Team Orion Vortex R10 ESC Questions - Page 2

Nickwillyhams · #21 10-09-2014

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Originally Posted by Neil Skull

Hi,
Just install the right mod software and the ESC should be fine.
The stock software has mega timing built in and should not be used with modified motors unless you know 100% what you are doing.

I've already installed the mod firmware mate, the latest from the orion website. It's a 6.5t speedpassion motor I'm running if that helps. Any other settings I should check?

Neil Skull · #22 11-09-2014

If you have the correct Mod software installed, then make sure all settings are set to default, and try again.
Just be aware that if you borrow a DSB and it has different firmware to your ESC it can also be a problem.

Also make sure you use a Team Orion sensor lead as there are some querks out there, the temp pin on the orion is different to some, This normally shows up when it wont communicate to the DSB.

Nickwillyhams · #23 11-09-2014

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Originally Posted by Neil Skull

If you have the correct Mod software installed, then make sure all settings are set to default, and try again.
Just be aware that if you borrow a DSB and it has different firmware to your ESC it can also be a problem.

Also make sure you use a Team Orion sensor lead as there are some querks out there, the temp pin on the orion is different to some, This normally shows up when it wont communicate to the DSB.

Cheers Neil,
It's a brand new dsb. I updated this first, then updated to the latest mod firmware on the esc. Everything is at default in the settings. The sensor lead I'm using is the one I updated with so I'm assuming this is ok. Think I may need to change the motor (speedpassion) at least to rule it out as a/the problem

bomber · #24 11-09-2014

if its a speedpassion with the push on connectors that could well be your problem they wobble around they caused me all sorts of strange problems.

Nickwillyhams · #25 11-09-2014

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Originally Posted by bomber

if its a speedpassion with the push on connectors that could well be your problem they wobble around they caused me all sorts of strange problems.

It is yeah, 6.5t v3.0 and it does have push on connectors, they all feel like a tight fit?

bomber · #26 11-09-2014

Should be ok if there tight, they shouldn't be easy to pull off, I ended up soldering the connectors on and it cured the problems, try another motor just to eliminate that.

Nickwillyhams · #27 11-09-2014

Will do, just need get hold of one, do you think 6.5t is a bit overkill for small indoor tracks? Maybe why its getting so hot?

bomber · #28 12-09-2014

it really depends on the your level of driving and the track, if your making alot of mistakes then yes its probably too much, how long is the straight?

Nickwillyhams · #29 12-09-2014

I'd say 20 maybe 25 meters

Nickwillyhams · #30 12-09-2014

I've had the DSB back on the esc tonight, checked the firmware is correct, it is. Turned boost and turbo to 0 and drag brake off, everything else is stock. All soldered joints are perfect. Checked the sensor wire is connected both ends and also checked the posts on the speed passion motor, all is fine, no movement etc. I put some fresh heat shrink over the female plugs to ensure nothing is touching the end bell. Refit the motor after checking the drivetrain, which is nice and free and made sure the meshing is good. Recalibated the esc to radio system with all end points at 100%. I then put some old wheels on an popped in some charged saddles and took it over the road in the cul de sac, ran great, nice and smooth throttle control, but 5-6mins in, flashing green led, motor and esc were warm but definatly not hot, I'm truly stumped now just don't know what do with the thing

Rich D · #31 12-09-2014

Either compatibility issue or a fault with the speedo IMO.

Does it still error with the overheat disabled ?

You`re going to need to try another motor to discover which it is.

Be interesting to try another SP first as its just a plug in job and you`ll not have to alter your wiring. You`ll then know instantly whether your own motor is ok. It would point towards a compatibility issue or the speedo at fault if you get a repeat of the error. Id try a different brand of motor as the second step to confirm which.

Sounds like you have done everything anyone else would have done so far anyway, its just a process of elimination.

Nickwillyhams · #32 13-09-2014

I'm thinking maybe under geared now? Gonna try a bigger pinion tomorrow!

discostu · #33 13-09-2014

Are you Batteries any good

Nickwillyhams · #34 13-09-2014

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Originally Posted by discostu

Are you Batteries any good

Yeah brand new

Nickwillyhams · #35 13-09-2014

Ran it just with a 22t pinion. Set the countdown timer to 5mins. I was being moderate/hard on throttle and brakes a few full throttle bursts. Nothing �� no thermal. I reset the timer and went again straight away and it went for another 2.5mins so 7.5mins this time which is twice as long as it had been running with the 19t pinion. Il give it a go with a 23t tomorrow see how it goes. Thoughts?

badger5 · #36 13-09-2014

I'm not sure why but I've seen it mentioned several that if you're under geared the speedo gets hot and over geared the motor gets hot.
Maybe the speedo was hot on the inside but with the alloy case and fan most of this heat was dissipated so it still felt only warm to touch.
When ever in run a speedo/motor combo from different manufacturers I always disable the motor overheat protection though as this protection only really works when both are the same make.