Scrap Clubman in favour of formula racing

Legacy555 · #1 23-03-2012

Hi all,

There has been much talk of late about modifying the rules to allow the faster Clubman drivers to compete with the slower modified drivers.

The aim of any amendment to the rules would be to promote competition in the "mid" field and to isolate and protect new racers from being blown out of the water by the faster drivers in the same class.

So, I'm going to make the following proposal (in time, once developed) to the committee for adoption into the rules for this year's outdoor championhip - and by default it will more than likely be adopted into weekly racing. This is only an concept for an amendment and it can be tweaked based on the feedback that we get here and at racing before it is implemented.

Scrap the Clubman class, and put everyone into the modified class - this will fill up heats more and avoid marshalling issues related to 2 or 3 car races.
Give everyone new formula gradings from F1 to F5. F1 will be a National Championship winner - any motor, free esc timing. F2 will be drivers with any motor and free esc timing at are calcluated to be on average a certain percentage slower than the lead F1 driver. F3 will be drivers with any motor, but no esc timing allowed who are again a certain percentage slower than the lead F1 driver. F4 will be drivers with 10.5 or greater motors and no esc timing who are a certain percentage slower than the lead F1 driver. F5 will be drivers with 10.5 or greater motors and no esc timing who have less than 1 full years racing experience.
Prizes will be awarded to top 3 overall and top 2 or 3 in each formula instead of by Modified / Clubman.

This concept is really focused on F3 - The modified drivers who are 2 laps+ off the lead modified drivers pace will be catagorised as F3, as will the current leading clubman drivers. So we should have 8 - 10 drivers in this section all on a very similar pace.

....... I;ve to think more about this, but thought I'd get the initial idea out there for general digestion.

Legacy555 · #2 23-03-2012

Just to add to this,

We would also have to incorporate a system of progression, so tha the winner of any formula would move up to next formula in the following year.... etc.

celticpanman · #3 23-03-2012

Hi. I personally will be staying in clubman. It is more fun,closer racing, more competitors

I feel that if someone is fast enough and wants to go faster GO MODIFIED.
This was proposed before, discussed and it was felt BETTER FOR THE CLUB to leave the classes as they are.
Also if a driver wins a championship they have the choice ( not the club) if they want to progress.
They might not want to, they might only have won it by a close margin and was lucky

This was voted on by those who turned up to vote on it.

Let's see
Graham

Legacy555 · #4 23-03-2012

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Originally Posted by celticpanman

Hi. I personally will be staying in clubman. It is more fun,closer racing, more competitors

I feel that if someone is fast enough and wants to go faster GO MODIFIED.
This was proposed before, discussed and it was felt BETTER FOR THE CLUB to leave the classes as they are.
Also if a driver wins a championship they have the choice ( not the club) if they want to progress.
They might not want to, they might only have won it by a close margin and was lucky

This was voted on by those who turned up to vote on it.

Let's see
Graham

Hi Graham,
Good to see that we're getting the discussion rolling.
This doesn't have to be about going faster or slower - its more about pitching drivers of equal ability together. It also reduces marshalling issues by getting rid of heats with 2 or 3 cars in them.

It will allow drivers like Ciaran, Lucy, Adam, Aaron and all other new drivers to win something without having to beat Ivan or David. Similarly, Ken, Jack and Dave would all have a championship within a championship to race for.

Whether we limit motors or ban esc timing for whatever formulas can all be worked out at a later stage - it's just about putting the feelers out to see what people think.

I understand your viewpoint, but Ivan, Lee, David and Kevin all seem to be interested in how this could be worked out.

Sv1keith · #5 23-03-2012

Hi will just to clear what you pupose is in a roundabout way is keeping junior racers in a class of there own at 10.5 and senior clubclass go modified with f3 f2 racers

Legacy555 · #6 23-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Sv1keith

Hi will just to clear what you pupose is in a roundabout way is keeping junior racers in a class of there own at 10.5 and senior clubclass go modified with f3 f2 racers

Hi Keith,
At the moment we have 2 classes, Clubman and Modified
Modified = F1, F2 and F3
Clubman = F4 and F5.
We award 2 sets of prizes every season - one for clubman, one for modified.

What I propose is that we have 5 prizes. Get rid of the Clubman and modified system and use

F5 = new racers (less than 1 full year experience)
F4 = better than F5 but worse than F4
F3 = better than F4 but worse than F3
F2 = better than F3 but worse than F1
F1 = best drivers

We would have to work out the technical regulations for each formula.
F5 and F4 would be the same as current clubman - 10.5 motor and no esc advanced timing.
F3 could be 10.5 with timing or faster motor with no timing or something else.
F2 and F1 would run with the current modified regulation.