new amb system

[alteredoggy]

Originally Posted by skiv

Was anyone at RR watching the BBK test with the new system, as a little sceptical of the results presented on the BBK site who obviously have quite a good income stream with part x ptx's if they dont count.

yes , i run race control for rug Racers
Rob had both RC3 and RC4 decoders running
during first round of qualy Rob noted which cars counted (or not) on RC4 decoder (also checking that all cars counted on thr RC3 decoder)
i then helped him visually check the transponder in every car,AMB, Harry, mrt or mrt ptx
to cross check results
i can confirm his results

ps. just to prempt the next question, yes i do know Rob personally, yes i am a beta tester for the bbkrc software, so yes i could be bias

[mark christopher]

Rob has posted on his fb page 63 mrts were in use so all would have not been able to race.


http://rcracechat.com/vb/showthread....989#post442989

[cigbunt]

Originally Posted by Coastal

So I have a PSone and a PS2, do I expect PS3 games to work in them, does anyone
I have a Hobbywing V2.1 ESC and a HW V3 ESC can I run V3 firmware on my V2.1? No because the V3 has more memory in the chip.

Technology moves on and cannot always be backwards compatabile.

your post is totally irrelevant.. the technology are totally different...

remember this is a firmware upgrade!

[adam_u]

One thing I am curious about is the 'technology moving on part'. What is it actually bringing to the party...?

Does the current system count my laps consistently and accurately?

Yes.

No further questions.

[mark christopher]

This is part of the reply from mrt,

" It looks like inaccurate speculation based on the fact that as has been stated we are continuing our research into possible future system designs that would benefit all users of transponders for cars, bikes, boats etc"

[racingdwarf]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

This is part of the reply from mrt,

" It looks like inaccurate speculation based on the fact that as has been stated we are continuing our research into possible future system designs that would benefit all users of transponders for cars, bikes, boats etc"

Errrm, should this be in the other MRT thred?

[Coastal]

Originally Posted by cigbunt

your post is totally irrelevant.. the technology are totally different...

remember this is a firmware upgrade!

Really ?????????
it is a new transponder the pure that can only be counted on the upgraded firmware all previous amb/mylaps can still be counted.
This is what the complaint was about that THE NEW PURCY IS NOT BACKWARD COMPATIBLE

[Coastal]

Originally Posted by adam_u

One thing I am curious about is the 'technology moving on part'. What is it actually bringing to the party...?

Does the current system count my laps consistently and accurately?

Yes.

No further questions.

The technology moving on is the new Pure PT which can have the same number but also can have an additional digit which can denote which car it is.

ie 9768546(1) is your fandango 4WD, 9768546 (2) is your fandango 2WD
9768546 (3) is your superduper TC and so on, so your transponder number remains the same, the software will know exactly which car you are using


Oh and I have no allegiance to mylaps, bbk or MRT

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by racingdwarf

Errrm, should this be in the other MRT thred?

Doh Florida sun for you lol

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Coastal

The technology moving on is the new Pure PT which can have the same number but also can have an additional digit which can denote which car it is.

ie 9768546(1) is your fandango 4WD, 9768546 (2) is your fandango 2WD
9768546 (3) is your superduper TC and so on, so your transponder number remains the same, the software will know exactly which car you are using


Oh and I have no allegiance to mylaps, bbk or MRT

Bugger me that's so clever

I have a mrt pt in all my cars with the same number, and quess what I don't need my pt to tell me which car I'm driving, because I can see it on the track.... Oh and the software will only know if someone tells it what is what.

[mark christopher]

Taken from a friends comment of FB, sums the whole thing up from a clubs point of view

"Yep, it is the Mylaps decoder that has changed, not the BBK software. And it is exactly why we will NOT be upgrading our decoder. Can't go upgrading to something that half the PTs out there won't work with. That's more of a downgrade."

[adam_u]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

Bugger me that's so clever

I have a mrt pt in all my cars with the same number, and quess what I don't need my pt to tell me which car I'm driving, because I can see it on the track.... Oh and the software will only know if someone tells it what is what.

Exactly this, why do I need an extra digit available, so what? Do I need the system to tell me I am accidentally running my Snoring car on an off road circuit, might I bring my model boat to a micro national? Sorry, being a little bit facetious (I don't do boats, touring car or micro ), but what is the point of it? The pinnacle of RC timing technology is adding an extra digit to the transponder number?

