Serpent to close?

[HKP]

Originally Posted by Body Paint

Made perfect sense to me, in fact I was already thinking exactly the same before I read Dans post

I hope that we don't end up with another Chinese cheese wagon when we could have seen a Dutch barnstormer

i dunno.. there is plenty of Dutch cheese...

[mark christopher]

to make it clear, they are not going bust, not sellingto anyone else, simply moving production to asia, this has been an ongoing move, and the s400 and curent cars are already made there.

the future is bright the future is orange!!!!!

[vinny20]

Yeah baby yeah orange is better

[Lee]

Originally Posted by vinny20

Yeah baby yeah orange is better

than......?

[bigred5765]

in my case any other colour,
but i did hear red is faster and cheaper

[l-u-k-e]

LRP say "Blue is Better"

I still think orange is the best!

[HVAC25000]

Orange is better. At least in escs

[Moose]

Neumann was seen with Durango decals intead of serpent decals on the German championships.

[jimmy]

Strange!

[Chris Doughty]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Strange!

or should that be Strenge ??

[jimmy]

lol, NICE!

[Moose]

the pic
http://www.vita-racing.de/gallery/ma...2_itemId=16238

1/8 -> LRP car , 1/10 4WD durango, 2WD Asso, only wearing durango shirts

[SHY]

I know Serpent quite well from racing 1:8 TR since 1995. I know the founder Pieter Bervoets quite well, and I also visited the factory many years ago.

This rumour about Serpent going bankrupt started already many years ago, so most likely it's not any more valid now than before... of course it's hard to compete against Mugen and Kyosho, with low producton costs. Furthermore many drivers see Serpent as "Microsoft" and kinda hate them for some strange reason... At some point more or less everybody drove a Serpent, but then "rebels" started using PB, Picco, Mugen, Kyosho...

Pieter sold his company to Ronald and Michael. He also founded Virtual RC, which is run by his son. Himself he's retired. A shame really, he really did so much good for RC. And always had so many good points at EFRA AGMs!

As to moving production to Asia, this is something all manufacturers have to do, it's simply a matter of cost. And they can produce exactly the quality you ask them to. Actually rumours had it that they alrady moved it MANY years ago!

Btw. I really miss myTSN! That was oOple web #1... and now it's all gone, what a waste! It was really ahead of it's time!

[HVAC25000]

So, if Serpent isn't going bankrupt, where's the S500?

[SHY]

Since they are reorganizing the distribution I would assume it'll take some time... the S500 probably doesen't have very high priority. And with today's variety of cars it'd better be top notch quality... when they return to the OR scene (they have failed before) I'm sure they want to do it in style!

[Moose]

in style without Neumann and Strenge ?
i think the S500 will be released as a durango but i dont know if serpent has the copyright. we will see

[HVAC25000]

Originally Posted by Moose

in style without Neumann and Strenge ?
i think the S500 will be released as a durango but i dont know if serpent has the copyright. we will see

You think Serpent will rename it Durango just to trade on the name, or you mean Serpent will start a separate company, Durango, but I assume still mostly ran by Serpent?

[SHY]

What's going on? Is Strenge and Neumann no longer in colloboration with Serpent? I thought they hired Strenge?

Furthermore, what's the status on their coming 1:8 OR car?

I don't think you can talk about "copyright". That's for names, logos etc. I'm sure Dodge owns the name "Durango".

As to patent I don't think there's any patented solutions either. So anyone who wants can copy the chassis and start production tomorrow. 100% legally!

[HVAC25000]

P.S. I believe it's "trademark", not copyright or patent?

[SHY]

I'm no expert, but I believe it's something like this:

Patent = technical invention (physical). Either brand new or new combination of existing patents. Must be applied for in each country

Trademark = protected name

Copyright = more like rights to a book / printed text etc. Typical for publishing houses.

You also can have rights for patterns etc. It's similar to logos. I think software actually is closely related to this.

Anyway, I doubt that even Gerd Strenge has the exclusive rights for the name Durango. And I believe nobody has any patents as to the Durango chassis. So Aero or whoever can go ahead and produce a copy if they like