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Default ZXR MKII main belt issue.

I'm currently looking at replacing a worn belt on my Lazer ZXR mk2 and the LA-13 seems very loose. Is this the wrong belt for this car and are there any other good options out there as a replacement?
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I'm currently looking at replacing a worn belt on my Lazer ZXR mk2 and the LA-13 seems very loose. Is this the wrong belt for this car and are there any other good options out there as a replacement?
Please help. Cheers-Jason

Hi Jason,

Yes there is ==> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOUGHRACING-...item51a7632684

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The question I need to ask is, does the ZXR MK2 require a shorter front belt than the LA13? I have fitted a genuine nip belt and it's still too loose.
Does the later model ZXR MK2 require a different belt? A shorter one?
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The question I need to ask is, does the ZXR MK2 require a shorter front belt than the LA13? I have fitted a genuine nip belt and it's still too loose.
Does the later model ZXR MK2 require a different belt? A shorter one?
The Lazer MkII use the same LA13 belt used by the other Lazer series car.

On my Lazer MkII the belt came lose with use, but the problem is not the belt. The problem is that the holes of the upper deck are a little too big and after some jumps and landings the front bulkhead (LA32) will move a little toward the rear of the car so the belt will became lose.

If you lose the screws that hold the top deck to the front bulkhead and re tight them with the chassis on a flat surface you will see that the length of the belt is ok.

I still have to find a good fix on my car, but now I understand why on the custom Welshy top deck the screws have a countersunk hole (using a countersunk hole the front bulkhead cannot move toward the rear of the car).

Maybe we have to ask to Fiber Lyte a custom Zx-r MkII top deck with countersunk holes ......

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So they've used the same length belt for the earlier ZX & ZXR as the later ZXRR & ZXR MKII even though in the later two models they shifted the rear gearbox forward. Essentially the belt should have been shorter.
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The gearboxes are in the same place on the MKI and MKII the only difference is the rear bulkhead was moved further back so the batteries could be moved further back and the top deck is longer as a consequence
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They didn't move the gearbox, the moved the cells from what I understand.
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My bad, thanks for helping straighten me out gents. The belt feels a lot looser than that on my ZXR so I loosened the top plate, flatenned the chassis out then retightened. It did take up some of the slack. Maybe I need a special top plate as previously mentioned with countersunk holes?
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If you run it the front belt over time does slacken. Its plausible that the top deck is the wrong length or your lower on one of the mounting points for it
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This can be an alternative solution to a different top deck, plus it helps in preventing the LA32 breakage.
I think that the metal parts can be extended over the steering bellcranks screws.

Unfortunately the car in the photo is not mine .....




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Default LEGENDS shock towers.

on another note I picked up some very nice shock towers from Ema a while back that are on my ZX vintage racer. You know, the ones that have so many holes they could be mistaken for swiss cheese.... Anyway Ive damaged the rear tower whilst hitting up a big jump section a little while back and would love to find some heavy duty C/F or G10 examples.
Does any one make these or have files from which to machine them from?
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on another note I picked up some very nice shock towers from Ema a while back that are on my ZX vintage racer. You know, the ones that have so many holes they could be mistaken for swiss cheese.... Anyway Ive damaged the rear tower whilst hitting up a big jump section a little while back and would love to find some heavy duty C/F or G10 examples.
Does any one make these or have files from which to machine them from?
I damaged my Fibre Lyte James Instone Lazer ZX rear shock tower too casing a huge jump.
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ountersunk the holes and get and maybe welsh can help with an solution to tighten the belt .

regarding the broken tower maybe just sending it to fibrelyte might help ????

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Pictures would be helpful
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Default ZX-R(R) Slipper/ Hyperclutch

Hi guys,

ist me again with some questions about the lazers slipper or hyperclutch.

Aditional for my Lazer ZX I get a layshaft with the slipperunit from a ZX-R,
I found it on ebay:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/281258678972?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1439.l2649

Is it necessary to change only the slipperplates and the pads, or shall I use the complete layshaft for making works? (I have the LA6 and the LAW4, witch ist better for using the ZX-R-Slipper?)

