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Clubman Class ESC List
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Don't see why not.
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It would certainly make things clearer
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It makes life a lot easier knowing there is no timing on an ESC just by looking at the LEDs.
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Just spent the last hour trying to change settings on my Hobbeywing esc with the program box to set it in "blinky" mode with no luck....finally the penny has dropped that I need to download the HW/speed passion 508 software....is this easy to do?
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Yes,Where are you located?
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Hi Lads,
Totally agree, I think it's a good idea. The likes of a Cirtix Stock Club makes things very simple, no timing settings & not programable. Once you have an ESC that has the ability to make changes things start getting complicated!! Is it going too far to specify a certain model of 10.5 motor? This would focus the clubman championship on driving ability only, which is the way it should be. |
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There are also no Nosram speedos (it would be handy if there was a table somewhere showing what their LRP twins are). No Fusion Exceed sets (they'd be clubman legal) either. I'd see no harm in allowing any ESC as long as there's no sensor wire, which would cover folks with RTR kits.
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I see no distinction between adjusting static timing in the esc or motor. The end result is the same - the absolute kv of the motor increases, and efficiency goes down. I presume some torque is lost, but the differences would be no more than gearing up or down a bit - as in gearing, the effect is constant throughout the rpm range. It's only really a problem in classes with restricted gearing options, like Minis. Dynamic timing is a whole other matter, giving mod performance with a stock motor, and puts a premium on escs and their firmware - an arms race, as there is in touring cars.
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That rules Alan and me out so as the esc we use are too old and not on the list ?????
EZRUN-60-A-SL Sphere comp 80700 No blinky modes on either. |
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Ivan your speedo is not listed because of the fact it is so old. There is no boost feature so no reason to list it. The list is approved esc whos boost setup can be turned off and set to run to the stock brca rules. I dont believe it rules out older speedos as they dont have boost availible and hence cant run a blinky mode as it not there to turn off.
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I was thinking about this, and i reckon, yes its nice to be able to tell if a speedo has no timing advance or boosts, but as long as a driver has some method of showing this thats all thats important (using laptops, showing the user manual, showing the blinky LEDs, what ever) Already the DMCC rules and the RCCAOI rules show that for a competition the Battery and Motor should be EFRA/BRCA approved. I think we should keep it that way. Going down the road of forcing people to use particular ESCs could be forcing people with old or HK type escs to go out and buy new ones with money they havent got. This may particulary effect new racers, and with the small following we have here in ireland, we dont want to be scaring anyone off. Lets keep the current clubman class as is.. 10.5 and no ESC timing or boost |
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I agree. Leave it as it is. Clubman 10.5 and now further advancement on the esc whatever
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It was only a suggestion to guage peoples opinion, there is no rule that says we have to go with it. I was partly thinking of the BRCA Regional series that is taking place in the North this year. Any driver from the south wishing to compete would have to make sure that their ESC was on the list.There is nothing to stop the RCCAOI adding to this list ad infinitum. I agree that the rule works fine as it is, but I also agree with Ivan when he says that the gap between the newcomer in Clubman Class and the more experienced drivers is becoming bigger and bigger. For that reason, I would suggest that any driver winning a club championship in Clubman Class should automatically move up to modified the following season. This is just my opinion, so feel free to shoot me....
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Hi Dave,
I'm loading the bullets into the gun A few of us were discussing this the other night in the Naul. It should be possible to classify (I think this is done already) drivers, F1,2,3,4 etc. You could have a clubman race with some F4 & F5 drivers, the first F5 driver over the line wins their race, they could be 4th or 5th overall in the race but still win their class, a race within a race type of thing. This would not add any extra complication to a race event, same amount of heats & races etc. but producing the results would be slightly different. Some of us feel that if we were to move to the modified class now it might put some people off racing. I appreciate there are some of us in the clubman class who are not beginners and we should not be running with the less experienced or leisurely racers. We could have: 1. Cubman class 2. Clubman class 3. Modified class Discuss . . . . . . . |
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That list is just for 1/12th scale. The 1/10th doesnt have a list of blinky escs, as the BRCA races are just modified, no clubman. Check out the thread on the northern ireland section, that question was asked there about a possible clubman class. Now i could be wrong... but thats the way it looks to me (im easily confused) I was also thinking about the Intermediate class thing... Originally I was all up for it, but im not so sure. Really there is only a few Clubman drivers that would want to be in this class, I cant imagine many guys currently running modified dropping back to the intermediate class (could be wrong). But as it stands we have an A, B C.... final, the slower drivers should be in the lower finals and the faster drivers in the higher finals, So if there are slower drivers in the A final, well that means we dont really have the numbers to make an intermediate class. BUT, I really do think we should do what we did at the winter race, with the 3 min practice round to put similar paced people into the same qualifying rounds. This doesnt need to be done for club days, just for competition days. If we do this, we keep people of the similar ability in the same races for the whole day, which i think is all we need to do. Lee |
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