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mardave v12 setups
ive just bought a mardave v12 , and am trying to get it , ready to race ..
im after some help on setups .. springs and tyre choice .. tyres.. ive got pink soft on the front and pink mediums on the rear and springs ive got grey front and red on the back .. .. cheers for any help |
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i run standard springs all round ufra pinks on the rear and jap40 on the front seems to work really well you want a 205 shell on as well
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Gearing is a big for mardave's tho
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kit springs, pink medium rears and a couple of pairs of jap 44 and 46 front maybe even 42 for the first heat. thats enough to reach the A's little bit of playing around and you'll walk it.
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Found at hinckley that jap med's work or pink med's on the front
but on a smaller track 44 & 46 on the front with a diff in the back with pink med's Also its not all about straight line speed I got 4th Q on the small track and got 3rd in the final with the slowest car out there in a straight line I only done well was because i was soo quick in the corner's and smooth with it |
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we race down at the same club
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okay so you have better know how of your track As i have not raced at poole (Yet )
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i didnt mean it to sound rude as im no expert but it seems to work for me down there and im sure it cant be that far off
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Mardave's are so easy to set up but you do need spare motor's with you run in (you have to run in these new one's in now or they will be slowwwwwwww) Keep your baseplate nice and flat when all 4 tyre's are on and its sat on a flat surface and if its nice and balanced from left to right it will be good |
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i know what you mean i ended up going with the hunter systems motor, kills it.
cant be sure if he's flipped the front arms and added washers |
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We have to run the mardave one
I used an old mardave motor from back in the day of 2006 it was good till it went up in smoke :P I was tempted to put an areo naught in as it will last a good amount of races something like 30-40 meeting's but last time i had one in some one complaned so it had to be taken out (only cus i was beating him) so i went back to the mardave motor and still kicked his butt All fun whilst mardave racing (also there's no where online to buy the areo naught btw well not that i know of anyway) |
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Jap Meds on the back. 46's on the front. Kit springs. RS540SH motor. 14/48 gearing. Usual mods with wishbones and washers.
After a few meaty head-ons the chassis bends up nicely at the front which gives you some extra caster. Oh and don't forget the Austin Westminster shell Time to go wrecking!!
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On my Hot Rod always the same at the front JAP Med trued down to 46mm Pink Soft Most of the time on the rear, can change to SE Med ( Don`t think available now ) & LB )
Always Renault Clio Williams Mk1 Lexan Shell |
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Pink med on the rear left, SE gold on the rear right. fronts depend on your track, we have terrible carpet (lots of tape) but its silly grippy, i have to run 52's with superglue on the edge of my front left to give even less grip.
put some washers (1mm - 2mm) under the front screw of your a arms on the front. this will help keep the car straight. with mardave v12's its all about right tires the rest is luck (not getting stuck in crashs) and luck if your silver can motor lasts more than 3 meetings. we all changed to the ezrun brushless systems (35A) got them a year ago 5 of the systems we bought (£50 each) are still running fine with no problems, if u was to try brushless i recomend these systems. also this info on another site has always helped me. Tyres The tyres are one of, if not THE most important things to get right if you want your car to handle well. For carpet racing, I would recommend UFRA SE medium or UFRA Pink Soft rears and UFRA pink medium or UFRA Jap Medium fronts. The fronts work better when they are trued to about 49mm, and used until they're worn almost to the rim. Also let them wear in, so they are coned (smaller diameter on outside than inside). You can also tune them with super glue. To do this, put super glue on the outside wall of the front tyres, making the tyre wall go hard. This gives the tyres less flex, and therefore less grip. Apply more superglue for more understeer. You can also put a small blob of glue on the outside edge of the contact surface of the