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Jorn's Euros 4WD car
Spy shots of Jorn's Euros 4wd car that Gerd has built:
Click images for bigger view. Source: https://www.facebook.com/infoRC.net/...63421683761908 Haven't seen his 2wd car, but I've been told it was running xray arms.
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Funny to see how much they have already injection moulded: Arms, gearbox, servo saver, front hubs... It looks good; I can't help getting distracted by those waffles next to it though!
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Read about this 4wd and the 2wd used to take second overall over on the Team Serpent blog.
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surango...
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Seriously, I mean they are simply remaking the same 410 V4 buggy all over again and slapping a Serpent sticker on it thinking no one would notice? Ya I get that Gerd is the original developer of this chassis, but he made it as a Durango employee right? Isn't there some sort of intellectual property that Durango maintains? So much for Billy Eastons SRX4 I guess?
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Make a search on sdx-4 and you'll find a chassis focus on Redrc on it. Similar to Durango of course. Not that strange really. Almost every shafts driven car look more or less the same these days.
Nice win by Jörn with it in the third leg of the Euros today. He owned Bruno in that one. Congrats to him for that we'll deserved win. Sorry that Cragg had such misfortune but Ae really need to step up their game. Modern 4wd cars are much more easy to work on. That diff could easily been put in the right way swiftly on any other car.
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Congratulations to Neumann on his win this weekend, he can certainly drive, he is one of the best in the world. That was great racing. However, the car he ran is still to me at its heart, a 410 (the shaft drive, similar aluminum bulkheads, the angled gear boxes and similar shock towers) its an evolution of what he ran for Durango (now shorty compatible, revised electronics layout). Gerd has designed a buggy that Neumann is obviously very comfortable with andshouldbe interesting to watch this season in EOS. The 410 vs SDX4 and YZ2 vs B6 si ilarities argument is quite true. I think AE borrowed heavily from Yokomo in desiging their new buggy. I think the days of the SRX4 however are numbered, why would Serpent continue to produce a competing kit to the (superior!?) SDX4? Could they afford to produce and support two different buggies in the same class? That's hard to fathom.
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Gerd will always make a familiar looking car wherever he works, he probably believes passionately that the design he works around is the best platform, quite rightly so as he has designed some cars that work well, I have been told the car we saw at the Euros was the basic car they wanted to use at the worlds but then it just wasn't ready.
For me the problem has nothing to do with Gerd,jorn or the new car,it will probably be very good. The problem was with serpent marketing,They should never released the srx4 as for those that bought it within a few weeks it was out of date as most of the works team decided not to use it at the worlds.....and those people I know who have run one it was for a very good reason! If your going to release the car you need to stand by it. The whole team including Jorn should have run the car being sold, the new car should have been tested and all R&D done out of sight after big meetings etc only being shown just before release. To me here in the uk the srx4 has been a disaster,and the new car will have to be really good to bring club and regional races back and ready to spend 300ish quid
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Found this from back in May
https://www.facebook.com/Neumann-Rac...8152691593749/
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I was going to resist posting but since some are being silly, I thought I would join in and be silly too with a different point of view
At the Euros this year, Serpent in 2wd TQed 3 out of 5 rounds. Jorn driving the forthcoming 2wd finished 2nd in the finals behind Neil Cragg arguably one of the best drivers in the world. In the 4wd event Jorn with his pre-production Serpent beat many talented drivers including 2 World Champions, many European champions, which were all there with their full Teams that had many more cars running round the track for feedback, set up work and so on. All by himself and his mechanic, with a car that had never been run on that chassis. It sort of makes one think, or certainly makes me think, either Jorn and Gerd are superhuman or the new SDX4 is super good.....think about it a little Now you guys can have opinions and of course its accepted and welcomed that everyone has opinions but let's keep to the facts rather than unfounded speculations and dwelling in the past. Some more facts: A Final 4wd no Schumacher no Team C no Durango (LOL at this one) no Losi no PR Racing no Kyosho no HB The other fact is Serpent have worked extremely hard to make good cars for the European market rather than settling for cars that are super good in the States.....nothing wrong with that at all and we should all be grateful....I am
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the track surface also played a major part in the results.
Jorn has had track time on that track before. The track is closer to the kinds of tracks in the states than in europe. This car, the "Serpango" is a car that has taken serpent parts and the basis of the Durango 410 to make a new car a platform that Jorn is happy and comfortable with. His results running the retail Serpent 4wd are nothing to shout about. Jorn is a quality driver, that much is clear just by watching him in any class, but what i think is a bone of contention is that the car he is winning with is not the car available to everyday racers, add to that the fact that the car that people have shelled out for is not particularly good on our tracks and seems to have been ditched by the manufacturer in favour of the new one |
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I agree that there are only so many option when designing a shaft drive car, so I won't go into the serpent/durango/copy argument.
BUT : I still think the worlds was a PR disaster for Serpent. What were they thinking ? I certainly would have felt cheated owning an SRX4. I would have respected the team a lot more if they had raced the SRX4 and finished 10 places lower. Didn't Billy Easton do that ? |
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Racers don't get enough support from the 'brands' they buy and its left mostly to local heroes to help the club racers out.
Here is a team, Serpent, who have just won the euros, and people must just be unhappy that it wasn't their team. Go Serpent! be proud
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Forums should have like and dislike buttons
As a driver and a distributor for Serpent in the UK and Ireland, I am here for anyone that requires any type of help
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Did any one catch JQ's blog? https://thequagraine.com/
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Whilst it's true the SRX4 in its original form was suited slightly better to low grip, you only have to look at the oOple Series results from this year to see that it's by no means a slouch on astro. It's different to the rest of the crowd, but it's a very quick car. Quote:
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Hello all , I do wonder how short some people s memories are , please Google the Serpent S500 , as designed by Gerd.
I like many watched the Billy Easton Serpent srx4 announcement at the Reedy race , and waited and waited for the kit release like others , whilst the decision to run a development car for the world's , I personally don't think did the brand any favours, but lets not forget Serpent weren't the only one running prototype cars Kyosho running the RZ6 and what is now the RB6.6 , associated running the B6 and as for X-ray it's one continuous update I have spoken to a guy who raced at the world's he said the surface was pretty alien to the astro surfaces we run on here in great Britain I have since bought the Serpent , if you look as mentioned before Billy Easton s final time beat Hupos time including fastest lap and was on par with Jorns lap times , = SRX4 more than capable Now I also think it's fair to say the B44 is getting long in the tooth but it didn't stop Cragg putting it 2nd on the grid last week at the euros. It's my belief that there's not a bad car / chassis out there , people are to easily swayed on what goes on at the very top level of our sport , I ran last winter a team c tm4 , it was great , but I let a few negative comments about the car get in my head , so sold it on ( it was mint ) the guy that bought has come 2nd in the EOE championship with the very car I sold him. I am going to give the Serpent the chance it truly deserves , and as I don't believe in giving cars away if they fall out of vogue it can sit along side my dex410 , which regularly gets an outing ,and beats all the people I normally beat and falls short of beating the ones I don't . I wonder if it might be me not the chassis that has the biggest impact on where I end up ? 😯 Good luck drivers and go racing on the sound of the tone |
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