I cannot see what it does to enhance the hobby whatsoever - now if they were going to tell me the upgrade will allow tracks to be divided up into sectors to provide split times (something I'm sure is probably already possible) then great, or it has been designed to work with some new affordable personal lap counting device, excellent, but it's none of these and nothing else I can see. I'm not saying lets all stay in 1985 pushing the number keys on a bbc micro to count laps, but change for change's sake? Even if the change was to give the clubs some amazing do-it-all software which makes those running the meetings lives' much easier then I could see the point in that too, but I'm yet to be convinced.

I have 2 MRTs on the same number in my 2 and 4wd - If I had to buy Harrys to replace them then I would, but I wouldn't even want to do that at the moment with the Purcy on the horizon, all a bit confusing right now...

[Northy]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

Bugger me that's so clever

I have a mrt pt in all my cars with the same number, and quess what I don't need my pt to tell me which car I'm driving, because I can see it on the track.... Oh and the software will only know if someone tells it what is what.

If only oOple had a Like button......

[Col]

Originally Posted by Northy

If only oOple had a Like button......

Interestingly (or prehaps not...) I also use another forum that's powered by vBulletin. It DOES have a like button.
Get the boss onto it, G!

[Coastal]

Originally Posted by adam_u

I cannot see what it does to enhance the hobby whatsoever - now if they were going to tell me the upgrade will allow tracks to be divided up into sectors to provide split times (something I'm sure is probably already possible) then great, .

Yep it is already possible to run multiple loops on a track to give split timing but guess what, I am sure you need a seperate decoder for each loop if you could do it through a single decoder it would be fantastic

[Col]

At YORCC (and therefore RHR inc dirt), we have made our decision:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116998

Obviously, the BRCA provide their own timing gear for all sanctioned events, so I guess it's still "up in the air" regarding the F3's next september.
I "think" the oOple race at RHRD uses YORCC timing gear so unless I'm corrected your MRT's will work there as well (but Purcy's won't).

[DaveG28]

So does any tp work with all systems? Will Harry work with anything I'm likely to encounter?

Because purcey's seem a massive waste of time if they are not backward compatible, and clearly someone is trying to kick mrt out of the game for daring to not gouge the customer...sorry, sorry, I mean someone is improving their system massively rendering the competition obsolete, obviously!

[knighthawk]

The 'Harry' will work best on all systems, approx 300% better hit rate re: Rob Nelson's comments on Facebook !

Dave I don't understand your comments, if you invested millions in R&D into a product then a company used your data you produce their own using your system you'd do something about it wouldn't you ?
I take it you have a Black PT and as such hence the comments.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by knighthawk

The 'Harry' will work best on all systems, approx 300% better hit rate re: Rob Nelson's comments on Facebook !

Dave I don't understand your comments, if you invested millions in R&D into a product then a company used your data you produce their own using your system you'd do something about it wouldn't you ?
I take it you have a Black PT and as such hence the comments.

yup you would bring out a system that screws over many model car racers who went for a cost efective, british product with better customer service, that on robs test had 100% hit rate on rc3 for his tested 63 drivers at the event on mrt pt's..... oh and you can order as many as you like to your own personal number (which is mine not amb as i paid for it)
why can current purcy suppliers offer a trade in deal, but not lower thier retail price to those without trade ins?

thank god for clubs like york who have thier members in mind not the pockets of mylaps /amb



Important Notice ref. New Transponders
As many of you will know Mylaps have released a new timing Decoder RC4,
and a new transponder RC4 (nickname Purcy). Anyone considering the purchase of a new RC4 transponder should be aware that it will only work with the RC4 decoder. YORCC have 2 decoders, for the indoor track and the outdoor track at RHR. Both decoders are RC3 models, which could be updated to the latest RC4 firmware if need be. There is a problem however. RC4 decoders can only read AMB/mylaps pts and handouts, Harrys and Purcys. They will not read MRT transponders.
Since a lot club members already have MRT pts, we do not intend updating our decoders in the forseeable future. Therefore if you turn up to a meeting with an RC4 pt you will have to use a club handout !
Details of recent testing of decoders can be found at http://www.bbksoftware.com

[ClydeBuilt]

So.....plenty of 2nd user PT's on the way then LOL