tyre if gluing the walls doesn't give you enough understeer. For the rear tyres, I find these tend to work better when they are about 53mm in diameter. (although I true them to 56 and use them 'till they're about 49!). You can put grooves in the rear tyres using a hacksaw blade. This enables them to flex more, and thus gives more grip. Doing this also reduces some of your front end grip. Front Suspension Firstly, turn your wishbones upside down, in order to lower the front of the chassis. You should aim to get the chassis as level as possible. If the back is higher than the front, the car will tend to understeer. If the front is higher, the car is more likely to oversteer (spin out). Next, put washers/spacers of some sort under the front of the wishbones, so the kingpins are angled backwards slightly. Raise the front of the wishbones by around 2-3 mm. This gives the front end positive castor, which will reduce the chances of the car spinning out on corner exits. It will tend to give the car more mid corner steering, but less on entry and exit Rear Suspension You should have your rear springs relatively soft/loose. Adjust the nuts so that the chassis 'sags' about 1mm below the rear edge of the motor pod when the car is at rest. If, when you pull away the car pulls to one side, but later straightens up, you can cure the problem using the rear suspension. If the car pulls to the right, tighten the right hand nut, and loosen the left one a little (looking from back of car). Do this in 1/4 turn increments until the car pulls away straight. If the problem persists, consider replacing the spur gear, as they wear out. Fit ballraces to the rear axle; they make your car a little faster, as there is less rolling resistance! Drive Use a smaller pinion gear for more acceleration, and a larger one for more top end speed. A 14T is a good size to start on, as I find it works well on most track sizes and shapes. Bear in mind that you may wish to increase pinion size as your rear tyres wear out. Smaller tyres will give you more acceleration than large ones. However, I wouldn't recommend going up/down by more than 1 tooth in this situation. There should be a little play between the spur and pinion, in order to get a smooth drive. If the mesh is too tight, it will ultimately slow your car down and make the motor hot. Do not have too much play or else the spur will strip easily. If you find the pinion/spur makes a lot of noise, boil some water, and leave your spur gear in it for 5 mins. This softens the plastic, making your car sound smoother! Bodyshell You will be surprised at how much difference the bodyshell will make to the handling of your car. I would recommend any of the following, as they seem to make the car fairly well balanced; ABS; peugeot 205, ford fiesta, any of the ABS vesions of the shells listed below Lexan; Clio mk1 (my favourite), wide body 205, toyota starlet, BMW mini, peugeot 206 Extra Tips Fit a front bumper made from GRP or carbon fibre to protect you king pins and stub axles. A bent pin/axle will dramatically affect your cars handling. Try replacing your body mounts with front and rear associated tc3 posts. This way, your body will never come off during a race. If you have an electronic speedo, remove the top plate and place the speedo where the receiver should be. Put the receiver ontop of the steering sevo, and use a tube for the aerial. Use fibreglass tape to hold you batteries in, or alternatively the mardave cobra battery mounts do the job well. Paint your shell bright colours. I find this helps me drive because the car doesn't blend in with the carpet/scenery, so you can see it and other drivers can see you more easily too. It's surprising how many people are baffled as to how I (and others) get a hot-rod to go so fast. All I can say is that I make sure the motor is clean, and that my batteries are in good condition (I'd recommend geting 3300's or 3700's). As long as you have a half decent esc, there's no reason why your car shouldn't be as fast as mine or anyone elses in a straight line. |
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ive race the v12 for 2 weeks now at poole ( dmrcc) and have done realy well , ive got pink soft on the rear and jap 42 on the front , standard gearing - 48spur and 12 pinion , fr wishbones was turned arround and washers added ..
ive finished in the to 2 on both weeks , have been leading untill getting taken out by backmarkers .. last night i beat some who have been doing the mo3 class and tc class at national level for 10yrs or so . they let you go thro and lap them, then after they have been lapped like 2-3 maybe 4 times they , take ya out ... cheers for your help , and carty too .. |
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proper old thread but useful
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Found this thread, thought i'd reply to it, so any new to mardaves as myself can have a gander
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