Kyosho RB6 thread

[Shimmy]

What springs are people using?

Just having a look around, the AE springs look to be decent value.
I'd love to stick with the K brand stuff but at $22 a pair vs $25 a set, it's a bit hard to justify.

The Losi one's looked alright too.

Schumacher looks like they have a smaller spring cup and is more expensive (but still cheaper than Kyosho).

Not a fan of Durango quality but their springs should be alright.

Then theres the Avid's.

[bigred5765]

we have always ran losi

[Shimmy]

Cool, the "low frequency" sets?

Just had a look on a couple of spring charts, the losi's hardest is about the kyosho's softest.

So in the real world are the Kyosho's all hard springs?

[bigred5765]

that's not right shimmy in fact theres very little between them, what made you think that losi hardest was kyosho's softest?
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/765/3tgf.jpg

[Shimmy]

Oh ok,

I was going by http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...Bore/Chart.pdf

The rears are slightly heavier but the fronts seem a quite a bit heavier.

Comparing to the numbers on the Amain website of the spring sets.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ing-Set-4-pair
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ing-Set-5-pair

But then Losi claim .05 lbs difference between their springs, and the chart you posted suggests much larger differences.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111137

[bigred5765]

the last list you posted is a link to is small bore
and yes losi springs are 0.5lb or less between and your mixing up fronts and rears heres the list for bb shocks

[rc boy]

The ones on A main hobbies arnt the standard big bore springs they are the low frequency set brought out to get softer springs if i remember correctly

[Shimmy]

Originally Posted by rc boy

The ones on A main hobbies arnt the standard big bore springs they are the low frequency set brought out to get softer springs if i remember correctly

Ah, ok.
So any other hobbyshop have the normal ones?

Also, I have got my RB6 now and just got home from racing it.
I must say I am quite happy with it.
Was way undergeared (31/76 in 17.5 blinky, have 66t on the way) but was keen to get it out on the track.
Felt very consistent and easy to manage and I didn't even fiddle with anything (same setup as the person I bought it off had on it).

Also, whats with the plastic shim bit that goes between the pivot block and chassis? (front).
And the clip that goes around the outdrive after the gearbox has been assembled?

[adam_u]

The plastic shim is a roll centre adjustment I think, and the white clip is a cover to stop any crap going into the thrust race.

To adjust diff all you need to do is pop that little cover off (just rotate it round don't remove completely) then stick a slim pokey device of your choosing through the hole and diff screw and turn the opposite wheel to your liking

[rc boy]

Originally Posted by Shimmy

Ah, ok.
So any other hobbyshop have the normal ones ?

I would assume so just ask at the shop for std bigbore springs or just look at the spring weights online

Cheers matty

[Shimmy]

Cool, thanks fellas.

So the plastic shim would have a similar effect to raising the inner ball stud (I'm assuming slightly different as the angle of the arms would be different, not just the camber link)?

Awesome, thats a nice way to adjust the diff, no more poping a ball cup and getting in there with a screw driver.
Mine doesn't have the clip in place though.
I'm assuming most probably run without them anyway, can imagine it could be a pain to get on and off.


Hmm, I had a look on a couple of other sites, could not find any other Losi 22 springs, only the low frequency ones.

Does anyone run the Avid ones?
Look good and being bare steel is kinda good (no coating to change their rates etc...) but seems their steps between springs are quite large.

[rc boy]

http://www.jemodels.com/electric-mod...tegory_id=1340

If you go half way down the springs are all there that you need with rates

[Shimmy]

Hey fellas, couple more questions...

My RB6 has a lot of play in the arms so I'm swapping them over for the new spares that came with it.

But I noticed that the spare front arms are shorter than what was originally on it.
Hate to bring the topic up again but are the RB6 fronts longer or shorter?

Is it a wise idea to use alluminium spacers with the alluminium hubs?


Edit:
I ended up drilling a small hole in each rear arm, to put a grub screw in to hold the hinge pin (as the new arms didn't make much difference), mainly out of curiosity.
One side seemed a little better but the other didnt really change at all.
I'm assuming the slop is in the hangers, not the arms.
I'll have to get the Exotec hangers soon.

[Neil Skull]

Wishbone choice is big! often people use some old ones from RB5 or even Lazer simply as that's what they had in the box as a spare.

To Make it easy keep to the standard arms for the RB6 they work very well, We have new Aluminium Hangers in stock now and all the big shops should have by now!

This is a list of all the new options parts that just arrived.
K.UMW704-0REAR HUB CARRIER V2 RB5/RB6/ZX5/RT/SC (0) ALU-GUN METAL
K.UMW704-02REAR ALU HUB CARRIER BEARING COLLAR SET
K.UMW704-05REAR HUB CARRIER V2 RB5/RB6/ZX5/RT/SC (0.5) ALU-GUN METAL
K.UMW705SUSPENSION HOLDER RB6 (RF) ALUMINIUM - GUN METAL
K.UMW705-01SUSPENSION BUSH SET FOR UMW705
K.UMW706SUSPENSION HOLDER RB6 (RR-RWD) ALUMINIUM - GUN METAL
K.UMW707SUSPENSION HOLDER RB6 (RR-MID) ALUMINIUM - GUN METAL
K.UMW708REAR STABILIZER SET RB6 (MID)
K.UMW708-01STABILIZER LINK SET RB6 MID (UMW708)
K.UMW708-02P.O.M FLANGE BALL 5.8MM (4)
K.UMW708-11ANTI-ROLL BAR (1.1) RB6 MID - PINK
K.UMW708-12ANTI-ROLL BAR (1.2) RB6 MID - RED
K.UMW708-13ANTI-ROLL BAR (1.3) RB6 MID - ORANGE
K.UMW708-14ANTI-ROLL BAR (1.4) RB6 MID - YELLOW

[Neil Skull]

Coming soon the Chassis protector Sheets.
UMW709 Price TBC! we guess approx. £11-£16

[Shimmy]

How much slop do these usually have?
Trying to figure out if mine is worn but cant see it or if they usually have a bit of slop.

[Kurtje]

Hello

I've got a question about the electronics for the RB6 buggy.
Does the Speed Passion Reventon Pro fits when it's build mid motor and used with saddles? The esc comes just in front of the motor.

The most setups I see is with the R10 Pro from Orion just in front of the motor.

Do you need to use a fan on these ESC on the RB6? Because from what I see there is very little space...

[paulj]

Originally Posted by Kurtje

Hello

I've got a question about the electronics for the RB6 buggy.
Does the Speed Passion Reventon Pro fits when it's build mid motor and used with saddles? The esc comes just in front of the motor.

The most setups I see is with the R10 Pro from Orion just in front of the motor.

Do you need to use a fan on these ESC on the RB6? Because from what I see there is very little space...

I can't tell you for sure about the fit of the Reventon Pro in the RB6 with saddles as I've never used saddles in my own RB6 - shorty LiPo all the way for me.

The footprint of the R10 and Reventon are very close so it 'should' fit but may need a little work with a dremel.

As for a fan I've seen people have thermal cut out problems on high grip tracks with 7.5T and lower motors in 2wd as with anything the smoother you are the more chance you have of not needing the fan. What surface are you racing on?

[Kurtje]

Mistake

[Andywoods]

I use a reventon pro in my rb6 it fits ok with saddles in the fwd position