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http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20.../CAT%20L1.html





DescriptionPart NoPrice Including 20% UK VAT.Quantity CAT L1 - KitK176£479.99
CAT L1 Specification Equipment Needed
  • 2 Channel Radio
  • Motor
  • Servo
  • Electric Speed Control
  • Tyres
  • Long Boss Motor Pinion
  • 2s Shorty or Saddle Lipo
  • Paint for Bodyshell

Power Source: ELECTRIC Model Type: 4WD, OFF-ROAD, COMPETITION Length: 375mm Wheelbase: 280-286mm Width: 250mm Top Speed: 40 MPH+ Features
Transmission
  • Alloy chassis side stiffeners.
  • 3 Gear transmission for opposite motor rotation, improves agility and steering on high traction surfaces.
  • Lightweight layshaft and side gears.
  • Small, low rotating mass gear differentials. With 3 position height adjustment, to adjust for driveshaft plunge and mixed track conditions.
  • Durable polyurethane drivebelts.
  • FAB (Front Adjustable Brake System) with larger 22 tooth pulleys included.
  • Low CofG pinned and centre mounted motor mount.
  • Alloy front transmission housings with steering mounting for increased rigidity.
  • Alloy upper front housings with lower CofG.
  • Alloy rear lower transmission housings with improved belt tensioner.
  • Lighter alloy rear upper housings for low CofG.
  • Lightweight, twin pad slipper clutch with Ultra Fine adjustment spring.
  • Strong steel universal driveshafts with 5mm axles.
  • Hard anodised 12mm wheel hex.
  • Larger 5x11x4 layshaft and pulley bearings increase durability and precision.
  • Optional ball diff available.
  • Includes 33 super precision ball bearings.
Chassis
  • Hard anodised 2mm 7075-T6 alloy chassis with 4mm carbon stiffeners.
  • Vertical top decks for increased linear flex.
  • Alloy floating servo mount pinned into the chassis.
  • Adjustable shorty locating system. Enables ultra precise fitment.
  • Multiple Ackerman position alloy centre track rod.
  • Shorty and saddle LiPo compatible.
  • Cable management system for neater wire installs.
  • Lightweight battery posts.
  • Lower, smaller front bumper - housing front roll bar and suspension.
  • Front wing mount.
  • Aerox Body and Schumacher wing.
  • Battery thumb screws.
Suspension
  • Wishbones with new improved geometry.
  • Geometry steering yokes.
  • Rear hub carrier. Featuring new vari-length wishbone and hub geometry.
  • Hub Carriers.
  • Stronger 3.5mm diameter front inboard pins.
  • Front pivot strap inserts for front track width adjustment. And new 8°, 10°, 12° front rake adjustment.
  • Anti Roll bars included with centralising collar.
  • Strong, rigid 4mm carbon fibre shock brackets.
  • Lightweight front shock tower cover to protect your car and the track from damage.
  • Front wheelbase adjustment for improved tuning.
Shocks
  • Big bore shocks with big bore “CORE” springs, titanium nitride shafts, twin o-ring sealing, optimised shock body.
  • Ball mounted two piece shock cap for easier building, maintenance, vented option and lighter weight.
  • Threaded spring collars for better location.
  • Super lightweight design.
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Looks like a very nice car, but ouch on the RRP!
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With the beefed up wishbone I had hoped for more reinforcement elsewhere, to be honest. And nearly 500 quid... Does that include free replacement parts & tires or something?
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With the beefed up wishbone I had hoped for more reinforcement elsewhere, to be honest. And nearly 500 quid... Does that include free replacement parts & tires or something?
Especially when the world champ winning yoke can be had for £20 less
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Especially when the world champ winning yoke can be had for £20 less
Thats the RRP... the RRP on the world champ winning yoke is £509.99.

Most shops selling both kits for £50 less than RRP therefore the world champ winning yoke is still, er, more.

Both are still way more than I'm prepared to pay for a toy car tho!
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Thats the RRP... the RRP on the world champ winning yoke is £509.99.

Most shops selling both kits for £50 less than RRP therefore the world champ winning yoke is still, er, more.

Both are still way more than I'm prepared to pay for a toy car tho!
Same here

Looking at those pictures of the L1 I reckon they are CAD drawings not pictures of the real car
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see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qule-DbT4
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To be fair, the K2 was 380 rrp, the new cat has the alloy gear box tops included which were a £30 option for each, so if you can get the new kit for £440 it’s the same price as the K2, I’m fine with that tbh oh and the inclusion of the roll bar kits which were £13 each
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To be fair, the K2 was 380 rrp, the new cat has the alloy gear box tops included which were a £30 option for each, so if you can get the new kit for £440 it’s the same price as the K2, I’m fine with that tbh oh and the inclusion of the roll bar kits which were £13 each
Surely a cheaper car with upgrade available means club racers are more likely buy the cheaper option and upgrade if required

£430 for it at mbmodels

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For clay/outdoors an undertray would be desirable ...
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Looks a very nice buggy
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After a long time Schumacher changed front and rear arms of their buggies...
I hope new one are harder........
I’m going to try in my cat k2
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Like the look of the car but I can see that you may need to get the optional alloy castor blocks for the front and also the need for long boss pinions which would suggest that none of mine would be able to fit due to location of the motor.
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it comes with alloy gear box tops, anti roll/sway bars, FAB, alloy steering rack in the kit.
its something like 95% new and i doubt the arms will fit the k2. most of the team ran the 10 degree kit caster blocks on the k2, 10 are on this after lots of testing.
if you watch the the live feed on facebook, its had some high speed impact testing done .

ill be upgrading without a thought!
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Based on the exploded diagram, the rear arms may fit. However, according to the website, it looks like the front arm inner hinge pins have a different diameter than the K2 version.
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So what are the pros and cons of belts over shaft driven 4wds?
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So what are the pros and cons of belts over shaft driven 4wds?
I think, Belts accelerate faster, the motor is in the correct direction to generate grip, also in the correct direction for faster corner speed.
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Like the look of the car but I can see that you may need to get the optional alloy castor blocks for the front and also the need for long boss pinions which would suggest that none of mine would be able to fit due to location of the motor.
At the Pictures of Orlowsky's L1 at the EOS from last Weekend, it looks like, he was using standard pinion, so may it is not naccesary to run long boss pinions ony!?

enclose is the link to RedRc Gallery:
http://eos.redrc.net/gallery/3/?envi...ery-wrap-21146

PS.: i was there on saturday to watch the races, the Cat L1 was looking even more incredible in nature.
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Short boss do fit, long boss are more secure
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