Kyosho RB6 thread - Page 32

mrroy76 · #**621** 01-03-2014

Hi im building a new RB6 for the 2014 season and with new type of electronics VIPER i couldnt get it like i had last year with orion. VIPER esc is a bit higher. I also ran sadle packs last year, but now im going for the shorty.

I also going for a lot of EXOTEK bling so we will see how those works. (im still waiting for shock caps, spring adjusters and steering rack)

Has anyone else tried a battery setup like i am doing now? I have seen some similar bur with the battery all the way back and the esc in front.

I dont think it will make any balancing problems. The only thing that im worried about is that i cant get it all the way down to the chassi plate. Its about 2-3 mm clearing under it. So if this will impact the balance sideways is unknown due to little higher center of mass. But at the positive side it will have more mass wider then before so we will see if this is better against traction rolls.

mrroy76 · #**622** 01-03-2014

Bling

Muttlee · #**623** 17-03-2014

Hi all
I'm looking for a breakdown of parts needed to convert an RB6 to an RB5 rear arms? What is everyone doing for high grip tracks?

Cheers
Lee

Neil Skull · #**624** 18-03-2014

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Originally Posted by mrroy76

Hi im building a new RB6 for the 2014 season and with new type of electronics VIPER i couldnt get it like i had last year with orion. VIPER esc is a bit higher. I also ran sadle packs last year, but now im going for the shorty.

I also going for a lot of EXOTEK bling so we will see how those works. (im still waiting for shock caps, spring adjusters and steering rack)

Has anyone else tried a battery setup like i am doing now? I have seen some similar bur with the battery all the way back and the esc in front.

I dont think it will make any balancing problems. The only thing that im worried about is that i cant get it all the way down to the chassi plate. Its about 2-3 mm clearing under it. So if this will impact the balance sideways is unknown due to little higher center of mass. But at the positive side it will have more mass wider then before so we will see if this is better against traction rolls.

I have not seen it with the shorty more in the middle before, let us know how it goes!

Neil Skull · #**625** 18-03-2014

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Originally Posted by Muttlee

Hi all
I'm looking for a breakdown of parts needed to convert an RB6 to an RB5 rear arms? What is everyone doing for high grip tracks?

Cheers
Lee

Hi Lee,
UM521-1 is all you need the RB5 wishbones. you will need 2 as its a set!
many drivers use this set up on high grip.

danmurphy · #**626** 18-03-2014

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Originally Posted by Neil Skull

Hi Lee,
UM521-1 is all you need the RB5 wishbones. you will need 2 as its a set!
many drivers use this set up on high grip.

Doesn't UM521-1 only have the one mounting hole for the shocks? I have UM566 which has two holes on both sides of the arm. Again you need to order x2.
You will also need to either ream out the ends to fit the stock outer hinge pin or use these...

http://insidelineracing.co.uk/new-pr...51ca4c-details

You'll need 2 small button head screws same as the ones that hold the pins in the front wishbones, not sure on the size or part number for these though.

RogerM · #**627** 18-03-2014

I normally prefer to use the UM521/UM566/LA272 rear arms as they have the two holes in, normally drill another hole inside the inner most standard hole at the same spacing.

If you search for posts by me I did a full guid on fitting all the various arm combinations in response to a similar quesiton.

Muttlee · #**628** 19-03-2014

Thanks folks!! I'll give this a try then. Cheers

Muttlee · #**629** 21-03-2014

Hi all.
just received the rb5 wishbones. And noticed that um566 don't have any holes for the sway bar ? Or Will that not be needed now! Thanks again. :-)

RogerM · #**630** 24-03-2014

Not seen anybody run the straight arms with the sway bar kit on RB6, doesn't mean some haven't tried of course.

RudeTony · #**631** 24-03-2014

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Originally Posted by RogerM

Not seen anybody run the straight arms with the sway bar kit on RB6, doesn't mean some haven't tried of course.

Roger Roger Roger - LOL

ahhseeten · #**632** 11-04-2014

I've never found any info anywhere WHY the flat rb5 rear arms are better on high grip?... What exact scientific fact causes the benefit? What do they do differently that can't be achieved by setup alterations to the standard arms car?

Chris Elworthy · #**633** 11-04-2014

Good point there Mark,

From what I've read the flat arm allows the car to rotate flatter around the corner so in effect faster. I've tried the flat arms but have permanently gone back to the gullwings as I feel finding a good setup when the grip is low to be far far easier plus you have far more wheelbase adjustment that you don't get with the flat arms.

In high grip I add the roll bars and it seems to give a very similar feeling to the flat arms. At the end of the day all the flat arm is doing is limiting roll that can be achieved in other ways.

...just my opinion of course

Chris

Gayo · #**634** 11-04-2014

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Originally Posted by ahhseeten

I've never found any info anywhere WHY the flat rb5 rear arms are better on high grip?... What exact scientific fact causes the benefit? What do they do differently that can't be achieved by setup alterations to the standard arms car?

I am not an engineer but as the shock attaches to the arm in a place lower than a straight arm, it changes the rate of compression of the shock. Instead of a linear compression, you get something like a soft, neutral point at the beginning of compression (shock extended). A bit like running laydown shocks.

That's what I believe anyway

Oops · #**635** 14-04-2014

My Redworkshop RB6 CF conversion kit.
This is the 2014 version with the new lipo brace.

cornishboy176 · #**636** 15-04-2014

Ran my RB6 outdoors for the first time at the weekend, I was suffering with it nose diving off the jumps, I had to correct it by blipping the throttle in mid air but it unsettled the car when landing, am I right in thinking if I lengthen the front shocks slightly that will help??? Or any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Neil Skull · #**637** 15-04-2014

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Originally Posted by cornishboy176

Ran my RB6 outdoors for the first time at the weekend, I was suffering with it nose diving off the jumps, I had to correct it by blipping the throttle in mid air but it unsettled the car when landing, am I right in thinking if I lengthen the front shocks slightly that will help??? Or any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Many things to look at like where the weight distribution is, have you got drag brake set on ESC? The easiest fix is Softer rear springs or harder fronts to give better balance for jumping.

cornishboy176 · #**638** 15-04-2014

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Originally Posted by Neil Skull

Many things to look at like where the weight distribution is, have you got drag brake set on ESC? The easiest fix is Softer rear springs or harder fronts to give better balance for jumping.

Rudebits shorty conversion,speedo in front of motor,dumpy servo and I have got 10% drag brake on, X gear pink rear 27.5wt and X gear orange front 40wt

Mowen208fly · #**639** 15-04-2014

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Originally Posted by cornishboy176

Rudebits shorty conversion,speedo in front of motor,dumpy servo and I have got 10% drag brake on, X gear pink rear 27.5wt and X gear orange front 40wt

And you are from Cornwall

cornishboy176 · #**640** 15-04-2014

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Originally Posted by Mowen208fly

And you are from Cornwall

Sssshhhhh!! I didn't want anyone to know that!!!!