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This is just ridicilous situation. It really isn't realistic to measure battery cases with a scale of 0.1mm. They are made out of thin plastic...

In electric offroad it really isn't anymore about who has most punch and power. So this kind of rules are really unnecessary.
I was a bit shocked,shouldn't think battery makers worry about the case being 0.1mm out after use,just think what the price would go up to if they had to make all lipos with machined precise cases that never change after use. getting this anal over things may not do anyone any favours

grab those calipers off him, and run them over
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the sizes are max size if you didnt have this you would soon moan when they did not fit in cars.
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I don't think .1 or .2 of a mm will stop it fitting in our Cars. i think i'd be pretty annoyed having spent x thousands getting out there only to find i need to spend a couple of hundred more on new batteries which could still be illegal! :/

Feel sorry for the guys who had their batteries nicked on the flight, hope they can get them back
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Feel sorry for the guys who had their batteries nicked on the flight, hope they can get them back
They must of been the legal ones Ian....well done for your A final yesterday
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bigger size = more capacity, we have had this before cars had to be made bigger where bat fits. i have done the job with paul for years at meetings i am sure all the makers that have failed will be told to get there act together.
take the batts back to where they where bought and get your money back, all the makers know what the sizes are,as i said it is a max size they will have to make them smaller.

as racers it is up to us to make sure our equipment is legal, it is in the rules for the races
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Here is a thought without insight in the actual matter:
You can have an approved LiPo cell in its hard case swell ever so slightly that it is not visible to the naked eye or noticeable when carging/discharging but to a precise caliper. I am open to that posibility.

And yes, I assume the organizers have a proper caliper and not some cheap plastic crap.
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bigger size = more capacity, we have had this before cars had to be made bigger where bat fits. i have done the job with paul for years at meetings i am sure all the makers that have failed will be told to get there act together.
take the batts back to where they where bought and get your money back, all the makers know what the sizes are,as i said it is a max size they will have to make them smaller.

as racers it is up to us to make sure our equipment is legal, it is in the rules for the races

Hmm ok I see were you are comming from, so were these batterys smaller when 1st homoligated (errm spelling) so within the limit with ease, then the makers have tried to be a bit sneeky and make them bigger,
Or, are the batterys supplied to be homoligated new, never run in anger,thus when used a few times,poss swelled a little due to heat during rapid discharge. Then tested this accuratly fail as the plastic case has swelled ?

I ask as with thought I did notice this weekend that a brand new battery I used this wekend did feel a very little bit fatter after a couple of runs
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Hmm ok I see were you are comming from, so were these batterys smaller when 1st homoligated (errm spelling) so within the limit with ease, then the makers have tried to be a bit sneeky and make them bigger,
Or, are the batterys supplied to be homoligated new, never run in anger,thus when used a few times,poss swelled a little due to heat during rapid discharge. Then tested this accuratly fail as the plastic case has swelled ?

I ask as with thought I did notice this weekend that a brand new battery I used this wekend did feel a very little bit fatter after a couple of runs
it is only at euros and worlds you have to bother we are alot more easy going at nationals, i know that some manufactures do not do any quality control. one motor company had a arm for a brushed motor that they where told had a 25% chance of being illegal and did nothing about it for 4 years and this with a 2.3mm tolerance.
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Thanks for the Videos Janne, keep them coming dude!
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Third and last video from 2wd practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_lyu28Hgrs

In the end of the video Maifield is searching limits.
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How good is the B4/B4.1, what a design, been around for ever (not sure of the year it came out?) and still going great today!

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racing dwarf you have it right
"then the makers have tried to be a bit sneeky and make them bigger,"
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Round 1 qualifiying

1) Tebo, Jared (12/5:04.865 R1)
2) Cavalieri, Ryan (12/5:06.120 R1)
3) Maifield, Ryan (12/5:06.386 R1)
4) Phend, Dakotah (12/5:06.966 R1)
5) Martin, Lee (12/5:08.312 R1)
6) Matsukura, Naoto (12/5:08.680 R1)
7) Truhe, Mike (12/5:09.007 R1)
8) Enomoto, Keisuke (12/5:09.062 R1)
9) Rheinard, Marc (12/5:09.091 R1)
10) Pinisch, Peter (12/5:09.165 R1)
11) Kinwald, Brian (12/5:09.336 R1)
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Good going Tamiya boys!

On lipo's, I'm doubly frustrated, firstly as no manufacturer/distributor(?) bothered homologating any lower capacity saddle packs (it's been a pain at times to find cells to comfortably fit my car), and secondly then finding that because all the homologated cells are right on the limit, any slight swelling takes them over. I have 2 packs bought especially for the worlds which aren't useable, not sure they can be returned though, as thu can claim small swelling is down to use!?

The bit I don't get at all though is if you check the list some of the sample cells were over 25.1mm, I'd have thought they would have been refused homologation!?
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