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Well, it was a little strange, but a good result.

Excellent bit of rain!
Shame it was stopped though, would have been nice to see it finish properly.


How good is it not have a single ferrari or mclaren in the top 10 in the points though!!

A great start to the season continues.

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How good is it not have a single ferrari or mclaren in the top 10 in the points though!!




Apart from Lewis that is!
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He's not in the top 10 overall which is what Terry means I think.
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I hope Brawn get their new gearbox sorted ASAP, the Honda one isn't working well on the Merc engine.
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Yeah, Rubens really seemed to struggle most of the weekend with it...
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yeah sounded like button clutch was slipping coming out of the pits one time
great car, did OK in wet to say they have had no wet practice time
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How good were those RedBulls in the wet though!!

Amazing!!
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Be interesting to see the results from tomorrows FIA meeting.
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is that the diffuser issue? I thought cars had to be submitted to the FIA for scrutineering before the season, then any major updates done the same way.
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yeah and, from what I know, the cars passed scrutineering but other teams have appealed against it thinking that its unfair because they didn't think of the idea
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yeah for brawn toyota and redbull for there under foil thing
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It's quite funny really with all the big professional teams kicking up a fuss because they didn't think of that idea

good race though
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He's not in the top 10 overall which is what Terry means I think.
yes he is, joint 10th with bourdais


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1 Jenson Button 15,
2 Rubens Barrichello 10,
3 Jarno Trulli 8.5,
4 Timo Glock 8,
5 Nick Heidfeld 4 ,
5 Fernando Alonso 4
7 Nico Rosberg 3.5
8 Sebastien Buemi 2
9 Mark Webber 1.5
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10 Sebastien Bourdais 1
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yeah and, from what I know, the cars passed scrutineering but other teams have appealed against it thinking that its unfair because they didn't think of the idea
I know for a fact that Renault asked the FIA months ago if they could do it, and got told they couldn't. It would appear that not every team had the same answer to the same question, which is one good reason to protest...
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I know for a fact that Renault asked the FIA months ago if they could do it, and got told they couldn't. It would appear that not every team had the same answer to the same question, which is one good reason to protest...
That's the FIA's fault though, not the other teams!
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but if the FIA have approved it, then surely they can't just revoke it, as the diffuser section is quite a complex peice of engineering.....

Once again, the FIA show their incompetence?
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That's the FIA's fault though, not the other teams!
As far as I'm aware they're complaining against the FIA and not the teams.

As I said in another thread, it's all the FIA's fault, they shouldn't have left such a loophole in the rules and once identified should have amended the rules to allow or ban the diffusers.

As things stands, there are 6 teams which need to redesign 3/4 of their car in order to make full use of the diffuser, and that costs a lot of money. At a time where the FIA are suposedly reducing the spendings of all the teams, whichever teams will have to change their design to comply with the rules or to be competitive (depending on what is being decided) have every right not to be happy about that...
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Well Flavio says they asked if they could do it, but nobody knows if they asked the right question!!! Could mean the same but so badly phrased that the FIA thought the Renault way is not within the regulations. the other teams were just to arrogant a year ago ( http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/...ear-consience/ ). I hope they pay for it, meaning the double / triple diffusers of Brawn / Toyota / Williams remain legal. The FIA hearing will be on the 14th! ...next tuesday. It`s very nice to see this new world order in F1, it`s also nice to see drivers on the podium that actually seem to be happy about it and also seem to like eachother. Aslo drivers who actually have to say something interesting in the press conference!!!

Sepang GP was a excellent race up until the red flag I think. Only Button showing the real potential of his car and himself right before his first pitstop scares me a bit. 1 sec fester than the first non-Brawn car in race spec. Hope Williams, Toyota and Renault catch up! My dream worl championship fight going into the last race would be Button/Alonso/Trulli.
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As things stands, there are 6 teams which need to redesign 3/4 of their car in order to make full use of the diffuser, and that costs a lot of money. At a time where the FIA are suposedly reducing the spendings of all the teams, whichever teams will have to change their design to comply with the rules or to be competitive (depending on what is being decided) have every right not to be happy about that...
Well I have to disagree! Windtunnel / CFD development is limited, so it makes no difference money wise if you develop a new diffuser or the 100th version of a rear wing. They always us 100% of their resources, so the cost argument is just crap. Anyway just bolting the new floor on will not do it! The whole concept of the car has to be changed as people with knowledge have said. Don`t believe the stupid things Briatore / Horner / Dr. Marko have to say about it......
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Well I have to disagree! Windtunnel / CFD development is limited, so it makes no difference money wise if you develop a new diffuser or the 100th version of a rear wing. They always us 100% of their resources, so the cost argument is just crap. Anyway just bolting the new floor on will not do it! The whole concept of the car has to be changed as people with knowledge have said. Don`t believe the stupid things Briatore / Horner / Dr. Marko have to say about it......
Why you disagree, you just said exactly the same as me, in different wording.

There is a difference in cost if you make 10 Wings or if you make a New Car... And in the meantime you're not optimising your package, which is what the other teams are doing. You might as well throw the season away and start working on next year's car...
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