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Here is my final setup from York Regional:
front springs white (no compreision spring) oil 25wt losi piston kit with standard rebound valve pushrod above rocker pushrod lenth 33mm revised front arms - washers in front of wishbone no roll bar ride height 19-20 mm front wing kit with standard lines followed slight toe in with 1degree of -camber rear springs losi blue front oil 35 AE piston kit middle hole on rocker no roll bar large rear wing with half guerney toe in to middle of front wheel rear upright in upper hole ride height 21-22mm Standard anti-squat I was using worn schumacher yellow minispikes with the outer row cutoff rear and 1 and a half cut off outer front and 1 row cut off the inner front. Novak 5.5R brushless motor [72 spur, 14/15t pinion] Nosram Matrix Evo ESC Associated XP DS1015 servo EP4200 The track was very high grip on flat grass with some big features.
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It looks like you guys are running a lot thinner oil with the new shocks than used to be the case with the old style shocks? (and different rate springs, softer?) Am I right?
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having just re read ya post. im softer on oil due to the larger shocks generating a lot more pac so the car feels and is a lot more supple to drive but still lands off the larer jumps better than previously. as for springs i havent run a pred in years and have just stepped into the x11 with lewis and adam h for help with setting the car up. front wise im abouty the same as before and have personally taken out the compresion spring so that i can go softer on the rear spring hence being a rate down on what previous setups have shown
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Cheers Nathan. I'm going to try some experimenting this weekend with the ol' X10.
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Also the rear pistons in the 'new' shocks only have 1 hole, so thinner oil is used to get the same damping
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southport national setup 08
front springs blue (no compreision spring) 5 1/2 turn in older style oil 22.5wt losi piston kit with standard rebound valve pushrod above rocker pushrod lenth 33mm with shockball undone 1turn revised front arms with 1 washer behind wishbone cone washer replaced with 4 losi gold ballstud washers. 3 under outer ball with 1 above extra midde hole drilled for roll bar roll bar 1.2mm (standard) middle hole ride height 18 mm (driveshafts just below level) front wing kit with standard lines followed with shock cartridge white washer under rear mount slight toe out with 2 degrees of camber rear springs blue (no compresion spring) 5 1/2 turn in older style oil 27.5 losi piston kit lower hole on shock mount roll bar 1.2mm in stiff hole in lowered position (pic to follow) wheelbase lenthened 1mm ride height 22mm drive shafts just above level) 1.5mm rear block (reduces on power steering) large rear wing with no guerney toe in to middle of front wheel 2 degrees of camber rear uprite in upper hole shumacher yellow minispikes with outside and inside row cut off rear and 2 inner and outer cut off front 5.5 nosram 14mm sintered rotor 19/72 nosram istc speedo settings 2/1/1/1. notes 6.5 geared on a 19/20 tooth much easier to drive poss cut extra 1/2 a row off the outer front to get less snatch when grip was very high any extra info you need feel free to ask or pm
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euh, some more info on this? You lost me? Rear block? Or is this a feature that only exists on the X11 (I have an X10) thx!! |
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It is a inner rear hinge pin block that has been machined down. They are only on the X11 though.
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one of the advantages of the x11 over the x10 is that is has proper alloy hingepin holders. this obviously adds to the strenth as it now uses 3mm hingepins as well and means that we can adjust things like antisquat very easily on the car. admittedly the antisquat blocks are still in the prototype stages but as far as i know there will be a set of blocks released for the car once testing is completed.
hope that helps Nathan
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Well, i'm thinking about competing with my Pred (X10 with BB shocks) in a local competition. It will be indoors, carpet, but with some nice jumps and other obstacles.
I actually have a little movie about this race last year: (Youtube) GB in Brussels 2007 -- Of-road-heats I will certainly be a similar track. And a big chance there will be a minimum chassi-height-rule of 15mm. I only found the setup for Worksop Indoor from Mattym0310 and am wondering if this Worksop-track is one with jumps .. or in other words.. (question 1) will this setup be ok for me, as a good starting setup? also (2.) what about the BB-shocks on my X10? Any ideas on setup of these. I'm not looking for a ready-to-use setup, but more for a ready-to-start-with setup, maybe with some hints on what to expect and how to try to adapt the setup. thx!! |
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leave everything else as you would normally run it on astroturf, as for the shocks
front 25wt losi oil piston standard spring blue with rebound valve roll bar in the stiff position rear 30wt losi oil piston standard spring white no rebound valve. roll bar in the stiff position this is a good safe starting point although the team are working on this at the moment to improve it more. i will post a setup after this weekends worksop meeting
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I always forget what these springs have to be compared with. blue equals 5.5, wasn't it? And white = 6?
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blues are 5 1/2 turn, whites are the stiffest
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This is my setup at the moment and one that i have changed very little over the last few weeks... its been a great setup at Eden Park, Stotfold, Kidderminster, wet or dry.
The only mods i have done are to stand the servo up and finding some slightly longer shafts on the rear shocks (this can be achieved by undoing the joint slightly but with the risk of it stripping off). I've also dremelled a little away from the rear of the front upper wishbones to let the suspension droop more and taken a little bit off the rear hubs that catch the wishbones. Getting more droop front and rear has made a huge difference. Rear
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any chance on some pictures of the mods you made, Kevin?
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I've atached a picture of the chamfered front top arm that lets the suspension drop a little more. On the rear hub i've just realised that i only removed a little bit of material when i was running the hub low, there is no need to do anything to it in the high position.
The pictures above show the wing mounted forward, to be honest i'm not sure if others do this already but i found i had much more steering and it jumps better like this too. I think thats about it... Let me know if there is anything in particular you wanted to see.
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anybody a set up for carpet indoor for a 08
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NERCR - Slippy floor and carpet, one large jump plus some rippled mats
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I think i've remembered everything there
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