'Offical' Carbon Dave

[Chequered Flag Racing]

posted on FB

[Aaron w]

Looks the daddies

[Gazza]

Ok posted on Mardaves web site and its been deleted go figure
Any way dont bother buying it as the RC Circuit car Chassis (aka red Bull ) is far superior and is 1 lap better in a heat so save ya money


Below is Tony holding Pauls P2 (aka Red Bull Car )

[colin367]

loving all this tit for tat about chassis, it's doing more to convince me and i'm sure others to stay clear and buy a circuit car or a banger !. It wasn't long ago you guys were skipping a long hand in hand.

Funny to watch unfold though

[johnnyp]

Originally Posted by colin367

loving all this tit for tat about chassis, it's doing more to convince me and i'm sure others to stay clear and buy a circuit car or a banger !. It wasn't long ago you guys were skipping a long hand in hand.

Funny to watch unfold though

love it how very true
mine better than this one this is better than that
sounds like school kids too me

[chris_dono]

Originally Posted by johnnyp

love it how very true
mine better than this one this is better than that
sounds like school kids too me

*upturns pit box on floor*
"I is helping ya"

[dazw]

im glad i sold mine now,your all pushing the remaining few away for the sake of chassis thats not realy any faster than the old standard dave chassis
i have some ply in the garage?

[Gazza]

LOL well as most are aware or not Mr Mardave is trying to Monopolize the event with It must be Mardave this Mardave that. .

Soon you will only be able to spray your body with Mardave paint

The Chassis is a chassis as long as the wheel base and track is the same what differance does it make what the chassis is . . any way I designed a Better ground effect chassis and it works its that siimple beating the other chassis by a clear lap results on Rc circuit cars not one meeting but two

there is no hard ship or arguments any where its just up to you guys what you spend your money on

[dazw]

i dont think that there is enough results from enough good drivers,racing at the same meetings to determin weather any of these are faster than even the old dave chassis?
to me mardave racing has always been about driving,set up and tyres so it was cheap and a good learning curve,
if your free to make your own then you could spend a fortune,also cf axle damping and whatever else those in design could come up with.
maybe when things settle more people will come back to mardave,but this is the winter when numbers should be up so not the best time to confuse people with all this stuff thats going on at the min,i have raced in most class`s now and even i am put off mardave at the mo

[Paulnuneaton]

edit for a reason

[Aaron w]

The p2 chassis is just a wider version of the mardave ce chassis? Who came up with the front plate design? I also think Robins surname is spelt Schumacher.

[qatmix]

I'm a bit confused why you have an issue with Mardave.

Mardaves have always been a controlled 'Stock' class, the core of its racing was around a cheap, easy to maintain chassis with cheap, available parts. The beauty of the original design is that its still strong, cheap to maintain and fast and tunable.

Recently, the circuit side of Mardaves has become a larger concern, and the inevitable move to lipo and brushless is coming. Due to this, Chris has moved on and evolved the cars, bringing in the diff, and then making more subtle additions to enhance the handling. All still using as many of the std parts as possible.

The new Schumacher car looks impressive, but its starting with a blank sheet. They also have the benefit of being a larger company who are able to make big batches of the kits in China, so they can undercut Mardave who are a smaller operation and still get their parts made in smaller batches in the UK.

With 2 cars available, it will mean clubside shops will need 2 lots of spares, so may carry less of both.

In fact, once you muddy the stock class you would get the age old thing, People may think one is better at the local club (as its driven by the best driver, but nobody accepts they are not the best driver) so people will swap over, then a new competitor will come along and everyone will flock to that kit.. Essentially you will have an emulation of the TC racing scene, but on a smaller UK scene which will fizzle out as everyone might as well go and race TC's

Doomed I tell ya! your all doomed!!!!

[Paulnuneaton]

Moved to www.rccircuitcars.com

[Mr Eccleston]

There is also the other flip side, with one class if people don't like it you limit the numbers. However, if you open up to various manufacturers to a set of construction rules you suddenly open up the class to more racers, potentially increasing numbers.

Just a thought, not taking sides.

[Paulnuneaton]

Move to website

[qatmix]

But then if you open it up, you just invite the no holds barred concept of open racing, you just need someone to make a killer £300 kit and trounce everyone. If its open to more than one manufacturer it must be open to all.

You may as well run TC's

[Mr Eccleston]

It's no different to the 1/12th stock car section, anyone can build a car, just be prepared to sell it to anyone else for a capped price. I don't see any £300 stock cars, but totally agree that's not the way we would want to go. This form of racing should be low cost to start and run.

[Gazza]

Correct you start off by going to AGM with

1 chassis to be any material othen than Carbon fibre
( so carbon fibre is banned straight the way)

2 wheel base to be XXXmm by XXXmm and track to be XXXmm by XXXmm
This then allows all cars to be run Mardave- Schumacher -Hunter systems etc)

3 the whole kit not to cost more than £xx.xx

etc

[jaythewarrior]

Can i just say to those who are now being put off Mardaves that, the standaed G2 Class will never go away or be opened up to other types of cars or chassis unless it has been approved by mardave them selfs. this P2 thing is trying to get into a new class with the "Super Dave" class for modified racing. So guys dont worrie about the good old Daves they aint going no where. this P2 chassis should not even been discussed in this forum as its only for Mardave anyways. Good luck to Paul and Gazza with there chassis but it wont effect the good old standard Mardave class nor will it ever.

[colin367]

Cheers Jay, i must admit that having raced 26-27 years ago (stockcars) and now coming back to racing within the last year or so its so confusing !. There now seems so many classes,different rules at different clubs....i'm not surprised its not more popular than it should be. Lets face it, if someone looked online (as kids nowadays do) you would be put off by what you can and can't race - this thread included -.

I think the only way to get kids to decide on a particular style/form of racing would be to go to a local club and see what THEY are running as it may not be the NORM or whats being used at nationals !

I thought of doing a different class due to work commitments, i.e the mardave circuit.....i read the rules...i read on here whats good to use and whats not.....and gave up ! too much argueing even at the national on what you can and can't use/run.

I'll wait and see what happens in the future.

Paul/gazza I appreciate what your doing and i commend you for trying something new and i looks great......i don't want to come accross as a suporter of mardave at all but if its a mardave class or section on a forum like this why confuse matters !? think of it from a point of view from someone new who has never heard of mardave and wants to get involved in a class of rc, how would it help this person ?

I'm not doing this to cause an argument....i've got better things to occupy me. But as someone who wanted to participate in this class and has been put off.

Col