Original Cat re-release - If most of us want it, it may come!

[DanB4]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

Id have a XLS, Procat and Bosscat.

One car not ont he list id have, the illusive TOPCAT!

Just concentrating on the epic 4WD kits for now, maybe 2WD in future if we're successful?

[i4n]

Al,

Loved those two at the time, can't justify the outlay for the comp. kits now though.

But if the Pro and Boss were re-released, well, I'd sell a Kidney to get them

[MOGGIE XL]

I think it's a great idea to re-release the old cars.I've been buying parts to restore my XL XLS and Top Cat for a few years but there hard to find these days.I hope it happens.

[Kopite]

I'm with Chris, the one car i'd take a shot in the mouth for is a TOPCAT

FIT!

[brian s]

there are two cat xls on ebay at the moment

[Si Coe]

I've thought about this, and realise now that the business about MMS stuff is probably why I'd prefer a Procat. The Procat was the first version that didn't really need MMS diffs and layshafts, though they were better. The XLS used to kill standard diffs even with the motors of the day.

A simple re-release won't cut it. Todays cells and motors, even the milder stuff are much more than the early Cats were made for. They simply won't survive. What is needed is what Tamiya have done with the Buggy Champ - its not just a re-re Rough Rider, its been subtly re-engineered to look identical to the original, but perform more in line with 21st Century standards.

And quite honestly I doubt Schumacher will want to devote the time and money needed to do this to a 20 year old race car........

[NeilD]

Originally Posted by Si Coe

I've thought about this, and realise now that the business about MMS stuff is probably why I'd prefer a Procat. The Procat was the first version that didn't really need MMS diffs and layshafts, though they were better. The XLS used to kill standard diffs even with the motors of the day.

A simple re-release won't cut it. Todays cells and motors, even the milder stuff are much more than the early Cats were made for. They simply won't survive. What is needed is what Tamiya have done with the Buggy Champ - its not just a re-re Rough Rider, its been subtly re-engineered to look identical to the original, but perform more in line with 21st Century standards.

And quite honestly I doubt Schumacher will want to devote the time and money needed to do this to a 20 year old race car........

You're right they won't do that, Tamiya are a much bigger company and can afford the added costs Schumacher can't.

[Chrislong]

Can't be that hard to do though, re engineer the diff cams to fit SX diffs, with wide gear for the belts and new layshaft, off it goes. Of the ballraced MMS steering was a big upgrade on the Procat, but the Bosscat steering was fine and should go straight on.

[NeilD]

Come on Chris it's Schumacher so it's never that straight forward!

[93works]

id dig an original swb,xl,xls and dont change a thing,i have heaps of old ni-cd packs that still have good punch,also motors & electronics. i reckon it spoils the look of the old cars with new electronics etc dont care how fast they go in comparison to new cars.

[MOGGIE XL]

I agree,just keep everything original.The first Cat needed wing wire and role bars bending and were harder to build but I think it was worth it.

[dangermouse]

I'd love to see them rerelease them.

I've got a pretty nice never run SWB, a few XLS's and a couple of Procat/bitsas.

I think if they were to be made they should come with an upgraded bosscat style transmission (original trannys were pretty crap) with slippers to handle more modern power, but otherwise keep them originalish.

Actually what I'd really like to see is a retro styled XLS based car with strong transmissions and modern suspension/tyres, but keep it looking original styled with the orig XLS shell. Something like what was done with this Hotshot:

http://tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model...=65482&sid=418

[DanB4]

Cat XLS seems to be the winner so far!

[NeilD]

I think Schumacher would want a lot more numbers than we've mustered here to even comsidering a re re.

[Funkymojo]

It'll be great if Schumacher would re re the CAT XLS. It's my favourite buggy all all time...

[ApexSpeed]

SWB. Yes.

If nothing else, re-pop the bodies and undertrays for the SWB. They are harder to find than hens teeth.

[niggs98]

id love to say yes and have it be the swb cat but to be honest it was the xls that really took off. perhaps a masami version could be done, i know the xls was the same but the name would sell loads .....only question is how much would he want for royalties lol

[BORMAC]

Damn it! Do we realy need to decide on just one? By far the best of the lot would be the Bosscat if you wanted to run a vintage schumacher as this was the last refinement on the original design and by far the most reliable if you consider the kind of power you want to lay down.
Aside from this the SWB car would possibly be the most desirable for the shelf as it was a handful to drive but also because its the car that started it all. Rereleasing the SWB car would be by far the coolest thing Schumacher could ever do as it would take the company back to its origins.
But for me it would by a tie between the XLS and PROCAT as they are both pre 1990 cars that did exceptionaly well back in the day. The XLS would be my pick of the two simply because of the chrome rims.....yeah Im a sucker for those chrome rims , what can I say...

[DanB4]

All votes in?

[gaza121]

"the car that started it all". Rereleasing the SWB car would be by far the coolest thing Schumacher could ever do as it would take the company back to its origins.
But for me it would by a tie between the XLS and PROCAT as they are both pre 1990 cars that did exceptionaly well back in the day. The XLS would be my pick of the two simply because of the chrome rims.....yeah Im a sucker for those chrome rims , what can I say...[/quote]

I know it off the debate a little but I thought the Kyosho Optima was "the car that started it all", When the Optima came out there wasnt much that could keep with it at my club, them the Cat XLS came out and wiped the fllor with the Optima!!