Kyosho ZX6 4wd - Page 4

leeboy44 · #61 11-11-2014

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Originally Posted by Mr Eccleston

Have a look at LAW42 for an alloy servo arm. No real need for it as I've never had a problem with the kit plastic version.

Be interested to see how you get on with the esc at rear of motor, most would run it to the front. What surface are you racing on with the ZX6. I race on grass and was considering trying the esc to the rear, but being honest the car is so balanced with it to the front I really need to convince myself first.

Hi, thanks for the info on the servo horn,

i will be running on carpet, i had a hotbodies d413 last and had my ESC in the same please so i thought i would try it this way and save d-soldering the wires to re-solder new wires on

this coming sunday will be my first outing with the car and cant wait

any other tips? what roll bars do you keep?

thanks

Mr Eccleston · #62 11-11-2014

I had a D413 as well, but the ZX6 feels better to me.

Not raced it on carpet, just astro and grass. I ran kit setup with heaviest roll bar on front and the kit front on the rear.

Front springs I would try are Yellow or Orange, rears would probably be gold.

Car has loads of steering now so depending on track size and grip you may want to try staggers, worth having a set with you anyway.

leeboy44 · #63 11-11-2014

just ordered the set of roll bars,

ive also fitted gear diffs, ive not built the ball diffs,

bit of a p*ss take £50odd for a gear diff and it dont with the bearings etc

ive gone for 10k front and 7k rear,

before i had the d413 i had a yokomo and never run a roll bar on the front also used 10k 10k in the diffs and it drove like a dream, i thought this might not be far off the yoko?? some say to run 5k in the rear on gear diffs in the zx6 so i went in-between lol

Mr Eccleston · #64 11-11-2014

Be interested to see how you like the gear diffs, I've always used the ball diffs. Found that if built right they last for a long time and work really well.

I've always felt gear diffs were partially down to your driving style as well, they tend to suit an aggressive driver, they tend to be very direct, maybe that's where I've been going wrong!

leeboy44 · #65 11-11-2014

I've always felt gear diffs were partially down to your driving style as well, they tend to suit an aggressive driver, they tend to be very direct, maybe that's where I've been going wrong![/QUOTE]

yeah ive been known to be aggressive lol, i will post my set up sunday

RogerM · #66 12-11-2014

Definitely try the ESC in front of the motor, the ZX6 is not short of rear end grip and I've found the more I move the centre of mass forward the better the car has become!

leeboy44 · #67 12-11-2014

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Originally Posted by RogerM

Definitely try the ESC in front of the motor, the ZX6 is not short of rear end grip and I've found the more I move the centre of mass forward the better the car has become!

I do plan on it but time wise from me building it and work it was just easy for me to use this set up that come out the d413,

Next weekend I will have a go at the esc in front of the motor

Thanks for your reply

Neil Skull · #68 13-11-2014

Roger,
We have found we like the motor in rear position but with a differnent way of losing the rear end grip when on high grip tracks!
Have a look at recent set ups!!!!
See if you can see what we did?

http://www.kyoshoeurope.com/reports/...s-setup-sheet/

RogerM · #69 13-11-2014

Thanks for the link Neil, always good to see what people are doing. Elliot is running his in Saddle pack form I see.

People forget how effective a tuning aid rear inboard toe and wheelbase can be with the Kyosho cars

Neil Skull · #70 13-11-2014

Have a look at he Rear Anti Squat!!!! you have to Dremel the gearbox with that set up!!!!!

RogerM · #71 13-11-2014

Yes, saw the anti-squat ... run a fair bit myself

Reducing grip by moving the hinge pin closer to the outdrive, I'd normally raise the inner ball stud by a similar amount so as not to raise the rear roll centre too much at the same time then work from there.

Sometimes do the opposite with the RB6 in extreme low grip situations by putting a spacer under the gearbox, MM over-motor brace and between gearbox and tower, generates a surprising amount of extra forward drive

One of the great things about the Kyosho cars, so many adjustments that can be combined in so many permutations.

leeboy44 · #72 13-11-2014

After your replies I've found some time to move my speedo before Sunday, can't wait to see what it's like

Fozzy1989 · #73 14-11-2014

You will love it mate, I'm over the moon with the ZX6. Done a couple of meetings with it now, electrics in the same layout and bone stock set up as per manual and I'm soo pleased with the handling so far. Going to do another meeting before making changes but even then it would only be fine tuning I think.

Cheers
Chris

leeboy44 · #74 14-11-2014

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Originally Posted by Fozzy1989

You will love it mate, I'm over the moon with the ZX6. Done a couple of meetings with it now, electrics in the same layout and bone stock set up as per manual and I'm soo pleased with the handling so far. Going to do another meeting before making changes but even then it would only be fine tuning I think.

Cheers
Chris

after looking at boot's set up and seeing hes lifted the front and rear hinge pin holders up closer to the drive cups so i might try this soon, ive got nothing much on tonight so i might sand the gearbox where the wishbones with foul so its a easy tune up at the track when i go to try it

what shock oils are you using?

ive fitted gear diffs as thats what im used to so 10k front and 7k rear is what im going to try sunday

Fozzy1989 · #75 14-11-2014

I've gone 400/350 with the oils and feels perfect on what I would call a medium grip smooth indoor track. I'm going to pick up some gear diffs for when we go back outdoors with the astro. I'm quite a gentle driver so I feel for my driving the gear diffs make me push the buggy harder which I need on the high grip. I'll be sticking with balls indoors though, super smooth and just feel right :-)

Chris

RogerM · #76 15-11-2014

Raising the hinge pins is done to shave off some grip on very high grip surfaces, go the opposite way to generate a little extra.

Magnus F · #77 15-11-2014

Going to first practice with the car tomorrow on carpet
Gear diffs loaded up and ready:-)

leeboy44 · #78 16-11-2014

used mine today, wow what a car!!!!

using gear diffs, 10K F and 7k R, shocks 700F 450R using kit non drilled pistons

put the spacer's under the rear hinge pin holders as boots dose and the rude bits weight, orange front springs

first time out for me and i had TQ and 2 final wins, best ive ever done

Magnus F · #79 16-11-2014

I tested also my car today.
Stock setup except gear diffs with 10K front og 5K rear.
Car was working really good.
I had 350cst in front shocks and 250cst in rear shocks with stock piston. I had thickere oil in for the start but then the car was way to hard.
Probably going to 200cst in rear shocks for next time.

Neil Skull · #80 17-11-2014

Glad everyone is enjoying the car, especially as it works with so many different set ups for everyone's taste!