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Right, had a look through the setup sections and there seems very few people running on dirt tracks, we now have a dirt track at our club, and starting to look for setups, our track is very loose and low grip, ran the loose loam setup from the TLR site..it was pants, and I have seen a couple of posts that have said the same. so there must be other people in the world that run 22's on dirt, have you found some good setups?????care to share

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go to www.rctech.net and ask in the 22 section under electric on road, the TLR guys will help you our (Matt Chambers, Frank Root etc) among everyone else, most people run theres on dirt on that forum.
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Right, had a look through the setup sections and there seems very few people running on dirt tracks, we now have a dirt track at our club, and starting to look for setups, our track is very loose and low grip, ran the loose loam setup from the TLR site..it was pants, and I have seen a couple of posts that have said the same. so there must be other people in the world that run 22's on dirt, have you found some good setups?????care to share

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Try Otto Ausfelts setup from the Petit site, it is very good on loose tracks. I am running on a slippery indoor clay track now, and testing new things all the time. The 22 is fast on it, it just always feels "floaty" and loose, and I'm trying to make it feel more safe. I'll try to post some of my experimenting here now and then;-)
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Old 18-10-2011
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hello!
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in this set up of otto ausfelt 2011 Swedish cup Trelleborg

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/losi/se...109/index.html

wha is in front suspension

shock limiter 1 mm + internal spring. 1,5 compressed???????

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hello!
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in this set up of otto ausfelt 2011 Swedish cup Trelleborg

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/losi/se...109/index.html

wha is in front suspension

shock limiter 1 mm + internal spring. 1,5 compressed???????

thanks

I have no clue, so I built the shocks stock. I would guess it's a short spring from a ballpoint pen or something, but I'll ask Otto for an explanation!
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I also felt the car to be a bit floaty as you say. I tried everything untill I changed to Dustins Reedy setup and got rid of it. The biggest differense was the shorter rear link. It made it a lot better and easier to drive. Give it a try and see what you think.
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I also felt the car to be a bit floaty as you say. I tried everything untill I changed to Dustins Reedy setup and got rid of it. The biggest differense was the shorter rear link. It made it a lot better and easier to drive. Give it a try and see what you think.
I run the rear link as per the worlds setup, in the 1-D hole, really liked that more than the B. It's still slippy, but that's mainly the track.
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Great replys, all seem to say the same as I am finding a bit loose/floaty. I find the back end of the car looses traction exiting the corner very suddenly, no matter how gentle you are and how soft you have the ESC etc set up
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Add rear toe in and anti squat to plant the back.
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Add rear toe in and anti squat to plant the back.
Yep running that at the min but 1deg anti squat tried more, didn't work for me
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Add rear toe in and anti squat to plant the back.
actually, that didn't work for me. Adding toe makes it wander round more, and in turns you have two wheels working hard against eachother, making it feel unstable. I went down to three degree toe as per the worlds setup, that felt a lot smoother. It just seemed to calm the rear end down, so even though it was loose, it didn't feel that much out of control.

I have read that Matt Chambers have started running 3 degrees of antisquat in stead of 2.5, I'll try that tomorrow. It will lower my off power traction though, in theory, so I'll have to see...

The explanation from Otto is that the spring gives you a warning about when you should stop pushing. I'll have to try it out
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The explanation from Otto is that the spring gives you a warning about when you should stop pushing. I'll have to try it out
Oh YEAH!! run 1-2mm limiter or put 3mm and inside hole on front wishbone just to try it...

white springs in the rear.. and motor as far forward as possible..

my car was perfect when grips was low.. but for highgrip it was abit twitchy.

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no way.. i would say the opposite.. 3degree and as litte antisquat as possible.
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no way.. i would say the opposite.. 3degree and as litte antisquat as possible.
That's pretty much dead-azz opposite to what the TLR team drivers over in the States have said.
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Oh YEAH!! run 1-2mm limiter or put 3mm and inside hole on front wishbone just to try it...

white springs in the rear.. and motor as far forward as possible..

my car was perfect when grips was low.. but for highgrip it was abit twitchy.

still the best 2wd ever
So, yesterday I built my shocks with cut bladders, 55 pistons, 27.5 wt up front, 25 rear, and an internal spring in the front shocks. I used the front springs off a Micro Highroller that I cut in half. The wire is 0.25mm, and they were 1.5mm tall when compressed, about 3.5mm free.

Since this is quite far off the other shocks I've ran with bladders, 56 piston and 20 wt rear, I can't really tell if the springs made the difference, but the car was dialled
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Would the springs from the xx4 do the trick? Think I have some of them in my box somewhere.. And what effect does cutting the bladders have?

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Would the springs from the xx4 do the trick? Think I have some of them in my box somewhere.. And what effect does cutting the bladders have?

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Never seen them, but probably:P The car felt really good, but if it was because of the springs, I don't know. I'm gonna build an identical set of shocks without them and test.

Also the los-b1600 spring kit gives you more options

Cutting the bladders gives you less to no rebound effect, and the car feels more "dead" and calm on landings.
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Do you remove the bladders or just slice a hole in them? I am not entirely sure about doing this as I will have to put my hand in my pocket if I need to replace them!

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Pugboy check this out,

http://losiracing.blogspot.com/2011/...hock-tips.html
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Do you remove the bladders or just slice a hole in them? I am not entirely sure about doing this as I will have to put my hand in my pocket if I need to replace them!

Just cut them out, using scissors, leaving yourself with just o-rings that are at the top of the bladders. If you're worried, the bladders are inexpensive. If it's that much of a reach putting your "hand in your pocket" perhaps you should find a new hobby.
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