Andy's £10 airbrush adventures.

[jonmiller]

ah, there it is.. nice job buddy

[U1timate PigDog]

There all just Awesome Andy, your really putting that cutter and your eye for design to good use, they all look great.

[neallewis]

Ace looking new shell for you. Really like that.

Could I ask, do you just lightly brush the inside of your shells with shoogoo? or do you do something else? I saw one of your shells as a meeting on friday, and noticed the thin coat inside to protect the paint. I was told it was shoogoo, and wondered if you did anything special or just brushed it on?
I'm doing a couple of new shells for myself, wanted to get them protected as best I could. thanks.

[Sk3tch]

Great work!

[andys]

Neal.

I paint with solvent based paints - so you don't need to do anything to the inside really.


That said I've tried plasticote clear spray - and on my own shells I tape up the parts that will rub on the chassis with a kind of white gaffa tape. If you search eBay I think it's called 'glass' tape or 'cricket bat' tape.

Super strong and stops paint getting scratched off

[whittaker52]

Some absolutely amazing paint jobs on here! I'd love to do something for my recently acquired schumacher cougar sv, I was thinking perhaps a tron inspired colour scheme. I love the look of the dotty fade outs of colours, are they easy to do? and whats involved?

Thanks,
Oliver

[andys]

Ran my 410 with the new shell today - and I tore a chunk off the side of it by crashing at the end if the straight and sliding the car on some concrete !!!

Bloody typical - spend all day painting it - and ruin it 1st time out.

Jon / Ian - you may be able to help here ?

I had a shell I painted for a Batley Member, with the paint backing the chrome coming away. The shell had being fine - but was run in very wet conditions, not sure this should have affected it though - any ideas why the paint backing the chrome had come away ?

I know chrome has little adhesion - and on the shells i've done recently i've not used it - I've just used regular silver instead as i'm fed up with problems with chrome

[coleman758]

If I'm using chrome I normally scuff the shell up roughly where it going to be.
Normally with a Brillo Pad, it does really help.

But saying that, the silver pearl looks just as good for pinstripes etc..

[U1timate PigDog]

Originally Posted by coleman758

If I'm using chrome I normally scuff the shell up roughly where it going to be.
Normally with a Brillo Pad, it does really help.

But saying that, the silver pearl looks just as good for pinstripes etc..

Wouldnt that give you a brushed aluminum look? or at least a dulled look

when I use chrome which is hardly ever I put it on last and give it the lightest backing possible (Ive not backed before) but its been a long time since I used it).

[coleman758]

It's not too bad, if you look very close it does have an almost brushed effect.
But you would have to be really looking for it,

Put it this way, it's never pealed off on me?

I always put the chrome down first, they cover with all the other colours?

[jonmiller]

deffinately do not scuff the shell when using chrome! it will as said, provide a brushed or dull look..

wherever possible, try to do the chrome last or or the color before last depending on design.

i have no problems with chrome and can rip masking off around it. window trims with chrome, once dry/backed n sealed can again, be removed easily with lifting or need for scoring around cut lines.

i think the number one problem people have with chrome is backing it too heavily.

i need to do a vid showing it in use when i get a moment.


as for your troubles andy, what was the chrome backed with(type of paint,colour etc), was the shell sealed with anything or have any type of tape etc applied? was the shell cut out before or after painting?

[andys]

Hi Jon.

Shell was painted using liquid mask
Shell was not cut out
I painted the chrome first - no problems with adhesion to shell
Other colours then painted, so chrome was under a couple of other colours - mainly black.
Final coat of paint to shell was all white.

Paints are Aerosol - Faskcolour (think that's how it's spelt)

No tape or backing (can't recall if I plasticoted it as this was before I started using plasticote)

The chrome hasn't come off - the paint 'backing' the chrome has come away.
It's like it hadn't adhered to the chrome - not had this happen before.

Shell was run is very,very wet conditions apparently.

[jonmiller]

Can't be Faskolor if they were aerosol (spray can)
Chrome is supposed to be backed with a waterbased colour(normally black)
Perhaps the chrome wasn't allowed enough time to flash off before being backed and so solvents trying to escape created a reaction or lack of adhesion between that and the backing.
maybe when the shell was cut out after being painted, there was a gap createdbetween the shell n paint or one of the layers and allowed moisture to get in.
maybe the shell was used too soon after being painted?

hard to say really dude, there are so many variables when painting that it could be. also, throwing the amount of abuse these things get into the mix adds even more and as much as you try to avoid things, once in a blue moon freak things happen..
as you say, you have never had it happen before so hopefully it was just one of those freak things.

[eyeayen]

Andy the shell you've done for yourself looks brilliant. Nice bold clear design.

Can't offer anything to this other chrome thing other than what Jon's said. I'd also side with him about the chrome being backed before the solvent had vented out of it, that will cause problems, then the slightest knock or moisture getting in and it all starts to come away. And also as already said back chrome with water based.

[andys]

Cheers guys.
Paints are aerosol - 'Custom Colours' not Faskcolour - my mistake.
Chrome is again an aerosol 'custom colour'

I don't have any water based paints - I assume with the chrome I use it's I'm to back it with paints of the same brand ?

Cheers

[MikePimlott]

The lines on your shells look perfect.

Keep up the good work Andy.

[andys]

Originally Posted by MikePimlott

The lines on your shells look perfect.

Keep up the good work Andy.

Cheers Mike

Nothing is ever perfect unfortunately !
As I design a lot on a Mac, I really miss the 'undo' feature when i'm airbrushing with real paint !

[andys]

Originally Posted by whittaker52

Some absolutely amazing paint jobs on here! I'd love to do something for my recently acquired schumacher cougar sv, I was thinking perhaps a tron inspired colour scheme. I love the look of the dotty fade outs of colours, are they easy to do? and whats involved?

Thanks,
Oliver

Hi

If you want Tron - drop eyeayen a line in here - he did a Tron shell recently

To answer your question - Tron style and or dotty fades are tricky !!

Check out Ian's (eyeayen) Tron shell - A LOT of work went into it.

If you want something different - drop me a PM

Andy

[whittaker52]

Brilliant, i'll drop him a line. Just out of interest, do you offer any window masks for schumacher cougars?

[andys]

I've not painted a Schumacher shell yet - I'm expecting a cat one soon, but I haven't done a cougar - so no, I haven't made any masks for one yet.

After my hols next week - I will update the window masks so people can see all the ones I've done