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Has any one used one of the Proline phantom shells for the RB6. I was wondering what the fit was like as the same shell fits the Tamiya as we'll.

Also what the idea of the fin on the rear.
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I'm not sure they are available over here yet, I see CML have them listed but I haven seen them pop up in any of the usuall shops yet.

I got one of the tamiya shells for my rb6 and the fit is good so I guess the proline shell should be ok

I guess the fin would be some sort of aerodynamic aid, maybe to make it more stable in the air????
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I'm not sure they are available over here yet, I see CML have them listed but I haven seen them pop up in any of the usuall shops yet.

I got one of the tamiya shells for my rb6 and the fit is good so I guess the proline shell should be ok

I guess the fin would be some sort of aerodynamic aid, maybe to make it more stable in the air????
I see that CML list them but didn't try to buy one. I was looking at the Tamiya she'll, I quite like it I may go with that if Proline isn't available.
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Elliot boots runs one however that doesn't mean there available to everyone atm
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They are available alright...just received two for next season
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They are available alright...just received two for next season
From the UK? I see A main had them, they are also on EBay but I wasn't in that much of a hurry to have to get one from overseas...
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No not from UK...I am located in Greece and I ask a rc store here to get me a couple of those.

I think they got them from Hoeco, Hupo's company in Austria, which is also a main Proline dealer
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Hi Gents,

Got my Avid 4x1.3 pistons today.
I'm looking for a carpet setup with shorty and kit rear arms for RB6 please.

thanks a lot
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Hi Gents,

Got my Avid 4x1.3 pistons today.
I'm looking for a carpet setup with shorty and kit rear arms for RB6 please.

thanks a lot
Found an high grip astro track setup.
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...tone201310.pdf

Not for carpet track but i will try it
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Put the straight arms on mate, well worth doing!
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I second that Oops, use the flat arms. I can give you a set if you don't have any, PM me mate!
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Thanks a lot for replies !

I know flat arms are really better on high grip, but tbh each time i want to order a set i don't know what is the good reference to take

Gayo, thanks mate, i'll drop you an MP
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Gayo's car was awesome on Sunday, flat wishbones for sure Julien.

You can use any sets besides the first RB5 ones, only the front are different between SP, SP2 and WC (um521/um566 if I'm right).

You'll need short ballcups on shocks ends too.
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Just to help these are the part numbers you can use to get the correct flat rear wishbones for the RB6 (you will need 2 packs)

UM566 (RB5 Worlds)
UM521-1 (RB5 SP2?)
LA272 (Lazer ZX5 SP2)

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thank you
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Sorry for the strange question but why do you need 2 packs of these arms?
Are there any changes needed to install them?
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2 packs needed because you only get 1 rear in each pack. Shock ball end needs to be a shorter one from what I read. Gonna test fit some on mine today.
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Sorry for the strange question but why do you need 2 packs of these arms?
Are there any changes needed to install them?
Yes, you need 2 packs as stated as it is 1 front and 1 rear arm per pack. If you run the Lazer as a 4wd get 2 x LA272 as you can use the front arms on that.
Otherwise I'd suggest going for UM521 (not UM521-1 as that only has the 1 shock mounting hole on the non-loop side) as this gives you a pair of RB5 front wishbones which I have used on the RB6 in combination with the relevant front hinge pin mount (sorry can't remember the number as so long since I bought one), this can calm some of the agression out of the RB6 which is helpful in some situations.

Mods to fit:- yes, you either have to use the RB5 outer hinge pins along with the little M2.6 screws to capture them OR you can do what most do and drill / ream the smaller hole out to 3mm and use the RB6 hunge pins with 2mm of plastic washers either side between the wishbone edge and the nuts.
Additionally you will need to use 2x1mm spacers for wheelbase adjustment (come with the arms) and obviously remove the 2mm spacer from in front of the wishbone on the inner hinge pin.

Mounting them:- choices as can go on either way around BUT most people put them on so the loop is rear facing as this gives the best wheelbase range (the other way is 3.5mm different). If you do this then need to mount the shock eyelet OUTSIDE the loop with another eyelet ball / spacers inside the loop, this will need a longer screw of course.

The EXTRA hole :- a lot of people drill another hole 4mm inside the existing inner one, this gives a more upright shock that really helps the car on our high grip tracks. this extra hole is "just" inside the loop, you may need to choose you spacers for inside the loop carefully or reduce their size a little.
If you do drill this EXTRA hole then please make sure that you put a screw through the original outer hole in the wishbone along with another eyelet ball/spacer to strength the wishbone as drilling the extra hole does stress the part a little higher.

Shock eyelets :- as a rule of thumb use the kit "LONG" eyelets with the kit arms, "Medium" eyelets when using the 2 standard holes in the straight wishbones and "short" eyelets when using the drilled EXTRA hole.

With the big bores try either kit pistons / 400cst oil / red spring on the inside hole or if using the EXTRA hole a Losi Pink spring with 350cst oil is a good place to start. Even better try a 4x1.3 piston with 50cst lower oil grade.
With small bores I believe most run the 3B piston and similar oils to stated above with either a dark yellow or yellow spring respectively.

Hope that gives you all you need to know.
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wow thank you very much for the information!!!
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Hi Roger,

Do you happen to have a photo of the 521 rear arms fitted with the extra hole?
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