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Old 19-01-2014
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Default Geared Diff in Lupuz/TC02C

Hi,

My first post!

I have just completed and run the prototype of my aluminium gearbox to enable the Team-C geared diff to be used in the Lupuz/TC02C and anything else that uses the original gearbox from the Lupuz.

Would anyone else be interested? My current plan is to make a small batch and get one on ebay asap.

I shall try to attach a picture but as I have said, this is my first post on this forum so anything might happen.
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Old 19-01-2014
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I am very interested in one of these!
Do let me know what the price would be incl shipping to Belgium.
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Me too. I am very interested
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Old 20-01-2014
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Price is a good question.

If I logged all the hours spent on the prototype it would be about £30,000 but, as with all things, it is worth what you can get for it.

I notice that a Schumacher aluminium gearbox retails for about £65 so my plan was to put is on ebay with a starting price of £50 and see where it went.

The rear T-Plate has to be modified and the price would include the supply of a modified part plus gear casing and fasteners. Because the T-Plate has to be machined away where the gearbox sits, I have extended the gear casing forward to provide two additional fixing points, ahead of the thick rib that locates the pivots for the rear wishbones. It's a very stiff assembly.

For a limited period, anyone who contacts me via a PM on this forum (if you have them) and subsequently sends me a T-Plate for modification, can have one at the starting price of £50. Orders would be taken in strict rotation.

Personally, I think that you should buy them just to put in a glass case and look at them! But I'm biased. And they do let you put the beautiful Team-C geared diff in your car.

I suspect, but I'm still measuring one up, that the Durango diff would also fit.

It would be of assistance to me if someone could please give me a definitive list of all the Team-C cars that this gearbox is used on.
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Hi Clive it's lee

The cars that you have stated also the ansmann x2c and madmonkey

I have seen this gearbox at the weekend and it is a pice of art the quality of the gearbox is better than the vega,
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Thanks Lee,

The next one will be even prettier and a tad lighter too.

It's spoken for but I have material for two more at the minute.


Is there a truck or SC variant?
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Looks nice! If your down at southport this sunday id like to take a look! Would making it out of some kind of plastic reduce cost? Delrin for example? It will fit the 4 cars mentioned, the ansmann x2c (tco2c) and the ansmann mad monkey (lupuz) as they all use the same rear t piece and gearbox... Hope that helps
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I am very interested in one of these!
Do let me know what the price would be incl shipping to Belgium.
Thx.

Sorry Kusal,

I missed your question regarding shipping earlier.

Shipping to Belgium would be an additional cost in the order of £10 to £12 for a two day service.

I originally stated that I would require the T-Plate to be sent to me for modification but I see that DMS have them in stock at £4 so that is another additional cost if you don't have a spare T-Plate and want to keep racing whilst I'm machining.

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Looks nice! If your down at southport this sunday id like to take a look! Would making it out of some kind of plastic reduce cost? Delrin for example? It will fit the 4 cars mentioned, the ansmann x2c (tco2c) and the ansmann mad monkey (lupuz) as they all use the same rear t piece and gearbox... Hope that helps

Thanks Tom,

I was going to be at Southport this Sunday for some much needed practice but I now have my chin on the tank in an attempt to complete Production Unit #001 in time for a guy to use it at next month's BRCA indoor event.

I think that making it in plastic would be cheaper if it were done by 3D printing. But I don't have one of those..........yet!

Machining plastic is a bit of a sod and usually gives you about a week's work deburring all the edges and little feathery bits that get left behind. Glass filled plastics are better in that respect but the tool wear is worse than with aluminium. And it wouldn't be shiny!

The material cost isn't that significant. Most of the cost is in the machining hours, turning most of the aluminium into swarf and transferring it to my vacuum cleaner!

I shall be at the Turf-Wars round six on 2nd Feb though. Or you could take a drive to Hesketh Bank.
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Hi Clive,
Just sent you a pm with an order request!
One question; what is the weight difference compared to the plastic gearbox?
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Thanks for the order Kusal,

I don't have a definitive answer on the weight at the minute.

The original plastic drive-side casing weighs 8 grams and my prototype was 24 grams. However, when I manufactured the other half I took a lot of excess material out of it. But forgot to weigh it.

My target is to get the drive side half down to the order of 15 grams.

However, I'm being asked to incorporate a lug on the front of the box to facilitate the mounting of a chassis stiffening strut! This is going to add a bit back on. I would think that a steel strut down to the top of the battery retaining plate will have more weight than the amount of aluminium that I'm able to shave off the casing.

Some people may be bothered about the weight and others may not.


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No problem for the extra lug, then you have the option to use it or not.
So there will be approx 20 to 30 g extra weight, I do not see this an issue. I used to run with 104 g under the lipo and only recently switch to a plate of 54 g.
I do feel the difference but I can certainly live with extra weight if I can run with a gear dif!!!
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Many thanks Kusal,

Payment received and thanks also for the feedback regarding the lug.

I will be making the first two units in parallel and will then have enough material in hand for one more. After that this offer will be closed.

I expect these first two to take up to four weeks to complete as I set up the production versions of the programming and incorporate the refinements that have been identified by the prototype.

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Ok, thx.
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I was wrong, DMS do not have the T-Plates and do not intend to try to obtain any in the next two weeks!

Can anyone suggest where I can purchase this item within the UK?
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We have one in stock if this is what you are after?

http://insidelineracing.co.uk/new-pr...-plate-details

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Thanks Kev,

That is the beast and I had already started one of your carts with it in but was going to ring in the morning to see if you really only had just the one.

How quickly could you supply four?

If I have to buy each one separately I'm going to wind up broke due to postage charges. I'm already charging less for the finished part than I will have to pay for them.

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Hi Clive,

They should be with us on Monday. If you drop us and email to sales at insidelineracing.co.uk so we have your details we let you know when they are in.

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Hi Clive,

They should be with us on Monday. If you drop us and email to sales at insidelineracing.co.uk so we have your details we let you know when they are in.

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Will send email tomorrow.

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Hi Clive,

They should be with us on Monday. If you drop us and email to sales at insidelineracing.co.uk so we have your details we let you know when they are in.

Cheers
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Hi Kev,

I'm having trouble opening your web site. Is your internet groggy?

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