Schumacher to Re Release the Cat XL!

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Originally Posted by Retro RC

Lol or just go nuts like me and own 5 of them

I wish!!!

[Bigdawgracer]

Hi all,

I raced these back in the day and someone at the club even had a pre-production roller! Being more used to Hotshots and Optimas this thing blew our minds at the time!

Anyways last week there was one of these racing and it brought back loads of memories, so much so that i’m Thinking of getting one but have a few questions first.

Can I run saddle lipos?
Is there a conversion to run modern hex wheels?
What is the motor limit with or without the transmission up-grade?

Thanks for reading!

[fidspeed]

Kit comes with old stickpack style nimh battery fittings and shorty lipo option
which is best solution
I think I have seen somewhere castle to 12mm hex adapter possibly shapeways?
Irun 10.5 with boost at worksop indoors on original transmission no issues so far and is plenty quick enough I have upgraded transmission just not got round to fitting it yet
buy build enjoy!!!

Dave

[Bigdawgracer]

Thanks Dave,

Got loads of saddle lipos and hex wheels so makes sense to run these if I can?!

Seem to remember running the old saddle ‘soft’ pack batteries back in the day, no plastic cases or shrink wrap back then.....lol

[Groomi]

There was a saddle chassis option from Schumacher back in the day.

You can get them in carbon from Fibrelyte here: http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/fl/cars/...er/catxls.html but you'll need to make a cradle to hold modern lipo's.

[fidspeed]

Shapeways indeed do castle to hex adaptors 4 or 5mm thickness if you order a set please let me know how you get on might order a set myself
Regards dave

[fidspeed]

Forgot to add id just buy couple shorty lipos clamps and fittings already in kit saves faffing about
Dave

[Bigdawgracer]

Cheers Dave and Groomi,

Seriously tempted now. Done a lot of reading up last day or so.

Would be great to race one of these again.

How do they fare against modern stuff?

I'm assuming an original Bosscat, like I used to run, would command a mega high price these days if I could find one?
Did they come with a saddle pack chassis as standard?

Cheers!

[daz75]

Originally Posted by Bigdawgracer

Cheers Dave and Groomi,

Seriously tempted now. Done a lot of reading up last day or so.

Would be great to race one of these again.

How do they fare against modern stuff?

I'm assuming an original Bosscat, like I used to run, would command a mega high price these days if I could find one?
Did they come with a saddle pack chassis as standard?

Cheers!

Boss cat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F332512621775

[Peakey]

Originally Posted by daz75

Boss cat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F332512621775

That’s just a sport god knows whey it went so high, not really worth half that

[fidspeed]

obviously was to some one or dodgy bidding

good job I have few to clear out sometime !!!

dave

[daz75]

Originally Posted by Peakey

That’s just a sport god knows whey it went so high, not really worth half that

Didn't know there were 2 types What's the difference

[Peakey]

Originally Posted by daz75

Didn't know there were 2 types What's the difference

There were more than 2 this is lifted from here: https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.p...=4767&start=15


1992 Bosscat Competition Spec U440S £240 ROAR, UK, Scandinavian National champion, 3rd in Euros (Ben Sturnham) '93
1992 Club10 Cougar U441T £79 "Sport" version of Cougar. 540 motor + MSC
1992 Club10 Storm U443V £89 Based on Cougar - "sport" version of Storm truck. 540 motor + MSC
1992 Procat SE U427F £175 Special edition with 2.2" wheels & light coloured varishocks
1992 Storm truck U432K £150 Cougar 2 based with Cougar mk.1 frt wishbones
1992 Bosscat Sport U444W £150 Original Sport version with black shocks
1992 Cougar 2 Works U452E £170 Also seen as part # U453F in 1993!
1993 Storm truck Works U454G £150 Never seen one
1993 Bosscat Works U455H £240 Released March 1993
1993 Cougar 2000 U457J £190 Double deck composite chassis, geared drivetrain
1993 CAT 2000 U460M £249 Released October '93. 2nd (Kevin Moore) & 3rd (William Mitcham) '93 Worlds. Euro 1994 winner Austria (Craig Drescher), 1995 Euros winner Finland (Craig Drescher),
1993 Club10 2wd Escort Cosworth U439R £95
1994 Cougar 2000 '94 Spec U457J £190 As per 1993 car, but now with Co-Axial driveshafts & diff to match
1994 CAT 2000 Touring U496W £240 Calibra shell
1994 Bosscat Sport U471X £135 Red shocks version inc. motor & MSC

[fidspeed]

as peakey says there more than 2 versions

simplest I can do is
"sport"stick pack chassis plastic shocks non- slipper layshaft "sport" diffs partial bearing kit some bronze bushed

"team" saddle chassis (poss glassfibre) slipper clutch layshaft metal shocks pro diffs bearing kit red anodized side frames

"works" similar spec purple anodised side frames carbon chassis rest similar to "team car"

I have a sport and team cars currently my team car has upgraded carbon fibre chassis and top deck
I think those are major differences looking at my two im sure someone will come along and correct any errors

dave

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Originally Posted by Peakey

Wait for the toy fair at the end of the month I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll be another re re in 2wd form along with the new Cat K3 or whatever there going to call it

Does anybody know if Schumacher released any plans for another re re?

[Peakey]

Nothing yet but who knows I’d be very surprised if they didn’t do something else

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Originally Posted by Peakey

Nothing yet but who knows I’d be very surprised if they didn’t do something else

I hope so, just made some spare space for another project

[Retro RC]

Originally Posted by fidspeed

as peakey says there more than 2 versions

simplest I can do is
"sport"stick pack chassis plastic shocks non- slipper layshaft "sport" diffs partial bearing kit some bronze bushed

"team" saddle chassis (poss glassfibre) slipper clutch layshaft metal shocks pro diffs bearing kit red anodized side frames

"works" similar spec purple anodised side frames carbon chassis rest similar to "team car"

I have a sport and team cars currently my team car has upgraded carbon fibre chassis and top deck
I think those are major differences looking at my two im sure someone will come along and correct any errors

dave

Pretty sure both the team and works had carbon chassis, main differences between the team and the works were the rear suspension, purple anodising and the pro hard anodised shocks

[Avante2001R]

This by far the worst car I have ever built but my first Schumacher. I’ve built several Tamiya, TRF, Kyosho YZ10 models but this was definitely a painful experience but also parts quality is so poor as is the finish. Steering is a joke followed as per instructions and very stiff not free and smooth like wise the pivot on the balls for the hub.

I mean who the hell uses self tappers into aluminium? For the eccentrics why could they have not tapped it and used fine screws? If Tamiya could manage it back in the 80s?

Now I need to find a circlip pliers that’s small enough and the car is done oh and the missing roll bar joint end from the kit.

I just hope when I run it doesn’t disintegrate.....might use a mild 17T brushed motor.

[fidspeed]

I'm using a 10.5 brushless with mild boost on standard transmissions indoors at worksop masters had no issues yet with failing tranny

Just make sure front gearbox housing screws are nipped tight mine has slipped once causing loose Belt tension on front

The idea of 're release was an authentic copy of original and that's what we got
I think most have become shelf queens not seen many racing yet

Regards dave