Setups

[J_WOODY]

thanks Lee, thats a big help

[Kopite]

can anyone tell me whether they've tried the following on the X6/X6sq (with how they found it went too)...

25 degree castor blocks
inline axles

[Mike Hudson]

25deg blocks come standard, I ran alloy versions of them on the X6 all last year and they suited most places for me, I tried the inline axles which gave me more aggressive steering but less straight line stability and found the car easier to drive with the stardard axles.

[Lee]

Originally Posted by Kopite

can anyone tell me whether they've tried the following on the X6/X6sq (with how they found it went too)...

25 degree castor blocks
inline axles

To be honest i didn't notice a massive difference going from 25 to 30 deg blocks, i think i only went to 30 because i was struggling at the euros. inline axles were something Tom and myself were talking about last summer, we both said we would try it but never did. I know one of the Belgian guys uses inline axles to good effect though

[Kopite]

I've only ran the 25's once, and took them off cos i thought they were a bit gay, but i do want to try them again, as my car wasn't set up properly then. I really can't remember which way on the castor does what (many differing opinions)

Also, can anyone explain why the inline axles make the steering more aggressive?

[stegger]

The 25° caster blocks are recommended in most cases.
• Use 30° of caster (optional #9593 caster blocks) if you need
increased steering entering corners and less steering exiting corners. It
will also be more stable when accelerating through fast bumpy track
conditions.
• Use 25° of caster (#9580 caster blocks) if you need less
amount of steering entering corners than the 30° blocks, but more
steering in the middle and exiting corners.
• Use 20° of caster (optional #9592 caster blocks) if you need

even less steering entering corners and more steering exiting corners. All out of my head

[Kopite]

Originally Posted by stegger

The 25° caster blocks are recommended in most cases.

• Use 30° of caster (optional #9593 caster blocks) if you need
increased steering entering corners and less steering exiting corners. It
will also be more stable when accelerating through fast bumpy track
conditions.
• Use 25° of caster (#9580 caster blocks) if you need less
amount of steering entering corners than the 30° blocks, but more
steering in the middle and exiting corners.
• Use 20° of caster (optional #9592 caster blocks) if you need

even less steering entering corners and more steering exiting corners. All out of my head

lol, you fibber, that's straight out of the b4 setup guide

[stegger]

Originally Posted by Kopite

lol, you fibber, that's straight out of the b4 setup guide

found me out !!!

[Lee]

Scousers will nick anything

[Mike Hudson]

Originally Posted by Kopite

can anyone explain why the inline axles make the steering more aggressive?

the trailing blocks are favoured on high grip tracks, the inline axles give a more aggesive feeling, steering entering and exiting corners is increased but straight line stability is reduced don't know how else you want it explaining? Not going to go into the math behind it I'll let the Xfactor boys do that

[Lee]

Originally Posted by Mike Hudson

Not going to go into the math behind it I'll let the Xfactor boys do that

I doubt even Simon Cowell knows

[Kopite]

yeah, i was kinda hoping for an explanation as to why inlines are more aggressive. just curious really

[Richard Lowe]

My guess is that with the trailing axles the whole car has to move left and right as the wheels turn, dulling initial turn-in. If anything technically I'd say the trailing axles are less aggressive than the neutral inline's.

Inlines are the future

[Kopite]

that's got to be worth a go!

[stegger]

Me again
Your front axle position affects how your car will steer. The
standard trailing axle is behind (fig. 1) the kingpin and makes for less
aggressive steering. The optional inline axle steering block lines up
with the kingpin and causes the steering to be more aggressive.

When should I change the steering blocks?

The trailing steering blocks (#9581, top of fig. 2) should be used
in most cases. The Team especially recommends the trailing blocks on
high-grip or “blue-groove”.
• Changing to the optional inline steering blocks (#9577, bottom
of fig. 2) will give the car an overall more aggressive steering feeling.
Steering entering and exiting the corners is increased, and straight line
stability is slightly reduced. You’ll also need optional inline axle

#9623.

[SHY]

This is how it works:

The trailing axles are behind the "real" center of the kinpin. And that will force the wheels to turn outwards (left to left, right to right), keeping them very tight & stable. Since they are "pushed against the steering rods". When checking toe-in (or out) you should always roll the car forward a little to see the "tru toe".

With inlines there's no stabilizing effect. It's wobbly wobbly...

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

But does it really steer more? Isn't it just quicker steering "reaction"?

[SHY]

Originally Posted by DMS Racing

Hi SHY, long time no speak....

We have a LIPO barce on its way for the X5 Sq, should be here any day now...

And yes we dos tock the full range of Schumacher tyres too, just kept supply you the required Red Bull!!

Cheers, Darren

ETA LiPo brace?

Pics of it?


Like this?

[super__dan]

Yeah me too boss???

[mark christopher]

any one got a good starting set up for the x6 square for an outdoor virgin?

[Lee]

Ellis' setup

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=200