Yesterday I found a little bit damaged ZX-RR with the hypercluth. It will arrive in the next days. Here ist the gearbox and the hyperclutch complete.

Does the hyperclutch(only one slipperpad) better works than the slipper oft he ZX-R (two red slipperplads)?

Is it correct, that the ZX-R slipperplates are not longer available?
And, last question: There is a lipperpad for a associated car, that should fit in the hyperclutch.
What ist the part number or correct name of this spare part?
Thank you for helping me an excuse my bad english.

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Hi guys,

ist me again with some questions about the lazers slipper or hyperclutch.

Aditional for my Lazer ZX I get a layshaft with the slipperunit from a ZX-R,
I found it on ebay:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/281258678972?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1439.l2649

Is it necessary to change only the slipperplates and the pads, or shall I use the complete layshaft for making works? (I have the LA6 and the LAW4, witch ist better for using the ZX-R-Slipper?)

Yesterday I found a little bit damaged ZX-RR with the hypercluth. It will arrive in the next days. Here ist the gearbox and the hyperclutch complete.

Does the hyperclutch(only one slipperpad) better works than the slipper oft he ZX-R (two red slipperplads)?

Is it correct, that the ZX-R slipperplates are not longer available?
And, last question: There is a lipperpad for a associated cat, that should fit in the hyperclutch.
What ist the part number or correct name of it?

Thank you for helping me an excuse my bad english.

Regards
Ralf
Looking at the picture on ebay, it seems that you bought a Kyosho Triumph slipper.
The gear and the pads are the same, but the shaft is different from the one used by the Zx-r.
You can check the difference looking at the Triumph manual here: http://www.retromodelisme.com/pdf/ma...18/triumph.pdf

The hyperclucth works better, but I don't know if it can handle the low turn brushless motors.

Some peoples here (including myself) are waiting the custom alcyon's B4 slipper shaft that will allow us to use the newer associated B4 slippers (the standard and the VTS one).

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Hi Ema,

at ebay the part was announced as a ZX-R part, shit....
May be the slipperplates and the pads could be fixed on the lazer zx layshaft. Put the balls out of the spurgear, also the LA3. Put in the TM 12, while missing the LA56 I will try to use a mixture of TM13 and LA6. I hope, the flatted area on the ZX-layshaft is therefore usable.
Ohterwise I will resell it. Ok, waiting for the ZX-RR. I dont will use brushless with less than 10T, so the hyperclutch may work fine, I hope so.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-As...item3a8adf74ba

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Hyper clutch is much easier to use but now with brushless motors the two red slipper pad clutch may be the best way forward. All clutches are listed in the manuals and all have different front and back plates so manual checking is advised first before buying.

The red pads are hard to locate but what you can do is buy the extra torque b4/b44 slipper pads and cut to the exact size to fit. That way you will have a few spare should they burn out.

Also fyi my back up lazer has this clutch fitted but is untested so i could be wrong.
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Thank you for your helpful answers.

Is the layshaft of the ZX-R the same as the layshaft of the ZX-RR?

The manual about the ZX-RR contains the ZX-R manual and two aditional sides (supplemantary instuction manual). Insinde there is no different part numer for the hyperclutch-layshaft. On the pictures it looks ab bit different.
Perhaps I can change the slippers at ZX-RR (either hypercluth or the two red pads).

I could buy a new Lazer ZX-R layshaft, but for compleeting the unit, there are much more parts necessary, that I dont have on my Lazer ZX.

BTW:
I read several times a description about the center-diff with using LA-6 or LAW-4, but I have not understood the functionality of it (more power front / more power rear). I tried to translate the explanation about the drive unit, like setting Type 1 and Type 3 - I think, I am not tecnical enough.That is my major reason for upgrading to a ZX-R (or RR).
The ZX works good, but this "not understanding of the drive unit from the ZX" sucks.

Have a nice day!

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