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Old 20-05-2012
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My "Prototype" is exactly what it is.

Im not suggesting an open class, there would be no point. It would end up cheque book racing!

It needs to be one car, one set of electrics be it brushed or brushless.
It will keep the class fair and tight.
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I was considering buying one of these to go and race at ribble in the mardave class

Pete... Are you saying that even if I am not interested in the mardave championship, I still cannot run one of these cars? My main reasob in purchasing one was to run on a wgeel transmitter to get used to a wheel as i run sticks

Seems a bit odd that even if it is not included in the championship, it still cannot be run alingside the mardaves
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Old 21-05-2012
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We run mardaves in the mardaves championship until the members want to change. You can run them on afun night.
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Old 23-05-2012
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Talking Twice the Speed????

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i don't know if you would gain more people opening up the class because a lot of the lads that are running stock might get disheartened when you are twice the speed of them and not every one wants to spend big on 12ths I only run mine because its a good laugh and its a bit to hectic running a quick buggy with 10 in a heat
Why should SS be twice as quick as a 'Dave? It's down to what motors are being used.

Looking at discussions elsewhere there seems to be very little difference with comparable motor/esc systems between 'Daves and SS

Limiting brushless to 1S Lipo - 13.5t or 4 Cell NiMH - G2 motor, it appears to be more to do with car set up and driver style that determines how quick around the track they go.

I agree that there should be some limitations on cost and especially the Motor wind will keep the class competitive.
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You can run them on afun night.
Is it not normally fun?
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Old 23-05-2012
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Yes racing at ribble is always gud fun, I have come along in the last two weeks an beat dobs and Kev. How ever it's cost me two new motors to be on form! I really feel that ribble should allow a brushless class as me, Kev and dobs all have mardave vrx CE' s complete with budget lrp 13.5.
How ever they are sat on a shelf gathering dust, I feel that the next seiries should have a brushed an a 13.5, 1cell class. As said in the last posts it all down to set up and the driver. I would be more than will to race any of my daves' against any of the new schumachers, brushed or brushless !
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Old 24-05-2012
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Smile Quite agree

Quite agree in amendments to the Mardave Class AKA GT12 to include brushless. and the SupaStox car.

It would be reasonable for the competitions to go with the rules/guidelines laid down by the BRCA.

7 Classes of Racing
7.1 GT12.1, using brushed or brushless motors as defined in Construction Rules 2, 3, 4 and 5. Cars may be fitted with additional parts not supplied in the rolling chassis kit (see Rule 6.7 and 6.7.1) including a differential in the rear axle, replacements for other parts and home-made parts.

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7.2 GT12.2 using brushed or brushless motors as defined in Construction Rules 2, 3, 4 and 5. Cars may only be fitted with parts supplied in the rolling chassis kit (see Rule 6.7 and 6.7.1). A rear axle differential is not allowed.


GT12.2 would keep costs down and keep the idea of affordable but competitive racing

It would mean the committee/membership agreeing to the amendments as I understand it.
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I was considering buying one of these to go and race at ribble in the mardave class

Pete... Are you saying that even if I am not interested in the mardave championship, I still cannot run one of these cars? My main reasob in purchasing one was to run on a wgeel transmitter to get used to a wheel as i run sticks

Seems a bit odd that even if it is not included in the championship, it still cannot be run alingside the mardaves
Technically Yes, Because by driving that you may change the outcome of the Mardave championship.

Just buy a dave!
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You can quote all the BRCA rules that are run by clubs all over the country and all the non BRCA rules that other clubs run, but until the committee are asked to look at changes by most of the mardave racers it stays the same.

Off road is split into two classes around the UK/World-2WD and FWD but it was voted in at the AGM to run them together because thats what most of the members wanted (not what the committee wanted) and we have a good turn out every week so that speaks a lot.

On road is different, if you look at all the rules at all the clubs for Mardave, 12ths and 10ths you will find lots and lots of different sets of rules. Thats because the members from these clubs want to run with different motors/cells/tyres.

The risk of running 2 classes is not having enough racers in each week and making people pay lots of money to beat the top lads, as it is now you can bring a standard Mardave and be in the same class/heats as Kev and Dobs.

Over the last two years the club as changed in lots of ways, we are not afraid of change but it has to be what the members want.

Rant over-bad week.

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its does not sound like a rant that pete "Just common sense"
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Yo Pete, Apologies if the discussion invokes you to want to rant, there no need really its only for fun and pleasure at the end of the day.

Not Suggesting running two classes for GT12 (See Below) In fact I preferred the GT12.2 option, Others I have spoken to said RVRCC Mardave section is dominated by a little clique that puts them off ( No offence intended ) so unlikely to want to have fresh competition.

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The risk of running 2 classes is not having enough racers in each week and making people pay lots of money to beat the top lads, as it is now you can bring a standard Mardave and be in the same class/heats as Kev and Dobs.

Over the last two years the club as changed in lots of ways, we are not afraid of change but it has to be what the members want.

Rant over-bad week.

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Yo Pete, Apologies if the discussion invokes you to want to rant, there no need really its only for fun and pleasure at the end of the day.

Not Suggesting running two classes for GT12 (See Below) In fact I preferred the GT12.2 option, Others I have spoken to said RVRCC Mardave section is dominated by a little clique that puts them off ( No offence intended ) so unlikely to want to have fresh competition.

Leo
Pre next championship ask on-road driver ie mardave driver would they prefare a change?

Class 1
Stock - standard mardave motor, 4 cells any chassis mardave or shuccy

Class two
Modified - 13.5 brushless,blinky mode esc, 1 cell lipo any chassis.

Doing this would give the younger drivers/ less experienced driver a better chance at winning the championship, plus would open the door for new people to attend the club,
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I will be running my stock dave tommorowlooking forward to some close racing need to get my final points in for the championship
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