saddle lipo chassis

[snige]

hey lads just wondering if this chassis is available to get and wha advantages and disadvantages it has thanks

[mark christopher]

you can only fit saddles in the same orientation as the stick packs

[JohnM]

Take a look at the National photos Mark, Ellis appears to have them side by side.

Guess it brings the weight in closer to the center, cut down on roll.

[ian h]

Originally Posted by snige

hey lads just wondering if this chassis is available to get and wha advantages and disadvantages it has thanks

Looks to me like a modified standard chassis.... Ooh where's the dremel?

[YoungChazz]

Our Team drivers have complete freedom to try anything they like, and they all own Dremels. You U.K. guys are generally not familiar with Brian Kinwald, King Of The Dremel.

All sorts of modifications have been tried on most Team cars, and you never can tell which ones will show up at a National, much less will find its way into production; that is how we stay ahead of the others.

The saddle LiPos side-by-side only works with certain electronics (to keep the speedo in the center) and on certain tracks. For example, the stick actually helps on many loose dirt tracks.

Ellis has long been known as the most innovative of drivers --Dirt and Big E have the utmost respect for each other -- so Ellis is always trying something new. Sometimes you must look closely at his car, other times, as now, it's obvious; but, trust me, the Staffordmobile will be still different at the next round.

It all makes you, the X Factory Family, faster.

[YoungChazz]

Not incidentally, Congratulations Ellis! I did not see the video of the last two mains, but winning the last one by 6 seconds (!) sure put the Stafford stamp on things.

[sparrow.2]

Originally Posted by YoungChazz

Not incidentally, Congratulations Ellis! I did not see the video of the last two mains, but winning the last one by 6 seconds (!) sure put the Stafford stamp on things.

Where's the video???

[Darren Boyle]

And just to confirm what Chazz has already said, the chassis on Ellis car today at EPR was a standad plastic chassis that he had "modified" to accept the saddle LIPO's side by side.

We are "very likely" to be offering the chassis, already machined (so you can run saddles in this format OR continue to run stick across the width) as a tuning part very soon (for those who wish to purchase one already modified) as well as the possability of putting up a detailed guide of how to mod your own chassis on our website (for those who fancy doing it themsleves or not spending any money ..... LOL)

Incidently, Ellis was also using today a new prototype heatsink/fan mount for the motor which worked a treat too, expected to be available very soon also......

[YoungChazz]

Indeed, final C.A.D. on the heatsink/fan mount, ES008, is being sent to the supplier this coming week. Elllis has personally designed this part -- at last we'll use those two holes!

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by sparrow.2

Where's the video???

might be in here
http://www.livestream.com/ttrclive

[YoungChazz]

Part # 1009, Chassis, X - 6 Squared, Saddle LiPo, Plastic, shipping to D.M.S. June 12 to arrive (depending on U.K. customs) around June 23. Retail price on our website $49.99. Shipping June 14 to fine hobby stores all over the world.

These are standard #1006 plastic chassies that have been CNC milled to match Ellis' EPR spec. There are two advantages to this set-up. First, the weight is brought a bit inboard reducing chassis roll in corners. Second, weight is brought a touch forward. I believe Ellis is ballasting this car slightly differently because of that.

Our standard LiPo battery strap, # 1223 which comes with your Kit, will fit and work just fine. If you've got tall packs, the stand=-offs described in our web site tech section will work the same as with a stick.

I assume Ellis and the Boyz will come on here and talk more about and weight or set-up changes as well as advantages and disadvantages. We have not yet tried one on a U.S. dirt ttrack.

Some may say, "It's another expensive hop-up part you've got to buy to run an X Factory car." We reply, "If you want us to stay stagnant and lose, nope, not doing it. And if you want us to develop new stuff and keep it to ourselves so you can't have it..."

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. We give you the very latest and very fastest stuff as quickly as possible. What other company would put a stock of already molded parts into the mill and bring them to you just a week after the race debut?

[PositivoNegativo]

Last year Alberto Cano (Team XFactory Spain) use a similar chassis ... winning the Spanish National

Regards

Gabriel Lopez

[steel]

Anyone know what weight and where was being used

[dreamworld]

i ran the saddle chassis last weekend on a dirt track in holland.
found out that it has les weight on the rear, put about 30 grams onder the lipe wil work, and the balance of the car is way better
won the club race with a ace pace, very slippery track

[YoungChazz]

I just posted this on another forum:

We are releasing the new #1009 buggy chassis. Ellis Stafford designed it and used the original one to win the recent National at E.P.R. with what was clearly the fastest car on the track.

As LiPos have become bigger they of course have become heavier, and a stick LiPo 6000 pack across the back is beginning to put too much weight to the outside of the car. Remember the original X - 6 with its 4 + 2 cell configuration. That + the motor kept the weight centered just in front of the rear wheels.

Ellis wanted to try saddles -- Brian has tried them too -- so Big E did some work with a Dremel to make them fit securely with the standard battery strap. Ellis uses one of the new smaller E.S.C.s, and he got that to fit in front of the pack.

#1009 exactly duplicates Ellis' work -- your chassis will be just like his. We start with a #1006 plastic X - 6 Squared chassis, C.N.C. machine it according to Ellis' C.A.D. and, presto!, a #1009. If you have a larger E.S.C. you can do about 60 seconds of Dremel work and still fit your speedo between the servo and battery.

Retail price $49.99 is still less than a standard graphite chassis. Shipped to fine hobby stores all over the world today, the fastest way to get one is through your LHS. On our web store now. D.M.S.' shipment went out last Friday, and should be in U.K. stores early next week.

Check out the story and pix on RedRC: http://www.redrc.net/2010/06/x-facto...is/#more-32744

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by YoungChazz

with what was clearly the fastest car on the track.

Is that why there was a Scumacher Cougar SV on pole then?

[Darren Boyle]

I think you will find Chazz is referring to the lap times in the finals when the guys finally got to race each other rather than the clock......

[Big E]

Originally Posted by JohnM

Is that why there was a Scumacher Cougar SV on pole then?

That was on purpose as I don't seem to be able to win from pole any more

[YoungChazz]

Watching Big E push first Grant then Tom around the track until he finally got clear in A - 1 was a treat. In A-3 Ellis got clear on lap 2 and motored serenely off into the sunset. A 6-sec win in a National A final is clearly faster.

[ttboyy2k]

Will we see a stick pack x-6 down the centerline like the Cougar Sv has in the near future? At least on paper the cougar sv's layout looks like it would result in the fastest lap times over any other manufactures chassis layouts.