How to end up with an X5

DaveG28 · #1 12-05-2008

Hi all,

Which is the best donor car for the X5, XX4 or XXX4 and which editions etc?

Also, couple of quick questions:

1. Is it easy to still get Losi parts for the bits which stay original?
2. Am I right in thinking cells is 4+2?
3. Other than the xx4/xxx4 etc donor car and the conversion, what is needed to get the X5 working top notch?

Cheers all,

Dave

Cockerill · #2 12-05-2008

The best donor car is the XX4, what edition depends on what spec X5 you want, but I would say go for a XX4WE.

As far as I am aware every spare is still available that you will need.

Yup it is 4+2 cells.

I would get the shock tower strengtheners, a one-way (personal preference) and upgrade the standard xx4 front drive shafts to CVD's.

Hope this helps

bigred5765 · #3 12-05-2008

just to echo what tom said, xx4we was are choice of donor car,make sure you use the double pulley tensioner it's a big improvement on std single one, and we prefer to run the xx4 layshaft pulley. personnel pref on the last one,not had any real probs on losi bits.and the shock braces are worth there weight in gold imho,

DaveG28 · #4 12-05-2008

Can the XX4's be found anywhere to get as a donor car?

If not how much difference does it make going for the XXX4?

Reason I ask is I know where I can get a XXX4 for £160 in the states, but only seen an XX4 in one place, @£250ish!

Cockerill · #5 12-05-2008

Yeh a XXX4 can be used, but you will need the XXX4 - X5 conversion kit which is an extra £110 at DMS Racing. The XX4 is normally used as it has the same suspension, steering, shocks, diffs, etc as the X5. Whereas the XXX4 shares less parts with the X5.

You don't necessarily need a new kit to convert, and XX4's can usually be picked up quite cheap second hand. XX4's are quite hard to come by new as I *think* Losi has stopped making a kit, but still sell all the parts.

DaveG28 · #6 12-05-2008

Cheers guys, some stuff to mull over there, its the squared kit which is newer yeah?

Quite tempted if the parts are available still!

Darren Boyle · #7 12-05-2008

Definately agree with Tom there, the XX4 has so much more in commom with the X5 so the "XX4 conversion" (XFK012) is £110 less (as Tom said) at £129.95, add that to a reasonable condition used XX4 (£120/150) and you are looking at a resonable price, PLUS a lot of unused XX4 parts with a re-sale value for you to recover some money too.

Big E · #8 13-05-2008

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Originally Posted by bigred5765

just to echo what tom said, xx4we was are choice of donor car,make sure you use the double pulley tensioner it's a big improvement on std single one, and we prefer to run the xx4 layshaft pulley. personnel pref on the last one,not had any real probs on losi bits.and the shock braces are worth there weight in gold imho,

I just run the stock single tensioner, works fine. The most work is actually to bullet proof the losi parts such as the towers and front arms. X Factory will have our own strenghteners soon as well to help out.

I run a DDP rear pulley, xx4 drive gear and stock front pulley but I would advise the bearing roller on the drive pulley, that is the only thing you need to stop the belt skipping.

E.

super__dan · #9 13-05-2008

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bigred5765 · #10 13-05-2008

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Originally Posted by Big E

I just run the stock single tensioner, works fine. The most work is actually to bullet proof the losi parts such as the towers and front arms. X Factory will have our own strengtheners soon as well to help out.

I run a DDP rear pulley, xx4 drive gear and stock front pulley but I would advise the bearing roller on the drive pulley, that is the only thing you need to stop the belt skipping.

E.

does the DDP rear pulley help stop belt skip Ellis, and are they much better than the std ones.?? haven't tried them yet, we found that with the wider belt and the double pulley it stopped 90% of the belt skip under hard brakes.never had any probs under acceleration,we did try the roller but left it of when we ran the double pulley, the belt tensioner Dan posted is a god send ,

YoungChazz · #11 13-05-2008

The length of that post is something to behold. But God-like???

Big E · #12 13-05-2008

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Originally Posted by bigred5765

does the DDP rear pulley help stop belt skip Ellis, and are they much better than the std ones.?? haven't tried them yet, we found that with the wider belt and the double pulley it stopped 90% of the belt skip under hard brakes.never had any probs under acceleration,we did try the roller but left it of when we ran the double pulley, the belt tensioner Dan posted is a god send ,

Yeah they are better, they also run a little straighter and just last a lot longer.

SHY · #13 13-05-2008

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Originally Posted by Big E

I run a DDP rear pulley, xx4 drive gear and stock front pulley but I would advise the bearing roller on the drive pulley, that is the only thing you need to stop the belt skipping.

E.

If you then add the dual idler conversion, is that "too much"? Seems like the belt is VERY close to touching itself...

Btw. how about making an "E Speed" kit for that roller? I think people would appreaciate it! (Something that's "bolt on". Maybe with a template/guide as to where to mount it?)

Lee · #14 13-05-2008

What pulley is it that the belt skips on mostly, surely a bearing that nearly touches the belt whilst the belt is on the pulley would stop the belt from lifting and skipping. Im not sure how easy to do this is though, but it will add zero drag and stop belt skip