reasonable product in your hand.
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going way off topic here but half the moaning re the brca EB is price. Just did a quick price comparison on a schumacher mi5evo..
amain hobbies £312 schumacher uk price £380 try doing the same on some batteries....... rip off britain |
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Yeah but that's to do with exchange rate etc, they do pay three dollars for a gallon of petrol though.
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