Questionnaire

[colin76]

Some interesting points raised from everyone on this subject, from my racing point of view I prefer the control tyre format, at least you know what tyres to buy before the meetings. My concerns are...1. Each club would have to scrutineer everycar after every heat in stead of picking 3/4 to weigh/measure etc, to make sure all were running the correct tyres, so maybe this would need doing before the heat starts? Possibly causing a delay to the start of the race. 2. We would really need some guidlines for either juniors/beginners, maybe allow one meeting running any tyres for new members/juniors, what would happen if a "junior" started getting in the A final and was running "free" tyres all year? So somethink that would need looking at in detail. IF we went down the control tyre route, the region could buy X amount of tyres and sell them to the drivers, possibly getting a discount from 1 or 2 manufacture's for buying bulk.

As for the AGM, it would depend on numbers but last year I held it in Bury St Edmunds as this seemed fairly central. It would be after the BRCA agm.

[Benh]

Proposal:

This is my proposal for tyres in 2014. It covers three options, with two of the 3 options to be deleted.

1: Control tyres.

For 2014 control tyres will be used and for the DRIVEN wheels only. For simplicity, control tyres will be referred to as ‘Wet’ and ‘Dry’ tyres. There are no limitations on how many and/or when the driver can elect to use them. The control tyres specified must include manufacturer, type/tread, compound; and part numbers.

Example:
Wet: Ballistic Buggy, Spike, Green; (BBT08, BBT01)
Dry: Schumacher, Minispike, Yellow; (U6557, U6558)

<Option 1> “The Series” *
At the AGM, the tyres for the series are voted in. These tyres are the only ones available for the entire series. (Regional Rep carries the casting vote in a tie)

<Option 2> “Track Specific” *
Each club nominates their ‘wet’ and ‘dry’ tyre for their club and submits by January 31st for publishing that week.

<Option 3> “The Series” & “Track Specific” *

<When the two differ this will offer drivers the choice of up to 2 dry and 2 wet tyres for that track. This ensures that unique tracks can submit a tyre choice more suited to their track and (whilst openly stealing from the Mid-West) “…enable more brands to be considered and contribute to the development of the sport and the industry as a whole”>

*Exception to the rules:
Commercially and widely available RTR (Ready to Run) vehicles will be allowed to run the tyres that they came with from the factory, on the condition the car has not been modified in anyway; (identical like for like spares are acceptable). The ESC and Motor must be the same as originally installed from factory. RTR includes all commercially available 1:10 vehicles complying with construction, size and weight with a production run greater than 1000 and must be or must have been before it was discontinued, widely available.

<This exception to the rule is to benefit newcomers and youngsters. It is also worded to prevent cheeky peeps knocking up an “rtr” in the shed.>

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Reference to the above. The tyres for this year has been insane and mainly because of the "new" tracks and varied surfaces. I strongly believe that a control tyre will benefit the series as a whole.

Remember, it is just a proposal. It needs consensus and a vote to be carried. If you don't like all or some of it, feel free to submit your own or edit the one I have put in. Whatever you want, write it down, make sure it makes sense and gain support before the day. The AGM's drag on far too long as it is.

[Chris Larner]

Ill second the proposal and vote Option 1 now.

[dicky14]

if you run in the mid east region you have to run control tyres of either schuey mini spike any compound, ballistic mini spike any compound, d-boot multibyte and fastrax turdgripper(turf ripper lol) but front tyres are open. it put everyone on a level playing field because no one tyre is superior to another.

[Chris Larner]

Dicky14
Still too many options there.

[spindles69]

Mr Hubbard number one option is the way to go.
Level playing field.Makes it a lot less complicated (and cheaper)having a control tyre.
If there is a vote on this, count me in.

[funkydunkyboogie]

Defo vote option 1 and will make sure I'm at the AGM

As many have said the EoE is not just about be the best driver in the region it's a social event. I know there are many that will disagree but when I go playing with my toy cars ;-) its all about track time and having fun! Coming from a TC back ground ( sorry for swearing!) Saturday practise was always aloud and made for a great social day that was far more relaxed than an actual race day. If the tracks can open can this please considered? With a control tyre in place the argument that those that do attend will be at an advantage is limited if not wiped altogether. This also means there will be more time for socialising with our extended car buddy families and the clubs/tracks can earn a few more pennies on the Saturday charges

Please don't hit me to hard back!!

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by funkydunkyboogie

Coming from a TC back ground ( sorry for swearing!) Saturday practise was always aloud and made for a great social day that was far more relaxed than an actual race day. If the tracks can open can this please considered? With a control tyre in place the argument that those that do attend will be at an advantage is limited if not wiped altogether. This also means there will be more time for socialising with our extended car buddy families and the clubs/tracks can earn a few more pennies on the Saturday charges

Please don't hit me to hard back!!

I'd say Saturday practice would be just about the worse thing that could happen, in fact it would stop me taking part completely.

You say that with a control tyre any advantage of practicing on the track to be used is wiped out altogether, I'd say that say that it's the opposite, as set up will be more important, so those who've sat there all day on a Saturday perfecting their cars, will have a huge advantage over those who weren't there the day before.

Not everyone can afford the time or have the desire for camping, to turn a one day meeting into a two day event, might as well just go and do the Nationals otherwise.

[jcb]

I think a control tire may be the way to go, particularly if there are new tracks on the calendar, but could see it being difficult to police if you are rectricted to say a schumacher yellow and ballistic green, after all the coloured dots don't stay on forever and scrutineering would have to be done before the heat and more strictly in my opinion.

Chosing what tire's to use may also be tricky as there seems a large split between what tires drivers in the region like to use, I know I used schuamchers all year where as Danny seemed to prefer the Dboots tires. Equally you wouldn't want every venue to have different control as I know many racers used the same tires over numerous meetings. It will be an interesting discussion with many good and bad arguements.

As John has said, I think Saturday practice would put a lot of people off, however a two day or couple of two day meetings might be the way to go, but if classes are run on different days I feel there would have to be changes made to the track so any advantage from running on a saturday is reduced.